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Cologne 9 and 10 th of September 2008. Part-66 / Part-147 Standardisation Meeting. Approvals & Standardisation Directorate Standardisation Department. Part-66/147 Standardisation Meeting. Open & Welcome by Francesco Banal / François Janvier Approvals and Standardisation Director.

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part 66 147 standardisation meeting
Part-66/147 Standardisation Meeting

Open & Welcome

by

Francesco Banal / François Janvier

Approvals and Standardisation Director

rearview mirror
Rearview mirror
  • 4th EASA Standardisation Meeting on Part-66/-147.
  • This is a Standardisation meeting, not a Rulemaking one.
  • All EASA Member States have been inspected in accordance with the 736/2006
  • Total of 18 inspections covering Part-66/ Part-147 during 2007.
  • During 2008 a total of 12 inspections have been performed till present date.
  • This is “your” forum!
  • NAA Feedback Questionnaire
new basic regulation main changes
New Basic Regulation: Main Changes
  • New Basic Regulation, Regulation (EC) No 216/2008 of 20 of February 2008, has been published and entered into force on 8 April 2008.

Main Changes

  • Inclusion of:

- Pilots (Article 7, Article 21);

- Air Operations (Article 8, Article 22);

- Aircraft used by a third-country operator into, within or out of the Community (Article 9, Article 23)

- Oversight and enforcement (Article 10)

new basic regulation main changes1
New Basic Regulation: Main Changes
  • Introduction of Qualified entities (Article 13)

For allocation of a specific certification task to a qualified entity the Agency or the NAA concerned shall ensure compliance with the criteria of Annex V to Basic Regulation.

  • Changes in the Recognition of certificates (Article 11)

The Commission, on its own initiative or at the request of a Member State or of the Agency, can decide whether a certificate issued in accordance with Basic Regulation effectively complies with the Basic Regulation and its implementing rules. In case of non-compliance or ineffective compliance paragraph 1 of Article 11 ( Mutual recognition) shall cease to apply to the concerned certificate.

follow up of a supplementary report
Follow-up of a supplementary report

Infringement

procedure

3rd option

EU

Commission

Government

2nd option

Request of

clarifications

Supplementary

report

1st option

The 4th option!

De-recognition

of certificates

(new art. 11)

EASA

NAA

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agenda
Agenda

DAY 1 Tuesday 9.9.2008

  • 13.00 Venue and registration
  • 14.00 Opening & Welcome, General Introduction
  • 14.30 SINAPSE
  • 15.00 Review of Part-66 Standardisation issues
  • 16.30 Coffee Break
  • 17.00 Review of Part-66 Standardisation issues
  • 18.15 Update on Examination Credits
  • 18:30 Conclusions of the day
  • 19.00 End of day 1

20:00 Get together

agenda1
Agenda

DAY 2 Wednesday 10.9.2008

  • 9.00 Venue
  • 9.30 Upcoming NPAs regarding Part-66 and Part-147
  • 10.00 Review of Part-147 Standardisation issues
  • 11.00 Coffee Break
  • 11.30 Review of Part-147 Standardisation issues
  • 12.30 Feedback on open issues from previous meetings
  • 13.00 Conclusions
  • 13.30 End of meeting
standardisation meeting
Standardisation Meeting

EASA Standardisation Community

Presentation

of SINAPSE

by

Sascha Oliver Schott

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Why?

EASA standardisation activities should be performed in a transparent and efficient manner

EASA should facilitate the sharing of information and NAA experience in applying the common rules

One means: Standardisation Meetings like this one! And in between?

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so what is
So what is…

…SINAPSE?

A software developed and run by the EC,

free-of-charge and readily available,

accessible via the Internet with personal login,

with information posted by communitymembers

for the mutual exchange of information,

featuring i.e. a document library, discussion forum, surveys, calendar of events

automatic e-mail notification of changes.

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contents
Contents?

Links to latest regulations & amendments

Standardisation inspections procedures & bulletins

Standardisation training material

Annual standardisation programme

Calendar of standardisation events (e.g., Standardisation Meetings, Standardisation Inspector training courses)

List of qualified Standardisation Team Members

Standardisation Meeting Minutes & Agreed Practices

NAA Information Network

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and who
And who…

…should be member of the EASA Standardisation Community?

