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ELEMENTS B1 & B2 POWER POINT SLIDES MUSIC: Meat Loaf, Bat Out of Hell (1977)

This PowerPoint presentation explores the role of efficiency gains and the fairness principle in the cost/benefit analysis of takings. It discusses the importance of assessing net benefits, settlement costs, and demoralization costs in determining whether to proceed with regulations. Additionally, it delves into the fairness principle and how it relates to compensating affected parties. The presentation includes case studies and examples to illustrate these concepts.

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ELEMENTS B1 & B2 POWER POINT SLIDES MUSIC: Meat Loaf, Bat Out of Hell (1977)

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  1. ELEMENTS B1 & B2 POWER POINT SLIDESMUSIC: Meat Loaf, Bat Out of Hell (1977) Class #36: Friday, November 18, 2016 National Vicchyssoise Day (& Mickey Mouse’s Birthday)

  2. Takings Theorist #3: Frank MichelmanToday : Intro to Theory DQ3.27-3.29 (me) (cont’d)Mon: Applying Theory DQ3.30 & 3.33 (Oxygen)

  3. Takings Theorists: Frank Michelman DQ3.27-3.28 MMN = Cost/Benefit Analysis of Decision Whether to Compensate • Once state has decided to regulate, there’ll be winners & losers. Compensate losers if … • Costs of Compensating (= Settlement Costs = SC) LESS THAN • Costs of Not Compensating (= Demoralization Costs = DC) QUESTIONS?

  4. Takings Theorists: Frank Michelman DQ3.27-3.28 Role of Efficiency Gains • Efficiency Gains are the net benefits of implementing the regulation in question. • Result of cost/benefit analysis legislature already should have done before deciding to adopt the regulation

  5. Takings Theorists: Frank Michelman DQ3.27-3.28 • Efficiency Gains= net benefits of implementing regulation in question. E.g., in Hadacheck: • Gains (Harm Prevented) b/c no brickyards (health; property values) LESS • Costs of Regulation (Harm to brick industry from having to shut down and relocate; harm from increase in cost of bricks; costs of implementation and enforcement)

  6. Takings Theorists: Frank Michelman DQ3.27-3.28 • Efficiency Gains= net benefits of implementing regulation in question. E.g., in Miller: • Gains (Harm Prevented) to apple orchards & state economy b/c cedar rust limited LESS • Costs of Regulation (Harm to cedar owners & neighbors; costs of implementation and enforcement)

  7. Takings Theorists: Frank Michelman DQ3.27-3.28 Role of Efficiency Gains • Efficiency Gains are the net benefits of implementing the regulation in question. • If Efficiency “Gains” are negative, legislature shouldn’t have passed regulation at all.

  8. Takings Theorists: Frank Michelman DQ3.27-3.28 Role of Efficiency Gains • Efficiency Gains are net benefits of implement-ing the regulation in question. If negative, legislature shouldn’t pass regulation at all. • Important: Ordinarily, not part of Takings analysis. • Under Euclid & Miller, assessing efficiency gains is job for state legislature, not fed’l court.

  9. Takings Theorists: Frank Michelman Role of Efficiency Gains • If Efficiency Gains less than both Settlement Costs and Demoralization Costs, in theory, shouldn’t proceed with regulation. • Could suggest this in a particular Takings case if both SC & DC seem very high, but very hard to know with precision. • Really a legislative Q, so shouldn’t be central to Takings Analysis

  10. Takings Theorists: Frank Michelman DQ3.29 Fairness Principle • OK not to compensate, if affected parties ought to understand how not compensating in similar cases probably is more beneficial in long run. • Like work of John Rawls on “justice” generally: Look at problem before you know which people in particular will be affected. • Can’t measure this, so using principle = arguments about fairness and how people are likely to react

  11. Takings Theorists: Frank Michelman:Fairness Principle • OK not to compensate, if affected parties ought to understand how not compensating in similar cases probably is more beneficial in long run. • IMPORTANT: Asking about fairness of not compensating losers, not about fairness of underlying regulation. QUESTIONS?

  12. LOGISTICS: Mon & Tue Both Classes Together Both Days • MON: Evaluations (Be Specific) • MON: Midterms Available at End of Class (Bring Grading #) • MON/TUE: Unit 3 Review Problems • MON/TUE: Check Course Page for Specific Panel Responsibilities

  13. Penn Central Transportation Co. v. City of New York 1978 &DQ3.31: Demsetz Takings Story

  14. The Blizzard of ‘78

  15. BORN: Louise Brown: 1st test tube baby Clay Aiken * Erin Andrews Kobe Bryant * James Franco Nelly Furtado * Josh Hartnett Katherine Heigl * Ashton Kutcher Matthew Morrison * Usher Chase Utley * Reggie Wayne DIED Hubert Humphrey Margaret Mead Golda Meir Keith Moon Norman Rockwell 1978: Births & Deaths

  16. 1978: Entertainment (Bonus Slide) • John Travolta • Saturday Night Fever (Grammy for album) • Grease (movie) • Vietnam movies (5 yrs after fall of Saigon) • Deer Hunter (best picture) • Coming Home (best actor & actress) • Premieres: Dallas; Evita; Garfield

