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Kathy Booth, WestEd KC Greaney, Santa Rosa Junior College Nick Kremer, Santiago Canyon College. What does completion have to do with it?. The anecdote.

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kathy booth wested kc greaney santa rosa junior college nick kremer santiago canyon college
Kathy Booth, WestEd

KC Greaney, Santa Rosa Junior College

Nick Kremer, Santiago Canyon College

What does completion have to do with it?

the anecdote
The anecdote
  • “I have lots of students who take a couple of courses and then they go and get a job before they complete the program. How can they be failures?”
  • “Sure students complete. They just complete someone else’s credential.”
the facts
The facts

California Community College Scorecard (June 2013)

Career Technical Education Completion

session outcomes
Session outcomes
  • Understand current research efforts to document outcomes for students who don’t complete a community college credential or transfer
  • Evaluate implications of research for community college policy and practice
has anyone else documented this
Has anyone else documented this?
  • The California Community College Chancellor’s Office examined outcomes for students reporting “advance in current job/career” as their college application goal:
    • 67,800 students or 4% of fall 2010
  • Found similar student demographics to the CTE Employment Outcomes Survey
    • 33% had previously attended a four-year institution
    • 26% had earned some type of award in the California community college system
    • median age was 38
has anyone else documented this1
Has anyone else documented this?
  • The Chancellor’s Office study found similar course topics as Bahr’s research:
    • 62% took CTE courses
    • Common programs included Administration of Justice, Policy Academy, Fire Technology, Fire Academy, Mathematics, Office Technology, Petroleum Technology, and Child Development
  • And significant one-year wage gains in particular fields
    • Dental Laboratory Technician - $44,887
    • Plastics and Composites - $35,038
    • Respiratory Care/Therapy - $27,462
key messages
Key messages
  • Skills-builder students are not just anecdotes.
  • These students appear to upgrading work-related competencies and securing significant wage gains.
  • Common success metrics count these students as failures.
  • Few colleges have access to employment, wage, and external certification data needed to demonstrate their successes.
implications
Implications

1) Metrics are needed to capture community college workforce development goals. Some measures that may prove helpful include:

  • Course success
  • Employment
  • Job retention
  • Wage gain
  • Industry certifications and state licenses
implications1
Implications

2) Looking at employment outcomes can help colleges determine whether they are offering students a fair return on investment and a chance at a family-sustaining wage.

implications2
Implications

3) Colleges could leverage information on skills-builder students to inform program improvement efforts.

What are some of the ways that you think this information would be useful at your own institution?

find out more
Find out more

CTE Employment Outcomes Survey: www.rpgroup.org/projects/CTE-Employment-Outcomes-Survey

Peter Bahr’s Research on Skills-builders, plus practitioner-friends guides to support conversations on the research: www.wested.org/project/quantifying-non-completion-pathways-to-success

Contact us!

  • Kathy Booth: kbooth@wested.org
  • KC Greaney: kgreaney@santarosa.edu
  • Nick Kremer: nkremer@cox.net