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Talkin ’ Sex: Chicanas and Mexicanas. Theorize about Silences and Sexual Pleasures Patricia Zavella. COMO AGUA PARA CHOCOLATE (Like water for chocolate ) (1989) LAURA ESQUIVEL. BEFORE WE START…. … I WOULD LIKE YOU TO THINK ABOUT THE ARTICLE WE READ TITLED,

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talkin sex chicanas and mexicanas

Talkin’ Sex: Chicanas and Mexicanas

Theorize about Silences and Sexual Pleasures

Patricia Zavella

COMO AGUA PARA CHOCOLATE

(Like water for chocolate) (1989)

LAURA ESQUIVEL

before we start
BEFORE WE START…
  • … I WOULD LIKE YOU TO THINK ABOUT THE ARTICLE WE READ TITLED,
  • “TALKIN’ SEX: CHICANAS AND MEXICANAS”
  • AND START TO MAKE CONNECTIONS BETWEEN THIS ARTICLE AND THE MOVIE,
  • “LIKE WATER FOR CHOCOLATE”
  • FOCUSING ON THE IDEAS ARE REPRESENTED BY THE CHARACTERS IN THE MOVIE .
the project interviews 1983
THE PROJECT / interviews (1983)
  • 17 women: 6 born in Mexico/11 Chicanas
  • Meanings of silence and pleasure
  • Tension in taking about sex
  • Contradictions: acquiescence/ contestation
  • Language used and body language
project 2
PROJECT (2)
  • Feminists critiqued the Mexican culture:
      • Virgin-whore (Guadalupe vs. Melinche)
      • Repressing women’s sexual desires
      • Catholic Church role (marriage)
      • Practices to control women’s bodies (clothing)

By whom? And how?

project 3
PROJECT (3)
  • Women breaking the silence

Consequences? “escándalo” (scandal)

  • Chicana lesbian theorists and creative writers

(resistance to silencing)

  • Metaphors: “juego and fuego” (play and fire)
  • Meanings of silence and pleasures
history of sexuality and marital relations
History of sexuality and marital relations
  • First half of the 20th C: taboo topics
  • 1930s and 1940s:

- The notions of virile macho men and self-sacrificing

women were constructed in popular culture.

- Female chastity prior to marriage

  • Ritual ‘Robbing’ (kidnapping)

-

history 2
History (2)
  • 1950s: - Urbanization

- Feminization of labor force

- Increasing migration to USA

- Expansion of popular culture

- Sexual liberation of women

  • Late 20th C: - Much regional variation in sexual practices

- Globalization

interesting facts survey
Interesting facts (SURVEY)
  • First had sexual intercourse by age 15

- 83% young men

- 13% women (??)

  • 2. Use of condoms
  • 3. Freedom of being openly affectionate with lover
  • 4. Catholic Church influenced both Mexicans and Chicanas

(different ways regarding abortion and contraception)

  • 5. “The New Mestiza” by Gloria Anzaldúa(La Frontera: more
  • than a geographic division)
interesting facts 2
Interesting facts (2)
  • 6. Mothers warned about men not about
  • lesbianism
  • 7. Differences between Mexicans and Chicanas
  • regarding silence sexuality/shocking
  • experiences/ sex education…
  • 8. Sanctions for sexual experimentation

- Cochina /dirty

- Grosera / crude

interesting facts 3
Interesting facts (3)
  • 9. Abuse (context of denial)
  • 10. Masturbation (a bad thing)
  • 11. Menstruation
  • 12. Homosexuality (no education)
  • 13. Virginity (body= map)

14. Chicanas (temptations offered

by USA popular culture and the

pressure of peers)

  • 15. Reputation
interesting facts 4
Interesting facts (4)
  • 16. Women body (fat) Rosaura
  • 17. Quinceañera

- Patriarcal control over women’s sexuality

- Similar to weddings

- Virgen de Guadalupe

- Ethnic identity

- Celebration of purity

- Expression of sexual pleasure

list of protagonists
List of protagonists
  • Write whatever comes to your mind for each character that is related to the article “Talkin’ Sex”.
  • It can be one word, a sentence, an image, an idea…
vagina monologues different types of moans
Vagina Monologues“Different types of moans”
  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apsKJ1H1gyg
types of moans
TYPES of MOANS!!!
  • Mountain moan
  • Baby moan
  • Doggy moan
  • Inhibited militant bisexual moan
  • machine moan
  • Torture Zen moan
  • Diva moan
  • College moan and
  • Surprise triple orgasms
  • Clit moan
  • Vagina moan
  • Combo clit and vagina moan
  • Almost moan
  • Right on it moan
  • Elegant moan
  • Grace Slick moan
  • 40 year old moan
  • Jewish moan
  • African-American
  • Irish moan
bibliography
bibliography
  • Aldama, Frederick Luis. Brown on Brown.: Chicano/a representations of gender sexuality and ethnicity. First edition. University of Texas. 2005. Print
  • González, Juan. Harvest of Empire: A History of Latinos in America. Revised edition.
  • González, Sylvia A. La Chicana: Guadalupe or Malinche. Comparative Perspectives of Third World Women: The impact of race, sex and class. 1980. Pp 229-250. Print
  • Snook, Margaret L. Elena Poniatowska’s “La piel del cielo”: Mexican History Written on the Female Body. American Association of Teachers of Spanish and Portuguese. Bridgewater State College. Hispania Vol. 89, No 2, pp 259-267. Print
  • Winn, Peter. Americas: The Changing Face of Latin American and the Caribbean. Third edition. University of California Press. 2006 Print