  17. 1978: Songs (Bonus Slide) • Just the Way You Are (Billy Joel) • Copacabana (Barry Manilow) • Three Times a Lady (Commodores) • Sailing (Christopher Cross) • Paradise by the Dashboard Light (Meat Loaf)

  18. 1978: International • Camp David Accords: Peace treaty between Israel & Egypt • Unrest in Iran & Nicaragua anticipates revolutions of ’79 • US agrees to formally recognize People’s Republic of China • Panama Canal Treaties ratified by Senate; will end US control of Canal as of end of ’99

  19. 1978: California • I arrive at Stanford mid-September • Calif. Propositions 13 & 6 (11/7) • Jonestown Mass Suicide (11/18) • Killing of Harvey Milk/George Moscone by Dan White (11/27)

  20. 1978: Other Memorable • 1st US casinos outside Nevada open in Atlantic City • Affirmed wins Triple Crown (not again until 2015) • Red Sox & Yankees: Bucky Dent • Pope Paul VI  Pope John Paul I  (53 Days)  Pope John Paul II

  21. 1978: U.S. Supreme Court • Regents of theUniv. of California v.Bakke (affirmative action) • Tennessee Valley Authority v. Hill (snail darter) • Penn Central Transportation Co. v. City of New York (Grand Central Station)

  22. Penn Central: Demsetz Takings Story • Decision: Whether to alter historically significant building • Old Rule: Os can do as they like. • Externalities: Harm to nearby tourist businesses and tourism generally; harm to “history buffs” & civic pride • Change in Circumstances: As time passes, historic buildings become more well-known/more popular/rarer • Increased Externalities: Increase in [Perception of] Harms b/c more popularity; more reliance; loss of some historic buildings (Old Penn Station in 1963)

  23. Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis: "Is it not cruel to let our city die by degrees, stripped of all her proud monuments, until there will be nothing left of all her history and beauty to inspire our children? If they are not inspired by the past of our city, where will they find the strength to fight for her future? …

  24. Jacqueline Kennedy Onassis: "Americans care about their past, but for short term gain they ignore it and tear down everything that matters. Maybe… this is the time to take a stand, to reverse the tide, so that we won't all end up in a uniform world of steel and glass boxes."

  25. Penn Central: Demsetz Takings Story • Decision: Whether to alter historically significant building • Change in Circumstances: As time passes, historic buildings become more well-known/more popular/rarer • Increased Externalities: Increase in [Perception of] Harms b/c more popularity; more reliance; fewer historic bldgs • Change in Rule: Passage of Historic Preservation Laws • Response: Os of historic buildings might claim “Taking” b/c of interference w Property Rights: (Penn Central is first challenge)

  26. Penn Central: Demsetz Takings Story Policy Questions • For State Legislature (not you): Is Historic Preservation a Good Way to Address Growing Externalities? • For Federal Takings Analysis (you): Society decided relatively recently that historic preservation is important. • Fair to Os of historic bldgs to bear financial burden? -OR - • Should gov’t pay them to preserve landmarks? Questions on Demsetz & Penn Central?

  27. Penn Central (1978)Application of AuthoritiesKrypton: SaxUranium: Epstein & Mahon

  28. Penn Central: DQ3.33 (Krypton) Apply Prior Authority to PC Facts • Sax • Pure Arbiter Case? • Enterpriser Case? • Controlling Spillover Effects?

  29. Penn Central: DQ3.33 Apply Theorists to Facts of PC: Sax • Arbiter v. Enterpriser: • Not Standard Arbiter Case b/c No Land Use Conflict • Not Standard Ent. Case b/c Gov’t Doesn’t Want to Run • Might Argue : More like Ent. b/c Gov’t Wants Parcel Used Only for Particular Purpose that Serves Gov’t Interest • Control Spillover Effects • Not Preventing Harm to Other Land Uses • BUT: Externalities to NYC from decision to change bldg. • NOTE: Similar Difficulties Applying Miller

  30. Penn Central: DQ3.33 & 3.40 (Uranium) Apply Prior Authority to PC Facts • Epstein & Related Arguments • Public Nuisance/Hadacheck Case?

  31. Penn Central: DQ3.33 & 3.40 (Uranium) Apply Prior Authority to PC Facts • Epstein & Related Arguments • Public Nuisance/Hadacheck Case? NO • Implied Compensation/Reciprocity: • DQ3.40: The dissent claims that there was no “reciprocity of advantage” in Penn Central. • Can you make an argument that Justice Rehnquist is wrong on this point?

  32. Penn Central: DQ3.33 & DQ3.40 Apply Theorists to Facts of PC: Epstein • Stopping Public Nuisance: NO • Implicit Compensation • Reciprocity? : • Normally not for Hist. Preservation • Penn Central does get some non-trivial tourism benefits at Grand Central • NOTE: Other Compensation from Ordinance • Tax Breaks:Probably Not Enough to Matter (Not Raised) • TDRs: Could discuss; might depend on actual value

  33. Penn Central: DQ3.32 (Uranium) Apply Prior Authority to PC Facts • Arguments from Mahon (beside reciprocity)? • Too Far?

