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GUCS News. M.Timmins 12 th CATIA forum 20/09/2012. Outline. - GUCS reminder - News from the SMT workshop - 29 th – 30 th of August. GUCS reminder. Local correspondents: map can be found on the GUCS website: here. Their role: Participate in monthly meetings

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Gucs news


M.Timmins 12th CATIA forum 20/09/2012

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- GUCS reminder

- News from the SMT workshop - 29th – 30th of August

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GUCS reminder

Local correspondents: map can be found on the GUCS website: here

  • Their role:

  • Participate in monthly meetings

  • Vehicle information upstream and downstream

  • Be in close contact with GUCS members

  • Fill-in knowledge base

  • Give first line support

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GUCS reminder

Please send e-mail requests ( when you want:

1 - help,

2 - report bugs

3 - Improvement requests

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News from the SMT workshop - 29th – 30th of August

  • Why did EN/MME organise a SMT workshop ?

    • To find solutions to the difficulties we have in using and managing our data in Smarteam.

  • With who ?

  • External:

    • Dassault Israel

    • Helbling

  • Internal:

    • Working group members (GUCS – PLMWG)

    • EN/MME management

    • CAD support

    • CAEC

    • IT representatives

    • EN/MME and PH Key users

  • Objective ?

    • See next slide (F. Bertinelli)

Objectives and questions
Objectives and questions

  • present and discuss CERN user environment, needs and challenges on SmarTeam data management;

  • critically evaluate these needs wrt Industry best practice;

  • consider short, medium and long – term views, future of Catia/Smarteam;

  • can SmarTeam (DS) Israel contribute and how? what costs? What framework? Current and possible role of Helbling?

  • How to improve SmarTeam support to CERN from Dassault? How to increase on-site SmarTeam support presence, at least in an initial period?

  • Next steps? (results-oriented or resource-based approaches?)

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  • → After the 2 days workshop we agreed both CERN and Helbling/Dassault Israel to work together unless their commercial proposal is above our means.

  • Technical matters:

  • → continue for the moment with existing SmarTeam and evolve our configuration: no dramatic changes of version or software recommended (specifically w.r.t. to ENOVIA v6, PSI practices, or for more standard configurations…). This is important and reassuring for CERN, in the short-term. This statement can be modified if coincident with EDMS change, in the long-term.

  • →Original problem: CERN lives with two PLMs (EDMS and SmarTeam):

    • Focus on only one (now or later?), or …

    • Solidly synchronise them (for the moment …)

  • → Recommend more emphasis on “item” as opposed to “document”

  • → Recommend to implement short-term actions even when below 100% optimal, and then progress in time (at CERN we risk being too perfectionist, e.g. PLM approach)

  • → Next steps…:

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Next steps:

We are waiting for a commercial proposal from Helbling and Dassault Israel for solving 7 points identified during our discussions.

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7 points

  • Check-in policy (overwrite previous)

    • Always overwrite is OK, but its urgent to synchronise our 2 systems.

  • Presentation of data, User Interface

    • Move information to the item

    • Use color codes for better understanding

  • Project structure (folder)

    • No need to go to folders rather than projects (no added value)

    • Improve the add to project interface when saving a new document.

  • Error messages

    • Investigate message which are useless and switch them off.

  • BOM management (views, versioning)

    • First better understanding of our used cases, develop a tool able to manage different BOM views for a same item.

  • Access to SmarTeam data for casual CERN (or external) users

    • The SmarTeam web interface is too complex for casual users, also DS Israel have developed their own read only web interface (SmartView). Can it be compared with CDN?”

  • Data exchange with external users

    • Does the data exchange tool developed at CERN full-fill our needs. To be evaluated along with other solutions.

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For when ?

In 2 years ?


No longer acceptable. We want to achieve the first results within a few months (3-4).

All comments are welcome. Now or later

Thank you for your attention !!