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Network Measurements Working Group. Chairs: Richard Hughes-Jones Brian Tierney NM-WG GGF10 Berlin. Intellectual Property Policy. I acknowledge that participation in GGF9 is subject to the GGF Intellectual Property Policy.

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network measurements working group
Network Measurements Working Group

Chairs: Richard Hughes-Jones

Brian Tierney

NM-WG GGF10 Berlin

NMWG GGF10 Berlin March 2004

R. Hughes-Jones Manchester

intellectual property policy
Intellectual Property Policy
  • I acknowledge that participation in GGF9 is subject to the GGF Intellectual Property Policy.
  • Intellectual Property Notices Note Well: All statements related to the activities of the GGF and addressed to the GGF are subject to all provisions of Section 17 of GFD-C.1 (.pdf), which grants to the GGF and its participants certain licenses and rights in such statements. Such statements include verbal statements in GGF meetings, as well as written and electronic communications made at any time or place, which are addressed to: the GGF plenary session,
  • any GGF working group or portion thereof,
  • the GFSG, or any member thereof on behalf of the GFSG,
  • the GFAC, or any member thereof on behalf of the GFAC,
  • any GGF mailing list, including any working group or research group list, or any other list functioning under GGF auspices,
  • the GFD Editor or the GWD process
  • Statements made outside of a GGF meeting, mailing list or other function, that are clearly not intended to be input to an GGF activity, group or function, are not subject to these provisions.
  • Excerpt from Section 17 of GFD-C.1 Where the GFSG knows of rights, or claimed rights, the GGF secretariat shall attempt to obtain from the claimant of such rights, a written assurance that upon approval by the GFSG of the relevant GGF document(s), any party will be able to obtain the right to implement, use and distribute the technology or works when implementing, using or distributing technology based upon the specific specification(s) under openly specified, reasonable, non-discriminatory terms. The working group or research group proposing the use of the technology with respect to which the proprietary rights are claimed may assist the GGF secretariat in this effort. The results of this procedure shall not affect advancement of document, except that the GFSG may defer approval where a delay may facilitate the obtaining of such assurances. The results will, however, be recorded by the GGF Secretariat, and made available. The GFSG may also direct that a summary of the results be included in any GFD published containing the specification.GGF Intellectual Property Policies are adapted from the IETF Intellectual Property Policies that support the Internet Standards Process.

NMWG GGF10 Berlin March 2004

R. Hughes-Jones Manchester

agenda for nm gw meeting 10 mar 15 30
Agenda for NM-GW Meeting 10 Mar 15:30
  • Agenda bashing
    • Note Takers
  • Hierarchy document : Richard
  • Milestones: Richard10/0
  • Overview of GHPN-RG work on Network Services: Franco15/25
  • Proposed new Network Measurements Research Group (BoF in Hawaii?): Brian10/35
  • Overview of WS-RF and how it effects NMWG work: Ben Clifford10/45
  • Summary / current status of Request schema: Mark/Paul15/60
  • Summary status on Response schema : Dan/[Martin]15/75
  • piPEs experience with new schema: Eric/[Warren]10/85
  • SLAC experience with new schema: Eric/[Paola]10/95

NMWG GGF10 Berlin March 2004

R. Hughes-Jones Manchester

agenda for schema discussion meeting 11 mar 04
Agenda for Schema Discussion Meeting 11 Mar 04
  • 4 Sessions: Room 2097 8:30-10:00; 10:30-12:00; 14:00-15:30; 16:00-17:30
  • Agenda bashing
  • Explain difference between document/literal SOAP vs RPC SOAP and why we care - Dan 15/0
  • General overview of why we are here: sample use case scenarios : Mark 15/30
  • Walkthrough of Request schema: Mark/Paul 60/90
  • Overview on Response schema / requirements doc : Dan/[Martin] 60/150
  • Analyze the two schemas in combination for incompatibilities and resolve 120
    • Include Examples: take a few common measurements, e.g. ping, iperf, host cpu/mem, some SNMP counters
    • describe some sample inputs/outputs for each.
  • And if there is still time:Begin work on the "development guide". ( 30 min?)
    • Include a Test suite: pick some combinations of inputs/expected-outputs that would indicate an "interoperable" implementation.
    • Try to hit some of the "edge" cases with time ranges, parameter values, etc.

NMWG GGF10 Berlin March 2004

R. Hughes-Jones Manchester

status of the hierarchy document
Status of the Hierarchy Document
  • “A Hierarchy of Network Performance Characteristics for Grid Applications and Services”
  • Document defines terms & relations:
    • Network characteristics
    • Measurement methodologies
    • Observation
  • Discusses Nodes & Paths
  • For each Characteristic
    • Defines the meaning
    • Attributes that SHOULD be included
    • Issues to consider when making an observation
  • Status:
    • Originally submitted to GFSG as Community Practice Documentdraft-ggf-nmwg-hierarchy-01.pdf Jul 2003
    • Revised to Proposed Recommendationdraft-ggf-nmwg-hierarchy-02.pdf 7 Jan 04
    • Now in 60 day Public comment from 28 Jan 04 – 18 days to go.
    • See http://sourceforge.net/projects/ggf