  34. Penn Central: DQ3.32 (Uranium) Arguments about Penn Central from Mahon: • Loss in Property Value = “Too Far”? • Losing $2 Million/year • BUT retains value of building + reasonable rate of return • Gets TDRs + tax breaks • Would need better data plus discussion re meaning of “too far” • Value to Zero?

  35. Penn Central: DQ3.32 (Uranium) Arguments about Penn Central from Mahon: • Value to Zero? • If look at whole parcel, NO • If look at air rights alone, MAYBE • BUT City might allow use of air rights if better design • BUT TDRs may allow moving value of air rights to new site • Why Not Interference w Contract Case? • Other Arguments from Mahon?

  36. Penn Central: DQ3.32-3.33 (Krypton) Arguments about PC from Prior Cases One Common Way to Do This: Compare Facts of Old Case to Facts of New Case/Hypo

  37. Penn Central: DQ3.32-3.33 (Krypton) Compare Facts of Old Case to Facts of PC • E.g., Compare Nectowto Penn Central: • PC: Less Interference w PptyRts (Value Left) • PC: Furthers Police Power (Welfare) (NectowDidn’t) • Thus, Better Case for Gov’t than Nectow

  38. Penn Central: DQ3.32-3.33 (Krypton) Compare Facts of Old Case to Facts of PC • E.g., Compare Hadacheckto Penn Central: • Gov’t Purpose? • Almost Certainly Stronger in Hadacheck • Serious Concerns re Human Health > Economics • Interference with Property Rights? Hard Call • Had: Basically can do anything except existing use; may have substantial loss on investment. • PC: Basically can only do existing use; still have reasonable return on investment.

  39. Penn Central: DQ3.32-3.33 (Krypton) Compare Facts of Old Case to Facts of PC • If compare facts for all cases, should see that PC facts are between the other cases (like an exam Q): • Smaller interference w property rights than Mahon or Nectow; greater interference than Miller (Hard to say re Hadacheck) • Arguably less important purpose than Hadacheck or Miller; more important than Nectow or arguably Mahon (at least as described by Holmes)

  40. Penn Central: DQ3.32-3.33 (Krypton) Compare Facts of Old Case to Facts of PC • If compare facts for all cases, should see that PC facts are between the other cases (like an exam Q): • Suggests Theorists especially helpful to resolve. Note that US SCt in PC explicitly relies on both Sax and Michaelman. (Epstein not yet written).

  41. Penn Central Transportation Co. v. City of New York (1978)DQ3.37: Arbitrariness Claim(Radium)

  42. Penn Central: Arbitrary?DQ3.37 (Radium) Penn Central claimed designation of historical buildings arbitrarily singled out some property owners. Why Did Majority Disagree?

  43. Penn Central: Arbitrary?DQ3.37 (Radium) Majority: Not Arbitrary (pp.143-45: “Secondly …) • Comprehensive Plan Here • No Singling Out: Rule applies to “vast numbers of structures” in NYC • Arbitrariness limited by judicial review of designation or decision

  44. Penn Central: Arbitrary?DQ3.37 (Radium) Majority: Not Arbitrary (pp.143-45: “Secondly …) • Comprehensive Plan Here • Hard to say gov’t action is “arbitrary” when PC didn’t exhaust other remedies: • Didn’t appeal designation as landmark • Didn’t appeal decision by Board to reject plans • Only tried 2 options for additional stories

  45. Penn Central: Arbitrary?DQ3.37 (Radium) Majority: Not Arbitrary (pp.143-45: “Secondly …) • Comprehensive Plan Here • Hard to say gov’t action is “arbitrary” when PC didn’t exhaust other remedies. • NOTE: US SCtnot happy to be asked to decide constitutional Q that might be unnecessary, but Majority doesn’t explicitly reject claim for this.

  46. Penn Central: Arbitrary?DQ3.37 (Radium) Majority: Not Arbitrary (pp.143-45: “Secondly …) • Comprehensive Plan Here • Hard to say gov’t action is “arbitrary” when PC didn’t exhaust other remedies. • Not “arbitrary” just b/c falls more heavily on some landowners: regulatory burdens don’t have to be evenly distributed (citing Miller; Euclid; Hadacheck).

  47. Penn Central: DQ3.37 Arbitrary? Majority: Not Arbitrary • Same result on this claim as Hadacheck & Miller • Reminder: Arbitrariness won’t be an issue for you. • Leaves us with real Takings Question

  48. Penn Central Transportation Co. v. City of New York (1978)Takings Analysis

  49. Penn Central: Takings Analysis Structure of Penn Central Takings Analysis • Overview • Relatively Clear Instances of Takings • Arguments from Purpose • Arguments re Harm to Property Owner • Means/End Testing

  50. Penn Central: Takings Analysis KEYS TO COLOR OF TEXT Greens = Arguments of Claimant PC Blues = Points Made by Majority Reds = Points Made by Dissent Purple = Points Made by Prior Authorities Black = Commentary from Me Yellow/Gold: Open Qs After Penn Central

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