National Coordinators (and Focal Points)

Qualified Standardisation Team Members

Nominated NAA technical experts(Part-21, -M, -145, -66, -147)…

You!

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part 66 147 standardisation meeting1
Part-66/147 Standardisation Meeting

Inspection Results on

Part-66 and Part-147

by

Edmund Bohland

Continuing Airworthiness Standardisation Manager

2007 si results including 1st semester of 2008
2007 SI Results, including 1st Semester of 2008
  • Non-compliance findings classes (c), (d) and (f) by Part
2007 si results including 1st semester of 20081
2007 SI Results, including 1st Semester of 2008
  • Non-compliance findings class (d) by Part
supplementary reports
Supplementary Reports
  • Until the present date a total of 12 Supplementary Reports were issued, 6 during 2007 and 6 during 2008.
  • They were mainly linked to deviations in the timely implementation of agreed actions by the NAAs.
part 66 main findings
Part-66 Main Findings
  • Licence Conversion process not well defined in Member States (start date, end date, amount of licences to process; Conversion Reports criteria, type of limitations, etc)
  • Conversion Reports not in line with the requirements (missing elements of Conversion Report as per 66.B.305 and / or 66.B.310)
  • Limitations on Converted Part-66 Licences not in line with Part-66 requirements (Maximum Take Off Mass dependent, Company dependent, etc)
  • Missing examination credit report in relation to credit given against basic knowledge
  • Part 66 AML issued not in line with the requirements (Format of the licence, type ratings in Category A licences, limitations, etc)
part 147 main findings
Part-147 Main Findings
  • Basic knowledge examination standard not in line with Part-66 and Part-147 (splitting examination of modules, level of examination questions, number of examination questions, marking)
  • Personnel requirements: instructors and examiners qualifications, continuing training, acceptance by NAA.
  • Variability of Part 147 Type Training standards (approval of Type training covering only theoretical elements, practical elements of training not Part-147 approved, duration of type training courses not appropriately defined/controlled, access to the aircraft types not ensured).
part 66 standardisation meeting
Part-66 Standardisation Meeting

Introduction to

Agenda Items

by

Edmund Bohland

Continuing Airworthiness Standardisation Manager

standardisation meeting1
Standardisation Meeting
  • In order to reach some tangible results, this forum will have to focus on a limited selection of major current issues, either
    • raised by the Standardisation Teams in their on-going activities
    • Or proposed by the Member States in the preparation of this meeting
  • It was not possible to include in this forum all proposed items by Member States.
part 66 147 standardisation meeting2
Part-66/147 Standardisation Meeting
  • Belgium
  • Denmark
  • Greece
  • Iceland
  • Malta
  • Norway
  • The following countries communicated topics:
  • Poland
  • Serbia
  • Sweden
  • Switzerland
  • UK
issues in the day 1 09 09 2008 part 66
Issues in the Day 1 – 09/09/2008Part-66
  • 66.A.70(c), 66.B.30x Limitations on converted Part-66 licences Some limitations included in Part-66 licences during the conversion process are not in line with Part-66 requirements.
  • 66.B.100, Appendix 1 Module 10.7.Some MS are using this item of Module 10 as a tool to prevent mutual recognition of certificates and / or Part-66 licences.
  • 66.A.30, 66.B.100(a) The experience requirements as per 66.A.30 should be verified by the competent NAA before issuing the respective Part-66 licence. How it is defined, documented or recorded?
issues in the day 1 09 09 2008 part 66 contd
Issues in the Day 1 – 09/09/2008Part-66 (contd.)
  • 66.A.10 Application for Part 66 AML. It’s happening more and more that nationals from one MS apply for an AML to another MS: a common approach is then necessary
  • 66.B.120 Renewal of AML after its expiry date. The case of renewal of an expired AML is dealt with.
  • 66.A.45 (c) Type training courses approved by the Competent Authority. An uniform approach is needed when NAA are approving type rating courses
issues in the day 2 10 09 2008 part 147
Issues in the Day 2 – 10/09/2008Part-147
  • 147.A.300 (g) Approval of type rating training courses not on the complete aircraft. Reach a common understanding on how to deal with this particular training courses.
  • 147.A.300 Aircraft Type Training, approval of Difference Courses. Try to establish an agreed practice regarding the approval of difference courses.
  • 147.A.105 (f) (g) Personnel requirements:instructors and examiners qualification. Discuss how each CA is establishing the “officially recognised standard”. Clarify the use of Form 4.
  • 147.A.145 (a) Recognition of Certificates.Clarify that Certificates of Recognition shall be accepted without further evidence.
part 66 standardisation meeting1
Part-66 Standardisation Meeting