NMWG GGF10 Berlin March 2004

R. Hughes-Jones Manchester

nm wg milestones as of ggf9
NM-WG Milestones – as of GGF9
  • Jun 2003 Detailed discussion of Schemas document
  • Jun 2003 GGF 8 Seattle
  • Jul 2003Submit hierarchy document to GFSG
  • Oct 2003 Draft of Schema document
  • Oct 2003 Set of Use Case queries
  • Oct 2003 Draft XML
  • Oct 2003 f2f discussion on XML and Schema
  • Oct 2003 GGF 9 Chicago
  • Dec 3003 Agreed version of Schema document (data model)
  • Jan 2003 Create XML Schema Input and Output
  • Xxx 2003 ?? OGSI Spec. ??
  • Xxx 2004 Initial implementations and Proof of Concept Demos
  • Feb 2004 GGF 10 Berlin
  • Jan 2003 Refine XML Schema Input and Output
  • Xxx 2004 Implementations and Proof of Concept Demos
  • Jun 2004 GGF 11 Hawaii

NMWG GGF10 Berlin March 2004

R. Hughes-Jones Manchester

nm wg milestones
NM-WG Milestones
  • July 2002 GGF 5 Edinburgh
  • Jul 2002Begin work on tools classification
  • Oct 2002 GGF 6 Chicago
  • Oct 2002Near-final draft of characteristics hierarchy document to GFSG
  • Mar 2003 GGF 7 Tokyo
  • Mar 2003Finish work on tools classification web page
  • Mar 2003Begin work on schema document
  • Jun 2003 GGF 8 Seattle
  • Apr 2003Submit hierarchy document to GFSG
  • Jul 2003Submit hierarchy document to GFSG
  • Oct 2003 Draft of Schema document
  • Nov 2003Draft of Schema document
  • Oct 2003 GGF 9 Chicago
  • Mar 2004 GGF 10 Berlin
  • Jun 2004 GGF 11 Hawaii
  • Jun 2004 Submit schema document to GFSG

Blue = GGF Milestones

NMWG GGF10 Berlin March 2004

R. Hughes-Jones Manchester

nm wg milestones ggf10
NM-WG Milestones – GGF10 **
  • Oct 2003Draft of Schema document
  • Oct 2003 Set of Use Case queries
  • Oct 2003 Draft XML
  • Oct 2003 f2f discussion on XML and Schema
  • Oct 2003 GGF 9 Chicago
  • Dec 3003 Agreed version of Schema document (data model)
  • Jan 2003 Create XML Schema Request & Report/Response
  • Xxx 2003 ?? OGSI Spec. ??
  • Jan 2004 Initial implementationsand Proof of Concept Demos
  • Mar 2004 GGF 10 Berlin
  • Apr 2004 Finish v2 of XML Schema request & response
  • Xxx 2004 Match with Requirements doc.
  • Apr 2004 Draft request and response of Metadata
  • Xxx 2004 Implement XML-RPC and Document/Literal PoC
  • Xxx 2004 Test implementations and Proof of Concept Demos
  • Jun 2004 GGF 11 Hawaii
  • Jun 2004 NM_RG BoF
  • Jun 2004 Submit schema document to GFSG

Blue = GGF Milestones

NMWG GGF10 Berlin March 2004

R. Hughes-Jones Manchester

getting involved in nmwg
Getting Involved in NMWG
  • Network Measurements Working Group (NMWG) is part of the Performance and Information Systems area.
  • Mailing list is nm-wg@gridforum.org
  • Web-pages:http://www-didc.lbl.gov/NMWGhttp://forge.gridforum.org/projects/nm-wg/
  • Join mailing list and participate
    • Send an email to majordomo@gridforum.orgwith the body "subscribe nm-wg"

NMWG GGF10 Berlin March 2004

R. Hughes-Jones Manchester

agenda for nm gw meeting 10 mar 15 301
Agenda for NM-GW Meeting 10 Mar 15:30
  • Agenda bashing
    • Note Takers
  • Hierarchy document : Richard
  • Milestones: Richard10/0
  • Overview of GHPN-RG work on Network Services: Franco15/25
  • Proposed new Network Measurements Research Group (BoF in Hawaii?): Brian10/35
  • Overview of WS-RF and how it effects NMWG work: Ben Clifford10/45
  • Summary / current status of Request schema: Mark/Paul15/60
  • Summary status on Response schema : Dan/[Martin]15/75
  • piPEs experience with new schema: Eric/[Warren]10/85
  • SLAC experience with new schema: Paola10/95

NMWG GGF10 Berlin March 2004

R. Hughes-Jones Manchester

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NMWG GGF10 Berlin March 2004

R. Hughes-Jones Manchester

nm wg milestones ggf8
NM-WG Milestones – GGF8
  • Oct 2002 Finalize tools classification format (and writeup)
  • Oct 2002 Begin work on relationship document
  • Mar 2003 GGF 7 Tokyo
  • Mar 2002 Finalize hierarchy document
  • Mar 2003 Finalize tools classification note / web pages
  • Mar 2003 Begin work on Schemas document web page
  • Apr 2003 Submit hierarchy document to GFSG
  • May 2003 Submit tools classification to GFSG as web pages?
  • Jun 2003 Hierarchy document in internal NMWG Final Call
  • Jun 2003 Detailed discussion of Schemas document
  • Jun 2003 GGF 8 Seattle
  • Jun 2003Submit hierarchy document to GFSG
  • Oct 2003 Draft of Schemas document – f2f discussion
  • Xxx 2003 ?? Possible Joint Meeting / BOF toget OGSI input ??
  • Oct 2003 GGF 9 Chicago
  • Xxx 2003 ?? Create XLM Schema / OGSI Spec. ??
  • Feb 2004 GGF 10 Frankfurt

NMWG GGF10 Berlin March 2004

R. Hughes-Jones Manchester