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Democracy and its Discontents. Modern Readings in Theory 2. “A certain persuasion resided on his lips, such was his magic. And he alone of speakers could leave behind a sting in his listeners.” (Eupolis Demes fr. 102 PCG , on Pericles’ rhetoric). Agenda. Advisor or “Tyrant”?

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democracy and its discontents

Democracy and its Discontents

Modern Readings in Theory 2

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“A certain persuasion resided on his lips, such was his magic. And he alone of speakers could leave behind a sting in his listeners.” (Eupolis Demes fr. 102 PCG, on Pericles’ rhetoric)

agenda
Agenda
  • Advisor or “Tyrant”?
    • The Pericles’ Debate continued…
  • Democracy and its Discontents
    • Introduction to Issues, Texts
  • Three Thinkers
    • Michels, Weber, Finley
  • Discussion-Debate
    • Which Model Pericles?

Theory Readings 2

advisor or tyrant
Advisor or “Tyrant”?

The Pericles’ Debate continued…

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Democracy and its Discontents

Introduction to Issues, Texts

democracy and its discontents2
“Democracy and its Discontents”
  • Sophists
  • “New Politicians”
  • Stasis
  • Recovery

Theory Readings 2

three thinkers
Three Thinkers

Michels, Weber, Finley

michels iron law
Michels’ “Iron Law”

“… every organ of the collectivity … creates for itself, as soon as it becomes consolidated, interests peculiar to itself” (353)

“… the men who lead and nourish [the movement] end by undergoing a gradual detachment from the masses …” (355)

Michels, Robert. Political Parties: A Sociological Study of the Oligarchical Tendencies of Modern Democracy. Translated by Eden and Cedar Paul. New York: Free Press, 1962. Print.

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. . . and Athenian democracy?

(Plus Ober’s critique)

weber legitimate domination
Weber: “Legitimate Domination”
  • Legal authority (bureaucratic)
  • Traditional authority (theocratic)
  • Charismatic authority (democratic?)

“Resting on devotion to … an individual person, and … patterns or order revealed/ordained by [him/her].” (215)

Weber, Max. Economy and Society: An Outline of Interpretive Sociology. Trans. Ephraim Fischoff et al. 2 vols. Berkeley: University of California Press, 1978. Print.

Theory Readings 2

charisma democratized how
Charisma Democratized — How?
  • Authoritarian legitimation
    • charisma => legitimacy => recognition
  • Democratic legitimation
    • charisma => recognition => legitimacy

(Weber EcSoc 266 ff.)

Theory Readings 2

plebiscitary democracy
"Plebiscitary Democracy”

“. . . a variant of charismatic authority, which hides behind a legitimacy that is formally derived from the will of the governed” (268).

  • cf., . . .
    • “demagogues”
    • prostatai tou dēmou

Theory Readings 2

finley on charismatic model
Finley on Charismatic Model
  • Athens atypical.
    • Weberian typology inadequate.
  • Demagogues rare.
  • Structure unstable.
  • Popular legitimation contradicted. . .
    • by elitist model.

Theory Readings 2

discussion debate
Discussion-Debate

Which Model Pericles?

who gets pericles best
Who Gets Pericles Best. . .
  • Michels?
  • Weber?
  • Finley?

Theory Readings 2