Agenda Items

by

Luis Pires

Gian Andrea Bandieri

Standardisation Team Leaders

part 66 issue 1 66 a 70 c 66 b 30x limitations on converted part 66 licences
Part-66 Issue 1:66.A.70(c), 66.B.30x Limitations on converted Part-66 licences .
  • According to 66.A.70(c), Part-66 licences based on the conversion of national qualifications shall contain, where necessary, limitations:
    • Of technical nature.
    • In relation to the scope of the pre-existing qualification.
  • This means that only technical limitations should be imposed and in those areas where the competent authority has found that the former qualification standard in the Member State did not meet the Part-66 qualification standard.
  • During the Standardisation Inspections it was found that some Member States impose limitations not in line with Part-66 requirements.
part 66 issue 1 66 a 70 c 66 b 30x limitations on converted part 66 licences1
Part-66 Issue 1:66.A.70(c), 66.B.30x Limitations on converted Part-66 licences .
  • Some examples are:
    • Limitations with relation to Maximum Take Off Mass (only aircraft below 5700 Kg). This limitation is not in line with Part-66. Basic Knowledge requirements are not MTOM dependent.
    • Limitation to a specific country or specific company. This kind of limitation is not of technical nature.
    • Some limitations are linked to the exercise of privileges, e.g. Airworthiness Reviews (M.A.707) and Certificate of Release to Service (145.A.50). This kind of limitation is not of technical nature.
part 66 issue 1 66 a 70 c 66 b 30x limitations on converted part 66 licences2
Part-66 Issue 1:66.A.70(c), 66.B.30x Limitations on converted Part-66 licences .
  • EASA RECOMMENDATION:
  • Review the limitations included in the conversion reports and make sure that they are not violating the requirements;
  • Review previously issued Part-66 licences where limitations imposed are not of technical nature;
part 66 issue 1 conclusions agreed practices common understanding clarifications
Part-66Issue 1 Conclusions(Agreed practices, Common understanding,Clarifications)
  • Common understanding reached:
    • Only limitations based on 5700 kg were more controversial
  • If not, other positions expressed:
part 66 issue 2 66 b 100 appendix 1 module 10 7
Part-66 Issue 2:66.B.100, Appendix 1 Module 10.7
  • In Part-66 Appendix I Module 10 item 10.7 requires knowledge examination on applicable National and International Requirements for several subjects.
  • It is also stated that this is a requirement if the respective subject is not superseded by EU requirements.
  • Some Member States are using this requirement to prevent mutual recognition of Part-66 licences or certificates issued by Part-147 approved organisations .
  • This practice is not acceptable and is not in line with the requirements of Basic Regulation (article 11 item 1.).
part 66 issue 2 66 b 100 appendix 1 module 10 71
Part-66 Issue 2:66.B.100, Appendix 1 Module 10.7
  • Furthermore, all Module 10.7 knowledge requirements are currently covered by EU requirements:

AMP – Covered by Part-M, EU-OPS and Part-145;

MMEL – Covered by EU-OPS

ADs – Covered by Part-21

SBs – Covered by Part-21 and Part-145 (Maintenance Data)

Modifications, Repairs – Covered by Part-21

Maintenance Documentation – Covered by Part-21, Part-145

Continuing Airworthiness – Covered by Part-21, Part-M

Test Flights – Covered by Part-21

ETOPS – Covered by EU-OPS

All Weather Operations – Covered by EU OPS

part 66 issue 2 conclusions agreed practices common understanding clarifications
Part-66Issue 2 Conclusions(Agreed practices, Common understanding,Clarifications)
  • Common understanding reached:
    • YES
  • If not, other positions expressed:
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Part-66 Issue 3:66.A.30(c) - Breakdown of tasks and documentation to be used to record the basic experience

