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  1. September 2008Mesh Meeting Agenda Authors: Date: 2008-09-08 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  2. IEEE 802.11s:Mesh NetworkingTask Group TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away. Waikoloa, Hawai‘i 8-11 September, 2008 Chair: Donald E. Eastlake 3rd. (Motorola) d3e3e3@gmail.com +1-508-634-2066 Technical Editor: Anthony Maida (3eTI) Secretary: Stephen Rayment (BelAir Networks) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  3. Venue Hilton Waikoloa Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  4. General Flow of the TGs Meeting • Monday • Administrivia and Status • TGs Process Presentation • Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft • Tuesday • Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft • Wednesday • Security Presentations • Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft • Thursday • Resolution of Comments and Improvement of the Draft • TGs Process Discussion • Teleconferences/Ad-Hoc Meetings Discussion and Votes • Other Technical Presentations Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  5. Monday, 8 September 200810:30 – 12:30, Queen’s 4 Room • Call meeting to Order • Miscellaneous Announcements • Review of IEEE 802 and 802.11 Policies and Procedures on Intellectual Property, Inappropriate Topics, Etc. • Agenda Approved by unanimous consent • Minutes Approved by unanimous consent: • Denver meeting minutes: 11-08/835r0 • Teleconference minutes: • July 23, Aug 6, Aug 20, 11-08/936r0, 11-08/960r0, 11-08/989r0 • Kaua‘i ad hoc minutes: 11-08/1038r0 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  6. Miscellaneous Announcements • Warning: Do not leave your laptops unattended! • The meeting is not responsible for your unwatched stuff. • Wear your badge at all times in the meeting area! • Individual membership • In all IEEE standards meetings, membership is by individual, hence you do not represent a company or organization. • Photographs and Recordings • No sound recordings are permitted at 802.11 WG or TG meetings. • No photographs allowed without WG Chair permission. • Media – Press and Analyst briefings • Only the 802.11/.15/.18/.19/.22 WG Chair and WG Vice-Chairs are allowed to give verbal statements/interviews to the media on behalf of their respective IEEE working group. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  7. Important Stuff • Note the links from the items in red in the left column of all pages of the Working Group meeting agenda. • Affiliation Frequently Asked Questions: http://standards.ieee.org/faqs/affiliationFAQ.html • Anti-Trust: http://standards.ieee.org/resources/antitrust-guidelines.pdf • IEEE Ethics: http://www.ieee.org/web/membership/ethics/code_ethics.html • Letter of Assurance Form: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/loa.pdf • IEEE Patent Committee: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/index.html • IEEE Patent Policy: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt • Patent FAQ: http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/faq.pdf Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  8. Participants, Patents, and Duty to Inform • All participants in this meeting have certain obligations under the IEEE-SA Patent Policy. Participants: • “Shall inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of each “holder of any potential Essential Patent Claims of which they are personally aware” if the claims are owned or controlled by the participant or the entity the participant is from, employed by, or otherwise represents • “Personal awareness” means that the participant “is personally aware that the holder may have a potential Essential Patent Claim,” even if the participant is not personally aware of the specific patents orpatent claims • “Should inform the IEEE (or cause the IEEE to be informed)” of the identity of “any other holders of such potential Essential Patent Claims” (that is, third parties that are not affiliated with the participant, with the participant’s employer, or with anyone else that the participant is from or otherwise represents) • The above does not apply if the patentclaim is already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance that applies to the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group • Quoted text excerpted from IEEE-SA Standards Board Bylaws subclause 6.2 • Early identification of holders of potential Essential Patent Claims is strongly encouraged • No duty to perform a patent search Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  9. Patent Related Links All participants should be familiar with their obligations under the IEEE-SA Policies & Procedures for standards development. Patent Policy is stated in these sources: IEEE-SA Standards Boards Bylaws http://standards.ieee.org/guides/bylaws/sect6-7.html#6 IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual http://standards.ieee.org/guides/opman/sect6.html#6.3 Material about the patent policy is available at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-material.html If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at patcom@ieee.org or visit http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/index.html