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Thermodynamics and the Gibbs Paradox. Presented by: Chua Hui Ying Grace Goh Ying Ying Ng Gek Puey Yvonne. Overview. The three laws of thermodynamics The Gibbs Paradox The Resolution of the Paradox Gibbs / Jaynes Von Neumann

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thermodynamics and the gibbs paradox

Thermodynamics and the Gibbs Paradox

Presented by: Chua Hui Ying Grace

Goh Ying Ying

Ng Gek Puey Yvonne

overview
Overview
  • The three laws of thermodynamics
  • The Gibbs Paradox
  • The Resolution of the Paradox
    • Gibbs / Jaynes
    • Von Neumann
  • Shu Kun Lin’s revolutionary idea
  • Conclusion
the three laws of thermodynamics
The Three Laws of Thermodynamics
  • 1st Law
    • Energy is always conserved
  • 2nd Law
    • Entropy of the Universe always increase
  • 3rd Law
    • Entropy of a perfect crystalline substance is taken as zero at the absolute temperature of 0K.
slide6

After

Shows obvious increase in entropy (disorder)

slide8

After

Shows zero increase in entropy as action is reversible

slide9

Compare the two scenarios of mixing and we realize that……

There is a CONTRADICTION!!!

to resolve the contradiction
To resolve the Contradiction
  • Look at how people do this
    • Gibbs /Jaynes
    • Von Neumann
    • Lin Shu Kun
gibbs opinion
Gibbs’ opinion
  • When 2 non-identical gases mix and entropy increase, we imply that the gases can be separated and returned to their original state
  • When 2 identical gases mix, it is impossible to separate the two gases into their original state as there is no recognizable difference between the gases
gibbs opinion 2
Gibbs’ opinion (2)
  • Thus, these two cases stand on different footing and should not be compared with each other
  • The mixing of gases of different kinds that resulted in the entropy change was independent of the nature of the gases
  • Hence independent of the degree of similarity between them
slide13

Entropy

Smax

S=0

Z=0

Similarity

Z = 1

jaynes explanation
Jaynes’ explanation
  • The entropy of a macrostate is given as

Where S(X) is the entropy associated with a chosen set of macroscopic quantities

W(C) is the phase volume occupied by all the microstates in a chosen reference class C

jaynes explanation 2
Jaynes’ explanation (2)
  • This thermodynamic entropy S(X) is not a property of a microstate, but of a certain reference class C(X) of microstates
  • For entropy to always increase, we need to specify the variables we want to control and those we want to change.
  • Any manipulation of variables outside this chosen set may cause us to see a violation of the second law.
von neumann s resolution
Von Neumann’s Resolution
  • Makes use of the quantum mechanical approach to the problem
  • He derives the equation

Where  measures the degree of orthogonality, which is the degree of similarity between the gases.

von neumann s resolution 2
Von Neumann’s Resolution (2)
  • Hence when = 0 entropy is at its highest and when  = 1 entropy is at its lowest
  • Therefore entropy decreases continuously with increasing similarity
slide18

Entropy

Smax

S=0

Z=0

Similarity

Z = 1

slide19

Resolving the Gibbs Paradox - Using Entropy and its revised relation with Similarity proposed by Lin Shu Kun.

  • Draws a connection between information theory and entropy
  • proposed that entropy increases continuously with similarity of the gases
slide20

Why “entropy increases with similarity” ?

  • Due to Lin’s proposition that
  • entropy is the degree of symmetry and
  • information is the degree of non-symmetry

Analyse 3 concepts!

(1) high symmetry = high similarity,

(2) entropy = information loss and

(3) similarity = information loss.

slide21

(1) high symmetry = high similarity

  • symmetry is a measure of indistinguishability
  • high symmetry contributes to high indistinguishability
  • similarity can be described as a continuous measure of imperfect symmetry
  • High Symmetry Indistinguishability High similarity

High symmetry can be described as high similarity !

slide22

(2) entropy = information loss

  • an increase in entropy means an increase in disorder.
  • a decrease in entropy reflects an increase in order.
  • A more ordered system is more highly organized

 thus possesses greater information content.

slide25

From the previous example,

  • Greater entropy would result in least information registered
  •  Higher entropy , higher information loss
  • Thus if the system is more ordered,
  • This means lower entropy and thus less information loss.

entropy = information loss

slide26

(3) similarity = information loss.

1Particle

(n-1)particles

For a system with distinguishable particles,

Information on N particles

= different information of each particle

= N pieces of information

For a system with indistinguishable particles,

Information of N particles

= Information of 1 particle

= 1 piece of information

High similarity (high symmetry)  there is greater information loss.

slide27

Concepts explained:

(1) high symmetry = high similarity

(2) entropy = information loss and

(3) similarity = information loss

After establishing the links between the various concepts,

If a system is

highly symmetrical high similarity

Greaterinformationloss

Higher entropy

lin s resolution of the gibbs paradox
Lin’s Resolution of the Gibbs Paradox
  • Compared to the non-identical gases, we have less information about the identical gases
  • According to his theory,
    • less information=higher entropy

Therefore, the mixing of gases should result in an increase with entropy.

No Paradox!

comparing the 3 graphs

Entropy

Entropy

Entropy

Smax

Smax

Smax

S=0

S=0

Z=0

Similarity

Z = 1

S=0

Z=0

Similarity

Z = 1

Z=0

Similarity

Z = 1

Comparing the 3 graphs

Gibbs

Von Neumann

Lin

why are there different ways in resolving the paradox
Why are there different ways in resolving the paradox?
  • Different ways of considering Entropy
  • Lin—Static Entropy: consideration of configurations of fixed particles in a system
  • Gibbs & von Neumann—Dynamic Entropy: dependent of the changes in the dispersal of energy in the microstates of atoms and molecules
we cannot compare the two ways of resolving the paradox
We cannot compare the two ways of resolving the paradox!
  • Since Lin’s definition of entropy is essentially different from that of Gibbs and von Neumann, it is unjustified to compare the two ways of resolving the paradox.
conclusion
Conclusion
  • The Gibbs Paradox poses problem to the second law due to an inadequate understanding of the system involved.
  • Lin’s novel idea sheds new light on entropy and information theory, but which also leaves conflicting grey areas for further exploration.
acknowledgements
Acknowledgements
  • We would like to thank

Dr. Chin Wee Shong for her support and guidance throughout the semester

Dr Kuldip Singh for his kind support

And all who have helped in one way or another