  • Standardisation Inspections showed that records of basic experience are often insufficient to give a reasonable understanding of where, when and what maintenance constitutes the experience.
  • Some NAAs have adopted a Logbook trough a national AMC, although the use of Logbooks is not widely utilised therefore many information are missing
  • Sometimes the simple statement “X years maintenance experience completed” is accepted

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Part-66 Issue 3:66.A.30(c) - Breakdown of tasks and documentation to be used to record the basic experience

  • Currently there is only a recommendation in AMC 66.A.10 to record practical experience in a logbook.
  • The purpose is to gain sufficient experience in the environment of commercial maintenance as opposed to only the training school environment.
  • To that end it’s necessary to define a minimum of what is a “representative cross section of maintenance tasks”
  • ED 2007-18/R already includes a recommendation to use a Logbook to record continuous experience
  • NPA 2007-07 is making the Logbook one of the possible options to record Type practical training

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Part-66 Issue 3:66.A.30(c) - Breakdown of tasks and documentation to be used to record the basic experience

EASA recommendation:

  • Extend the use of the Logbook also to basic experience
  • The same detail as proposed by NPA 2007-07 may be adopted for basic experience
  • A minimum list of maintenance tasks should be defined (guidance could be found in ICAO Doc7192, Chapters 10-13)

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Part-66 Issue 3:66.A.30(c) - Breakdown of tasks and documentation to be used to record the basic experience

Comment from the floor:

  • Please report your national requirements, if any, for:
    • Defining the representative cross section of maintenance tasks
    • Recording the basic experience

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Part-66 Issue 3:66.A.30(c) -Breakdown of tasks and documentation to be used to record the basic experience

AP.66.10 - already exists

Maintenance experience should be written up in a manner that the reader has a reasonable understand of where, when and what maintenance constitutes the experience.

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Part-66 Issue 3:66.A.30(c) - Breakdown of tasks and documentation to be used to record the basic experience

  • Common understanding reached:
  • If not, other positions expressed:
coffee break
COFFEE BREAK

please be back in 30 minutes

part 66 issue 4 66 a 10 application for part 66 licence
Part-66Issue 4:66.A.10 Application for Part-66 licence.

Present your view on the following statements:

  • 66.A.10 establish that an application for an AML shall be made on EASA form 19 and in manner established by the competent authority and submitted thereto, where the competent authority shall be the authority designated by the Member State to whom a person applies;
  • There are situations where the applicants qualifies in one MS and goes to another MS only to have a Part-66 licence issued by this MS.
  • Only in the case of the amendment to an AML the rule indicates that the application shall be made to the competent authority that issued the AML.
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Part-66Issue 4:66.A.10 Application for Part-66 licence.

  • Examination of basic knowledge modules performed at a Part-147 organisation shall be accepted;
  • In case of any doubts or confusion, NAA should discuss their concerns and assist each other as per 66.B.25 “Mutual Exchange of Information”
  • In case of any suspicions regarding the training and / or the examinations obtained in other MS the MS to which the person is applying can use the provisions of article 10 item 1 of Basic Regulation.
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Part-66Issue 4:66.A.10 Application for Part-66 licence.

  • EASA RECOMMENDATION:
  • Training by an approved Part-147 (by MS or directly by EASA) shall be accepted;
  • Examination of basic knowledge modules completed with a Part-147 organisation shall also be accepted;
  • Examination of basic knowledge modules completed at a Competent Authority can only be used for licence application to that authority.
  • Assist to each other and exchange information as per article 11 of BR and 66.B.25;
  • As last resort use BR article 14(1) in case of a safety problem.
part 66 issue 4 conclusions agreed practices common understanding clarifications
Part-66Issue 4 Conclusions(Agreed practices, Common understanding,Clarifications)
  • Common understanding reached:
  • If not, other positions expressed:
part 66 issue 5 66 b 120 renewal of aml validity in case of expired licence
Part-66 Issue 5:66.B.120 – Renewal of AML validity in case of expired licence.
  • Clarification has been requested for this particular case, which is thought to be of general interest

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part 66 issue 5 66 b 120 renewal of aml validity in case of expired licence1
Part-66 Issue 5:66.B.120 – Renewal of AML validity in case of expired licence.

