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Is The Grass Really Greener? or Is it Worth the Gamble?. Michele Darnell, Illinois Wesleyan Laura Docherty, Fenwick High School Scott Ham, Butler University Allegra Giulietti-Schmitt, Highland Park High School. Laura. Planting the Seeds/Placing the Bet --The Past

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is the grass really greener or is it worth the gamble

Is The Grass Really Greener?orIs it Worth the Gamble?

Michele Darnell, Illinois Wesleyan

Laura Docherty, Fenwick High School

Scott Ham, Butler University

Allegra Giulietti-Schmitt, Highland Park High School

laura
Laura
  • Planting the Seeds/Placing the Bet --The Past
  • Cultivating /Enhancing Your Wager-- The Present
  • Pruning /Winning-- Thinking about the future
scott
Scott
  • Graduated Indiana University, May 1992, Double Major: Journalism and Germanic Studies, Psychology Minor
  • Substitute Teacher, Rockwood School District, May 1992-September1993
  • Admission Counselor, Columbia College of Missouri, September 1993-November 1994
  • Assistant Director of Admission, Indiana University, November 1994-July 1998
  • Senior Assistant Director of Admission, Indiana University, June 1999-July 2000
  • Associate Director of Admission, Northwestern University, July 2000-August 2004
  • Director of College Counseling, College Coach, Highland Park, IL, August 2004-July 2006
  • Educational Manager, College Board, Midwestern Regional Office, July 2006-August 2008
  • Dean of Admission, Butler University, August 2008-Present
know yourself
Know Yourself
  • What aspects of your current position correlate to aspects of positions outside of what you are currently doing?
  • How will changing positions help you to achieve greater job satisfaction?
  • Are there things you like to do that are not part of your current position that would be available in a position on the “other” side?
  • What would you have to give up if you made the transition?
know your strengths
Know Your Strengths
  • Interacting with students
  • Interacting with parents
  • Data analysis
  • Writing recommendations
  • Critiquing essays
  • Counseling students through tough times/bad news
push through the tough times
Push Through the Tough Times
  • Think about why you want to make a move to the “other” side
  • Don’t leave the job you’re in exclusively because of conflict with co-workers/supervisor
  • Don’t assume the grass is greener on the “other” side
  • Talk to those who have made a transition to find out what such a move requires (certifications, additional education, weekends/ evenings of work, etc.)
allegra
Allegra
  • Student Admissions Representative (StAR), 2001-2002
  • Admissions Intern, 2002-2004
  • Graduated Bradley University, 2004, Double Major: Psychology and Sociology, Women’s Studies Minor
  • Admission Counselor, Bradley University, July 2004-July 2007
  • Assistant Director of Admission & Chicago Regional Representative, Bradley University, July 2007- August 2009
  • College Counseling Assistant/Counseling Resource Center Coordinator, Highland Park High School, August 2009-Present
  • Graduate Student at DePaul University in School of Education
    • School Counseling and Type 73, anticipated May 2012
my new experience on the high school side
My new experience on the high school side
  • Daily interaction with students!
  • Utilizing my college admissions background to assist student with
    • College search process
    • Application completion
    • Essay writing and editing
    • Recommendation letters
    • Financial Aid; FAFSA, scholarship search, financial aid package review
  • Stipend position as College Coach
    • 1st generation, low income, predominantly minority students
    • Teach basics and assist with the college search process
    • Career assessment and self exploratory exercises
    • Organize college campus visits
comparison college vs high school
ComparisonCollege vs. High School
  • Student age range: 16-22
  • Relationship: shorter term
    • Expert on many schools and populations
    • Student and number focused
    • FERPA
  • Seasonal structure with recruitment/territory management
    • Travel (HSVs, college fairs, phone calls, emails, panels)
  • Application review
    • transcripts, test scores, essays, recommendation letters, scholarships
  • Financial Aid
  • On and off campus programming
    • Student and counselor receptions
  • Stay current with campus events
  • Involvement with Regional, State and National organizations
  • How you stay connected with students is up to you!
  • Student age range: 14-18
  • Relationship: depth, social-emotional
    • Expert on one school and the population
    • Student focused & witness growth
    • Family/parent participation
    • Faculty/school collaboration
  • Daily spontaneity/innovation
    • Still seasonal
  • Stay current with college updates
    • Attend counselor area events
    • Meet representations during HSVs
  • Involvement with Regional, State and National organizations
  • Stay connected to students through everyday school activity
  • (coaching, after school programming)
michele darnell
Michele Darnell
  • 1988 – present Admissions Counselor/Associate Dean of Admissions, Illinois Wesleyan University
  • 1995-1996 MICDS – College Counselor
reality checks
Reality Checks
  • It's not always greener...
  • Think before you leap
  • Benefits matter
  • Don't "burn bridges”!
resources
Resources
  • Mentors/ either through MOACAC or connections
  • MOACAC/NACAC
  • Harvard Institute
  • Middle Management Institutes

(IACAC’s June 9 & 10 at Elmhurst College) http://www.iacac.org/mmi/2011/