This slide set is available at http://standards.ieee.org/board/pat/pat-slideset.ppt Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  10. Call for Potentially Essential Patents • If anyone in this meeting is personally aware of the holder of any patent claims that are potentially essential to implementation of the proposed standard(s) under consideration by this group and that are not already the subject of an Accepted Letter of Assurance: • Either speak up now or • Provide the chair of this group with the identity of the holder(s) of any and all such claims as soon as possible or • Cause an LOA to be submitted Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  11. Other Guidelines for IEEE WG Meetings • All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. • Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. • Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. • Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. • Technical considerations remain primary focus • Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. • Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. • Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed … do formally object. • --------------------------------------------------------------- • See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause 5.3.10 and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  12. Automated Attendance Recording • Go to http://newton/11/attendance(Documents: http://802server.events.ieee.org/ or 172.16.0.10 or just http://newton) • Sign-in • Claim attendance credit for each session. • Only “sign-in” and “claim credit” for yourself, do NOT“sign-in” for others. • You have to log in every session! • Do NOT use 802wirelessworld for anything! Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  13. Monday, 8 September 200810:30 – 12:30, Queen’s 4 Room • Status of TGs Draft and Comment Resolutions • Draft D2.01+ • “Resolution of comments from Letter Ballot 126”, 11-08/493r18 • The substance of comments 374, 763, and 1065 are not to be discussed • Presentation and Discussion on Process • “TGs Process, September”, Donald Eastlake 3rd, 11-08/1049r0 • “Awake Window Handling”, 11-08/1055r0, Jarkko Kneckt (Nokia) • Straw Poll: 802.11s shall define a single mechanism (no matter what it is) for Awake Window and groupcast frames delivery handling ? • Yes: 5 No: 0 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  14. Monday, 8 September 200810:30 – 12:30, Queen’s 4 Room • Straw Poll: What do You consider as the best alternative for the Awake Window and the groupcast frames transmission handling? (Please vote for the most attractive alternative only) • Before the Awake Window • After the Awake Window • Only during the Awake Window • Combined Groupcast delivery and Awake Window • The current mode, Awake Window and groupcast delivery are two separate issues • Abstain / do not know / do not care • Option1: 0 Option 2: 0 Option3: 0 Option4: 4 Option5: 0 Abstain: 12 • Power Aware Link Metric, 11-08/1014r0 (Word 11-08/1015r0: “Forwarding MPs in Power Save”), Jarkko Kneckt (Nokia) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  15. Monday, 8 September 200810:30 – 12:30, Queen’s 4 Room • Straw Poll: Should the default link metric be Power Save aware? • Yes: 2 No: 4 Abstain: 9 • “Normative Text for Power Save”, 11-08/1057r0, Jarkko Kneckt (Nokia) • “Power Save Comment Resolutions”, 11-08/1056r0 (Word: 11-08/1057r0 & 11-08/1015r0), Jarkko Kneckt (Nokia) • “MDA Issues”, 11-08/635r3, 11-08/636r5, Liwen Chu (STMicrosystems) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  16. Monday, 8 September 200810:30 – 12:30, Queen’s 4 Room • Straw Poll: Do you think the problems in 11-08/635r3 should be solved based on the methods or the updated methods in 11-08/635r3? • Yes: 1 No: 1 Do not know: 14 • Recess until 16:00 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  17. Monday, 8 September 200816:00 – 18:00, Queen’s 4 Room • Call Meeting to Order • IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder • Straw Poll on interest in working on comment resolutions in sub-group, by category: • MAC: 5 Security: 5 RFI: 5 General: 2 • Divide into subgroups for comment resolution as follows: • MAC – Michelle Gong • Security – Jesse Walker • RFI – Guenael Strutt • Recombine and Recess until 19:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  18. Monday, 8 September 200819:30 – 21:30, Queen’s 4 Room • Call Meeting to Order • IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder • Divide into subgroups for comment resolution as follows: • MAC – Michelle Gong • Security – Jesse Walker • RFI – Guenael Strutt • Recombine and Recess until 10:30 Tuesday Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  19. Tuesday, 9 September200810:30 – 13:30, Queen’s 4 Room • Call Meeting to Order • IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder • Moved, To adopt the comment resolution in 11-08/1033r2 (Kauai ad hoc resolutions) with Resolution Status (Column P) = “Open”, Topic Category (Column H) = “General”, and Resolution Code = “Accept”, “Counter”, or “Reject” except CID 128; and direct the Editor to incorporate the accepts and counters into the Draft. • Mover: Tony Maida Seconder: Guido Hiertz • Yes: 11 No: 0 Abstain: 2 (passes > ¾) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  20. Tuesday, 9 September200810:30 – 13:30, Queen’s 4 Room • Reports from subgroups • Security – Jesse Walker • Work in document 11-08/1088r0 • Reviewed all security related comment • Resolution proposed for 22 comments • Working through deferred comments • MAC – Michelle Gong • Discussed a large number of submissions and agreed on directions • Various people are working on normative text to present • RFI – Guenael Strutt • “Waikoloa RFI Comment Resolution”, 11-09/1108r0. If all resolution adopted, will be at 45% of RFI resolved. • Have not attacked the lazy WDS problem. Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  21. Tuesday, 9 September200810:30 – 13:30, Queen’s 4 Room • Straw Poll on subgroup interest: • Security: 5 MAC: 7 RFI: 3 • Divide into subgroups for comment resolution • Recombine • The Chair announced the availability of D2.02 including a red-line and word conversion in the Member’s Area. This Draft incorporates changes through Denver. • Recess until 13:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  22. Tuesday, 9 September200813:30 – 15:30, Queen’s 4 Room • Call Meeting to Order • IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder • Resolution of comments and improvement of the Draft • Recess until 19:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  23. Pending Presentations • MP -> Mesh Station, Guido R. Hiertz • 11-08/957r2 and 11-08/798r1, Liwen Chu (STMicrosystems) • “Synchronization related comment resolution”, 11-08/1071r0 (Word: 11-08/1073r0 &11-08/1076r0) (Excel: 11-08/1077r0), Kazuyuki Sakoda (Sony) • “Channel switch related comment resolution”, 11-08/1067r0, Kazuyuki Sakoda (Sony) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  24. Tuesday, 9 September200817:30 – 21:30, Queen’s 4 Room • Call Meeting to Order • IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder • Resolution of comments and improvement of the Draft • Recess until 08:00 Wednesday Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  25. Wednesday, 10 September 200808:00 – 10:00, Queen’s 4 Room • Call Meeting to Order • IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder • Security Presentations • “Proposed Resolutions on PLM Text”, 11-08/1082r0, Jesse Walker / Meiyuan Zhao (Intel) • Resolution of comments and improvement of the Draft • Recess until 13:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  26. Wednesday, 10 September 200813:30 – 18:00, Queen’s 3 Room • Call Meeting to Order • IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder • Resolution of comments and improvement of the Draft • Recess until 16:00 • Call Meeting to Order • IPR and Attendance Recording Reminder • Resolution of comments and improvement of the Draft • Recess until 08:00 Thursday Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  27. Thursday, 11 September 2008 08:00 – 10:00, Queen’s 4 room • Call Meeting to Order • IPR and Attendance recording reminder • Resolution of comments and improvement of the Draft • Recess until 13:30 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  28. Thursday, 11 September 2008 13:30 – 15:30, Queen’s 4 room • Call Meeting to Order • IPR and Attendance recording reminder • Moved, to direct the Editor to produce one or more revisions of the Draft so as to incorporate all changes and comment resolutions adopted before the end of this session. • Discussion and Votes re Process / ad hocs / teleconferences • “TGs Process, September”, Donald Eastlake 3rd, 11-08/1049r1 • Other Technical Presentations • Adjourn sine die • TGs Motto: Perfection is achieved not when there is nothing left to add but when there is nothing left to take away Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  29. [Reference Information] • Updated PAR at http://standards.ieee.org/board/nes/projects/802-11s.pdf. • Original PAR for IEEE 802.11 ESS Mesh: 11-04/54r2. Original Five Criteria for IEEE 802.11 ESS Mesh: 11-04/56r1. • Comment Resolution Spreadsheets: • 11-08/493r18: Resolution of Letter Ballot #126 Comments (D2.01) • TGs Technical Editors: • Anthony Maida (3eTI), Drafts 2.01 + • Avinash Joshi (Motorola), Drafts 1.09 through D2.0 • W. Steven Conner (Intel). Drafts 0.01 through D1.08(also chair of the first Mesh Study Group Session) Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola

  30. [Earlier Meeting Minutes] • Task Group “s” Meeting Minutes • July 2008, Denver, Colorado, 11-08/835r0 • May 2008, Jacksonville, Florida, 11-08/580r2 • May 2008, ad hoc meeting, Santa Clara, California, 11-08/539r0 • March 2008, Orlando, Florida, 11-08/424r0 • January 2008, Taipei, Taiwan, 11-08/170r2 • November 2007, Atlanta, Georgia, 11-07/2826r1 • September 2007, Waikoloa, Hawai‘i, 11-07/2495r0 • September 2007, ad hoc Meeting, Līhu‘e, Kaua‘i, Hawai‘i, 11-07/2413r0 • July 2007, San Francisco, California, 11-07/2277r0 • June 2007, ad hoc Meeting, Hillsboro, Oregon, 11-07/2009r0 • May 2007, Montreal, Quebec, 11-07/746r0 • April 2007 ad hoc Meeting, Eindhoven, Netherlands, 11-07/559r1 • Recent Teleconference Minutes • May 28, June 25, July 9: 11-08/704r0, 11-08/749r0, 11-08/793r0 Donald Eastlake 3rd, Motorola