Clarification of the rule:

  • The qualification recognised through the Aircraft Maintenance Licence never expires.
  • A valid licence is needed to exercise the related privilege, namely to sign a CRS.
  • An expired licence can always be renewed, provided 66.B.120 is complied with.

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Part-66 Issue 5:66.B.120 – Renewal of AML validity in case of expired licence.

Clarification of the rule (cont.):

  • A CRS issued when the Licence is expired is not valid under both Part-66 and Part-145.
  • Such an occurrence shall activate an enforcement action (suspension, limitation or revocation) according to 66.B.500.

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Part-66 Issue 5:66.B.120 – Renewal of AML validity in case of expired licence.

EASA recommendation:

The Competent Authority should investigate whether CRS have been issued while the licence was expired.

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Part-66 Issue 5:66.B.120 – Renewal of AML validity in case of expired licence.

Comments from the floor:

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Part-66 Issue 5:66.B.120 – Renewal of AML validity in case of expired licence.

  • Common understanding reached:
  • If not, other positions expressed:

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Part-66 Issue 6:66.A.45(c) – Type training courses approved by the Competent Authority.

  • It has been detected that there is not a standardised approach towards the implementation of this provision

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Part-66 Issue 6:66.A.45(c) – Type training courses approved by the Competent Authority.

Clarification of the rule:

  • 66.A.45(c) allows the Competent Authority to directly approve type training courses.
  • Both the training and the examination standard shall anyway comply with Appendix III to Part-66.
  • According to art. 6 of IR 2042/2003 this provision should be considered as a “one-off” approval.

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Part-66 Issue 6:66.A.45(c) – Type training courses approved by the Competent Authority.

  • This type training is excluded from mutual recognition. However, this does not prevent approval of type training courses already approved by another CA.
  • The corresponding type rating can only be endorsed by the Competent Authority approving the course.
  • Once the type rating is endorsed on the AML, it is mutually recognised.

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Part-66 Issue 6:66.A.45(c) – Type training courses approved by the Competent Authority.

Comments from the floor:

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Part-66 Issue 6:66.A.45(c) – Type training courses approved by the Competent Authority.

  • Common understanding reached:
  • If not, other positions expressed:

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update on examination credit for qualifications obtained outside eu
Update on Examination Creditfor qualifications obtained outside EU

Update on Examination Credit

for qualifications obtained outside EU

by

Juan Anton

Continuing Airworthiness Rulemaking Manager

update on examination credit for qualifications obtained outside eu1
Update on Examination Creditfor qualifications obtained outside EU
  • A foreign (=outside EU) person can apply for Part-66 licences and for credits.
  • Foreign technical qualifications are also subject to examination credits.
  • The competent authority has the obligation to evaluate the foreign qualification upon request by the applicant.
  • However, the competent authority has to develop a procedure specifying how to perform such evaluation (request of specific certificates and attestations, material than can facilitate the evaluation, etc).

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part 66 147 standardisation meeting3
Part-66/147 Standardisation Meeting

Conclusions of Day 1

by

Edmund Bohland

Continuing Airworthiness Standardisation Manager

part 66 147 standardisation meeting4
Part-66/147 Standardisation Meeting

Get together

.. The map is on your table

See you at 20.00

agenda2
Agenda

DAY 2 Wednesday 10.9.2008

  • 9.00 Venue
  • 9.30 Upcoming NPAs regarding Part-66 and Part-147
  • 10.00 Review of Part-147 Standardisation issues
  • 11.00 Coffee Break
  • 11.30 Review of Part-147 Standardisation issues
  • 12.30 Feedback on open issues from previous meetings
  • 13.00 Conclusions
  • 13.30 End of meeting
part 66 147 standardisation meeting6
Part-66/147 Standardisation Meeting

Upcoming NPAs regarding

Part-66 and Part-147

by

Juan Anton

Continuing Airworthiness Rulemaking Manager

part 66 standardisation meeting2
Part-66 Standardisation Meeting

Agenda Items

(Part-147)

by

Luis Pires

Gian Andrea Bandieri

Standardisation Team Leaders

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Part-147 Issue 1:147.A.300 - Approval of type-rating training courses not on the complete aircraft.

