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Chapter 5

Chapter 5. Quiz. 1. What is the general term for kids around 6? 2. Whose hair never seems to grow? 3. What does this symbolize? 4. Why is Ralph so angry about the fire going out? 5. Why is Jack so excited when Ralph finds him? 6. Who breaks Piggy’s glasses?

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Chapter 5

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  1. Chapter 5

  2. Quiz • 1. What is the general term for kids around 6? • 2. Whose hair never seems to grow? • 3. What does this symbolize? • 4. Why is Ralph so angry about the fire going out? • 5. Why is Jack so excited when Ralph finds him? • 6. Who breaks Piggy’s glasses? • 7. Who shares his piece of meat with Piggy?

  3. Quiz: • 1. What does Ralph realize about his ability to lead? • 2. What does he realize about Piggy’s abilities? • 3. What is the figure that walked around in the jungle? • 4. Where does Percival say the beast comes from? • 5. What does Simon claim the beast is? • 6. Who breaks up the meeting and criticizes Ralph? • 7. What does this boy claim he can do that Ralph cannot? • 8. When the meeting falls apart, what two boys stand beside Ralph? • 9. What is Piggy afraid of if Ralph is no longer chief? • 10. Who do the boys wish would help them at the end of Chapter 5?

  4. “Every path was an improvisation”- Ralph feels that is making things up as he goes along • “The trouble was, if you were chief, you have to be wise.” Ralph realizes he is not smart enough to lead the boys. • He looks to Piggy for guidance • Sweeping reforms in the meeting- fire stays on the mountain, no more using the restroom where we eat and sleep, no more worrying about the beast

  5. Piggy claims • “Life is scientific.” • “There isn’t no fear. Unless, we get frightened of people.” • Questions the littluns on their fear of the beast • Simon admits to be the figure in the forest of the littlun’s dream • Percival, a littlun, attempts to explain the beast and erupts into tears instead. • To quell the commotion, Jack speaks out of turn to Percival • Percival claims the beast comes out of the sea.

  6. The fear of the sea is the fact that it is unexplored • Simon makes the claim that the beast “is only us.” • Ralph meeting breaks down, with talks of ghosts and Jack’s cussing • “that understandable and lawful was slipping away.”

  7. The Breakup • Jack breaks the rules of the conch and the organization of the meeting • Claims Ralph is weak because he cannot hunt • Claims that Ralph being chosen as a leader does not make a difference when he cannot hunt- does not have the physical power to hold the rule • Jack breaks away from the meeting, leaving it in anarchy • Piggy begs Ralph to call them back, “What’s the grownups going to say?” • “If I blow the conch and they don’t come back; then we’ve had it.”

  8. The Fallout • Only Ralph, Piggy, and Simon remain- The leader, the intellectual, the spiritual guide • Ralph feels like giving up his leadership role • Ralph starts fearing ghosts; Piggy claims there are no ghosts because “things make sense.” • Piggy recognizes that Jack hates himself and Ralph • “He can’t hurt you (Ralph), but if you step out of the way, he’d hurt the next thing. And that’s me.”

  9. Ralph’s Revelation • Ralph realizes he is not intelligent enough to lead on his own. • “discovered dirt and decay…disliked perpetually flipping the tangled hair.” • Long, tangled hair is associated with the slide into savagery • “I’ve been alone. By myself I went, thinking what’s what.” • After this statement he gives the group the rules they are to live by. • “You voted me for chief. Now do what I say.” (81)

  10. Dionysian Influence • What is unique about their meeting? (p 90) • Notice how the instinct to disobey and chant has increased. • Difficult to keep the meeting serious

  11. Vs. Jack • “Am I a hunter or am I not?” – masculine dominance ignoring the opinion of the group • Sign of military dominance over governmental process. • “You can’t hunt.” “Why should choosing make any difference?”

  12. The Conch • What is implied by the fact that the conch has faded from pink to white?

  13. Forgetting the Littluns • Page 86. Why do they voluntarily forget the littluns?

  14. THE BEAST • Piggy claims • “Life is scientific.” • “There isn’t no fear. Unless, we get frightened of people.” • “Life is scientific, but we don’t know, do we?” • Simon claims that maybe the beast “is us.” • His oration is ruined by Jack’s vulgarity • Everyone laughs at him for the comment- no one wants to believe they are the source of evil.

  15. The Triumvirate • When the meeting disperses only three are left: • Ralph the symbol of leadership • Piggy the symbol of higher reasoning • Simon the spiritual leader of the group

  16. Adult Life • The three boys discuss how organized, sensible, and peaceful adult life is. • What is the irony here?

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