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Summary of Objective 3: “Generation ITER” Presented by S á ndor Zoletnik On behalf of STAC group

Summary of Objective 3: “Generation ITER” Presented by S á ndor Zoletnik On behalf of STAC group S. Zoletnik, P. Lalousis, F. Zonca. S. Zoletnik. Associations meeting Garching, 13-14 April, 2011. Page 2. Global overview. Aim of objective 3 :

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Summary of Objective 3: “Generation ITER” Presented by S á ndor Zoletnik On behalf of STAC group

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  1. Summary of Objective 3: “Generation ITER” Presented by Sándor Zoletnik On behalf of STAC group S. Zoletnik, P. Lalousis, F. Zonca

  2. S. Zoletnik Associations meeting Garching, 13-14 April, 2011 Page 2. Global overview • Aim of objective 3: • Provide manpower for operation of ITER and satellites. • Categories and total responses: • ITER operators (256) • ITER analyst (395) • Three categories were named for training: • Ph.D. students (1211) • Masters (1449) • Engineers (79)

  3. S. Zoletnik Associations meeting Garching, 13-14 April, 2011 Page 3. Who is an „Operator”? Distribution by Association for „Operators” TOTAL: 256 Clear inconsistency in the tables for interpretation of „Operator” Template suggested: high-level operators (JET session leaders, diagnostic coordinators) Possible alternative understanding: People who have appropriate knowledge and experience to operate a fusion device or a subsystem (heating, fueling, diagnostics, CODAC, TBM, …)

  4. S. Zoletnik Associations meeting Garching, 13-14 April, 2011 Page 4. Analyst Distribution by Association for „Analyst” TOTAL: 395 • Usually one number is presented which is a mixture of experimentalists and physicists • Would need to have more categories: • theorists, code developers/operators, experimentalists (diagnostician)

  5. S. Zoletnik Associations meeting Garching, 13-14 April, 2011 Page 5. How many operators and exp. analysts are needed? • Two ITER operator categories: • High level: session leaders + diagnostic coordinators • (presently on JET: 30-30 + trainees) • ITER  60/2 = 30 EU Staff • Low level: heating, fueling, diagnostic, TBM, … • ITER is expected to have 200 scientist and engineer operators on its own (DDR) • The basic technology might absorb these: magnets, vacuum, • CODAC, energy, fueling, heating (0 EU) • Who operates/analyses the diagnostic systems? • (40x4: 160 people 80 EU) • High and low level for other experiments: • Operation of other experiments • (3 large + 5 smaller devices: 3x80 + 5x40 = 440 EU) • Participation in non-EU experiments: JT-60SA, KSTAR, …: 30 EU • Total: 580 EU exp. analysts + operators (2/3 for domestic experiments) • Total proposed Operators+Analysts: 651 • Even if 100 is theorist just the newly trained staff would be enough

  6. S. Zoletnik Associations meeting Garching, 13-14 April, 2011 Page 6. Ph.D. students Distribution by Association for „Ph.D. student” TOTAL: 1211 • Considerable differences between Associations • Needed new research staff: 2000 researchers/40 years active working time • 50 retirements/year  500 need to be replaced in 10 years • Global number is enough but unclear how many stay in fusion

  7. S. Zoletnik Associations meeting Garching, 13-14 April, 2011 Page 7. Masters+Engineers Only a few answers separated masters and engineers: handling them together Distribution by Association for „Masters + Engineers” TOTAL: 1528 Number of trainee engineers is unclear As ITER construction will run up to 2025 considerable engineering resources will be needed.

  8. S. Zoletnik Associations meeting Garching, 13-14 April, 2011 Page 8. Training courses, schools Some Associations indicated training courses. A quick assessment of the places gives ~200/year  can provide summer training for all students. Europe-wide organisations exist for fusion training: FUSENET, Erasmus Mundus  Important especially for smaller countries

  9. S. Zoletnik Associations meeting Garching, 13-14 April, 2011 Page 9. The role of New Member States Associations from New Member States (25% of EU population) proposed 6-8% of Operator and Analyst trainees (90% is from Czech and Hungary). Several Associations did not respond or proposed very little For Ph.D. and Master students the situation is more balanced among the NMSs but the % in the EU programme is similar. Western labs are successful to attract eastern students  there are young people available Would need to set-up some parenting scheme for groups in NMSs

  10. S. Zoletnik Associations meeting Garching, 13-14 April, 2011 Page 10. Summary • The global numbers are in the right range • Training possibilities for engineers is unclear (GOT is very helpful) • Do we have the engineers for ITER construction? • Operator-analyst categorization is unclear, a better list of categories might be: • high-level operator • exp. analyst/operator • theorist • code developer • code operator • New Member States offer considerable manpower resource, it must be used in an organized way • A good set of experiments must be present in the EU to provide trained staff • The EU must make use of joint experiments with ITER partners: this also needs some staff

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