  • During a SI the need for a clarification on this issue arose.
  • This splitting of type training is particularly done by helicopters manufacturers (Agusta and Eurocopter)

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Part-147 Issue 1:147.A.300 - Approval of type-rating training courses not on the complete aircraft.

  • Part-147 does not prevent to split type training courses
  • AMC 147.A.300 is giving clear guidance on the principle to be followed in these cases.
  • The splitting should be limited to:
    • airframe type training
    • powerplant type training
    • avionic systems type training

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Part-147 Issue 1:147.A.300 - Approval of type-rating training courses not on the complete aircraft.

  • A maintenance training organisation approved under Part-147 may be approved to conduct airframe type training only, powerplant type training only or avionics systems type training.
  • The interface of the engine/airframe systems should be addressed by either airframe or powerplant type training.
  • The practical element should reflect the syllabus, including the understanding of interfaces

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Part-147 Issue 1:147.A.300 - Approval of type-rating training courses not on the complete aircraft.

Comments from the floor:

  • ..

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part 147 issue 1 conclusions agreed practices common understanding c larifications
Part-147Issue 1 Conclusions(Agreed practices, Common understanding, clarifications)
  • Common understanding reached:
  • If not, other positions expressed:

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Part-147 Issue 2:147.A.300 Aircraft Type Training: Approval of Difference Courses.

  • During Standardisation Inspections it was found different approach to the approval of type training “differences courses”.
  • EASA has been requested to clarify the issue, namely regarding the need for a Part-147 to have both types included in the approval certificate before conducting “differences courses”.
  • Normally Differences Course are conducted ( and accepted) when two different aircraft types are close enough and an individual is holding already a rating in one of them and only need a differences course to cover the other one.
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Part-147 Issue 2:147.A.300 Aircraft Type Training: Approval of Difference Courses.

Legal Basis:

  • The basis for type training is the need for rating endorsement. According 66.A.45 (c) ratings shall be granted following satisfactory completion of the relevant aircraft type training. This means that only relevant type training exists from the regulation point of view.
  • According to 147.A.300 a maintenance training organisation shall be approved to carry out Part-66 aircraft type training subject to compliance with the standard specified in 66.A.45.
  • The type training standard included in Appendix III always refers to the type in its entirety. In particular item 2.1 – Theoretical Element states “ As a minimum the elements in the Syllabus below that are specific to the aircraft type must be covered…..”. Only the complete type training exists.
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Part-147 Issue 2:147.A.300 Aircraft Type Training: Approval of Difference Courses.

  • Several Member States include the Differences Course in the scope of the approval and consequently allowing the possibility for the respective Certificate of Recognition.
  • This practice is acceptable when the differences course is delivered by approved organisations with both aircraft type training included in the scope.
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Part-147 Issue 2:147.A.300 Aircraft Type Training: Approval of Difference Courses.

  • Type Course A:
  • Type Course B:
  • Let’s say that a Part-66 licence holder has already endorsed Type A and he wants to add Type B. According to the regulation only Type B training course can be approved.
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Part-147 Issue 2:147.A.300 Aircraft Type Training: Approval of Difference Courses.

  • Following this practice, which can be seen as an alternative means of compliance, what happens is the following:

Type A (already endorsed)

+ Differences Course

  • From the formal point of view it shall be:

Type B

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Part-147 Issue 2:147.A.300 Aircraft Type Training: Approval of Difference Courses.

