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Redefining the Associate Degree

Redefining the Associate Degree. Mark Wade Lieu, Ohlone College Greg Granderson, Santa Rosa Junior College Paul Setziol, DeAnza College Shaaron Vogel, Butte College. Degrees based on IGETC and CSU-GE. Title 5 § 55806

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Redefining the Associate Degree

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  1. Redefining the Associate Degree Mark Wade Lieu, Ohlone College Greg Granderson, Santa Rosa Junior College Paul Setziol, DeAnza College Shaaron Vogel, Butte College

  2. Degrees based on IGETC and CSU-GE Title 5 § 55806 • Minimum Requirements for the Associate Degree. Each associate in arts or associate in science degree must include a major of at least 18 semester units or 27 quarter units of study in a single discipline or related disciplines.

  3. Degrees based on IGETC and CSU-GE Curriculum Handbook • Associate degree majors are required to be at least 18 semester units or 27 quarter units of coursework in a single discipline or related disciplines, as listed in the Taxonomy of Programs. However, for degrees intended to provide transfer students with lower-division general education, a distribution of general education coursework according to university requirements may be considered to satisfy this requirement.

  4. Degrees based on IGETC and CSU-GE Legal Advisory 05-05 • This requirement disallows "majors" with no discernible focus or majors constructed of loosely structured items of interest selected individually by students. Districts should ensure that this requirement is observed and that a clear major is described in connection with each associate degree offered.

  5. Degrees based on IGETC and CSU-GE • Other Issues • Degrees based on local General Education • Degrees based on IGETC/CSU-GEPLUS an area of emphasis • Use of the term “transfer” in degree titles

  6. Degrees based on IGETC and CSU-GE • Resolutions • Support degrees based on IGETC and CSU-GE • Oppose degrees based on IGETC and CSU-GE

  7. Degrees based on IGETC and CSU-GE Survey Results • 36 responses • 23 - IGETC • 25 - CSU GE Breadth • 14 - Locally determined GE • 07 - Other

  8. Degrees based on IGETC and CSU-GE Support for such degrees • 24 - Allow any type of GE pattern • 05 - IGETC/CSU GE Breadth only • 05 - Oppose degrees based on GE pattern

  9. Minimum Grade in Courses in a Major • Currently, only require a C average • Resolution to support change to minimum grade of C in courses comprising the area of emphasis for a degree or a certificate • General support

  10. Minimum Grade in Courses in a Major The Wrinkle • For degrees based on IGETC or CSU-GE, what would constitute the area of emphasis? • The whole pattern vs. 18 units

  11. Minimum Grade in Courses in a Major If 18 units, which 18 units? • Golden 4 – already require a C • Area A: Communication (3 units – CSU only) • Area A: English Composition (3 units) • Area A: Critical Thinking (3 units) • Area B4: Mathematics (3 to 5 units) • 4-6 units still to be decided

  12. What’s in a name? • Associate of Arts • Associate of Science

  13. What’s in a name? • How do you define an associate of arts (AA)? • How do you define an associate of science (AS)?

  14. What’s in a name? The Argument for Consistency • Clarity for students • Clarity for the public • A single degree title

  15. What’s in a name? The Flipside • CSU and UC are not consistent • Local traditions and values

  16. What’s in a name? Vocational Degrees • A new degree title? • The Associate in Applied Science (AAS) • Nationally, has lower requirements to fulfill general education • During math/English discussion, it is clear the senates do not support this

  17. What’s in a name? Survey Results • 36 responses • 31 offer both AA and AS • 03 offer a single associate degree • 16 have identical requirements for the AA and AS

  18. What’s in a name? Differentiating the AA and AS • 21 have a clear distinction • AS has additional requirements for science • AS focuses on math/science/engineering • AS is granted for vocational degrees • AA is for liberal arts and humanities

  19. What’s in a name? Support for statewide definition of AA/AS • 29 believe standardization would be beneficial to students and communication with external groups • 27 want the ASCCC to pursue a standardization in usage

  20. What’s in a name? • Resolutions • One unified associate degree title (no more AA vs. AS) • Clarify the distinction between an AA and AS on a statewide level • Create a third associate degree specifically for vocational areas

  21. Redefining the Associate Degree Thank You If you have further questions, you can contact Mark Wade Lieu at mwlieu@gmail.com

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