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“Where Have All the Dollars Gone?”*. Presentation to the National Meeting on Physician Compensation, “Sustainability of Physician Services” Victoria, B.C. M.L. Barer, R. McKendry, K. McGrail and R.G. Evans Centre for Health Services and Policy Research, UBC October 16, 2008

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where have all the dollars gone

“Where Have All the Dollars Gone?”*

Presentation to the National Meeting on Physician Compensation, “Sustainability of Physician Services”

Victoria, B.C.

M.L. Barer, R. McKendry, K. McGrail and R.G. Evans Centre for Health Services and Policy Research, UBC

October 16, 2008


non ffs payments represent an eclectic mix
Non-FFS payments represent an eclectic mix…..


e.g. disability insurance, CME, CMPA, maternity, RSP


e.g. rural incentives, isolation allowance, recruitment/retention, full-service family practice, medical on-call


Salary, sessional, service agreements

loss of information during this transition
Loss of Information during this Transition
  • The new alternative payment programs provide less detail on physician activity, and
  • Reporting detail on the programs themselves is increasingly incomplete.
three phases of msc spending
Three Phases of MSC Spending,
  • Spending per capita adjusted for fee changes, (an index of “real” service output), has moved steadily upward for 36 years
  • After 1990, however, the mix of forms of payment to physicians began to change
  • In the 1990s, FFS payments flattened
  • After 1998, alternative payment forms expanded rapidly
bc msc expenditure total and components constant 1991 92 p c npdb fee index 1969 70 to 2007 08
BC MSC Expenditure, Total and Components, constant $1991/92 p.c., NPDB Fee Index, 1969/70 to 2007/08
growth in b c msc expenditures per capita per annum fee adjusted
% Growth in B.C. MSC Expenditures per capita per annum, Fee-Adjusted

69-07 69-90 90-98 98-01 01-07

Total 2.55 3.47 0.53 2.94 1.88

Medical 2.63 3.60 0.52 3.82 1.50

FFS 1.98 3.51 -0.53 1.15 0.50

APP 8.07 5.60 14.35 16.81 4.54

S&S&S** 6.01 5.60 7.92 16.24 0.17

FFS+3S 2.27 3.60 0.03 2.73 0.45

FFS+1/2 3S 2.13 3.56 -0.24 1.99 0.47

* Alternative Payment Programs

** Salaried, sessional, and service agreements (3S)

but are physicians in app as productive as those paid ffs
But are physicians in APP as “productive” as those paid FFS?
  • “FFS+3S” assumes that physicians paid by salary, sessional, and service agreements are equally productive (potential billings)
  • “FFS+1/2 3S” assumes (as an extreme) that they are only half as productive
  • Either way, the volume of physicians’ services per capita has been rising -- but how fast? Because APP activity is largely undocumented, we do not know
growth in b c physician prices relative to cpi
% Growth in B.C. Physician Prices Relative to CPI

69-07 69-90 90-98 98-01 01-07

Fees, -0.32 -0.47 -0.81 2.90 -0.75

APP Gain* 0.35 0.00 0.49 1.06 1.04

Total 0.02 -0.47 -0.32 3.99 0.28

*De facto price increase, from increases in APP not matched by service increases. “3S” activity assumed as productive as FFS.

growth in physician expenditures p c p a fee adjusted 1999 00 to 2005 06 cihi sources
% Growth in Physician Expenditures p.c.p.a., Fee-Adjusted, 1999/00 to 2005/06, CIHI sources

B.C. Ten Province

Total, NHexT 3.07 2.11

“Total”, NPDB 2.56 0.89

FFS, NPDB 0.54 -0.37

APP Clinical, NPDB 16.62 14.54

FFS+APPClin NPDB 2.71 1.79

Clin-NOC NPDB 1.10* 1.20*

Clin-NOC-.5 APPClin NPDB 0.84** 0.47**

*Northern and On Call payments removed as not service related.

**Half of other Clinical APP also removed as possibly less “productive”

so what do we we know
So what do we we know?

Payment to physicians have risen faster than payments for service programs, and much faster than payments for FFS

This implies that total prices paid per service have risen significantly faster than fee schedules – the previous slide is a minimum estimate

The estimated volume of physicians’ services provided, per capita, to British Columbians appears nevertheless to have gone up, but we have no way of being more precise

implications for management
Implications for management

Can’t do blind temporal comparisons with head in sand

Losing increasing amounts of management information over time

Information losses vary by region and specialty

Some of regions and specialties where information losses are greatest are of critical importance re: e.g. access

flashlight through the fog
Flashlight through the fog….

Challenge is to move back toward origin of management information ‘graph’

Create incentives for provision of accurate shadow billing data where not currently being provided

Advocate for management-friendly EMR (and access for management purposes)

ubc centre for health services and policy research
UBC Centre for HealthServices and Policy Research

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