  • To use the privilege of this means of compliance both type training courses must be approved and included in the scope of Part-147.
  • The differences course should also be approved otherwise, there is no control on the content of the imparted “difference course”.
  • It also should be noted that type ratings referred here are the ones listed in the latest Appendix 1 to Part-66 AMC (ED Decision 2008/003/R)
part 147 issue 2 conclusions agreed practices common understanding c larifications
Part-147Issue 2 Conclusions(Agreed practices, Common understanding, clarifications)
  • Common understanding reached:
  • If not, other positions expressed:

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coffee break1
COFFEE BREAK

please be back in 30 minutes

part 147 issue 3 147 a 105 f g personnel requirements instructors and examiners qualifications
Part-147Issue 3:147.A.105 (f) (g) Personnel requirements: instructors and examiners qualifications.
  • As of today the use of form 4 is questionable, although GM to 147.B.115 item 4. clearly indicates the use of form 4 for examiners.
  • In any case the knowledge examiners and practical assessors shall be specified in MTOE for the acceptance of such staff by CA (147.A.105 (g)).

NOTE: Reference NPA 2007/07 recommends the use of form 4 for assessors as well

part 147 issue 3 147 a 105 f g personnel requirements instructors and examiners qualifications1
Part-147Issue 3:147.A.105 (f) (g) Personnel requirements: instructors and examiners qualifications.
  • 147.A.105 (f) states that the experience and qualifications of instructors, knowledge examiners and practical assessors shall be established as an officially recognised standard.

NOTE: Opinion 2006/04 proposes the changing of wording from

“…as an officially recognised standard”

to

“established in accordance with criteria published by the competent authority”

part 147 issue 3 147 a 105 f g personnel requirements instructors and examiners qualifications2
Part-147Issue 3:147.A.105 (f) (g) Personnel requirements: instructors and examiners qualifications.
  • Open question:

How each CA is establishing the criteria for the experience and qualifications of instructors, knowledge examiners and practical assessors?.

part 147 issue 3 conclusions agreed practices common understanding c larifications
Part-147Issue 3 Conclusions(Agreed practices, Common understanding, clarifications)
  • Common understanding reached:
  • If not, other positions expressed:
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Part-147Issue 4:147.A.145 (a) – Recognition of Certificates

  • Cases have been reported of some NAA not accepting Certificate of Recognition issued by Part-147 approved Maintenance Training Organisation.
  • It seems that this is a quite common problem.

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Part-147Issue 4:147.A.145 (a) – Recognition of Certificates

  • Art. 11 of Basic Regulation 216/2008 states:

“Member States shall, without further technical requirements or evaluation, recognise certificates issued in accordance with this Regulation.”

  • Certificates of Recognition issued by a Part-147 approved Organisation fall in this provision.

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Part-147Issue 4:147.A.145 (a) – Recognition of Certificates

Comments from the floor:

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part 147 issue 4 conclusions agreed practices common understanding c larifications
Part-147Issue 4 Conclusions(Agreed practices, Common understanding, clarifications)
  • Common understanding reached:
  • If not, other positions expressed:
part 66 147 standardisation meeting7
Part-66/147 Standardisation Meeting

Feedback on Open Issues

from the last Standardisation Meeting

(Refer to minutes of June 2007 meeting)

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Part-66/147 Standardisation Meeting

Item 3.1 - 66.B.40x Examination Credits

Already clarified during yesterday Part-66 issues.

Item 3.3 – Splitting of Basic Examination

Clarification was provided directly in the minutes (item 3.3.3). Splitting is not possible under the current Part-66 requirements.

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Part-66/147 Standardisation Meeting

Item 3.5 – Group ratings

The discussion was focused on the definition of Complex Aircraft. This wording was eliminated in the NPA 2007-07.

conclusions
Conclusions
  • Good attendance :
    • 29 countries: (23 EU+ 3 EEA + 3 non-EU JAA)
    • Approximately 50 attendees from NAAs
    • Rulemaking and Approvals represented
  • Major current issues for Part-66 were reviewed
  • A lot of profitable discussions
  • This is a build-up process in a difficult field.
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Conclusions
  • Minutes will be issued within a few weeks to be agreed by all participants
    • fine tuning via email
  • Other standardisation meetings will be held periodically, for instance :
    • a Part-M / Part-145 Standardisation meeting will be held in the December 2008
    • A Part-21 Subpart G (Production) Standardisation Meeting will be held in November 2008
the end
The End

Thank you

for your attention