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Promotion of Careers in Physics. Bill Zealey Learning Outcomes and Curriculum Development in Physics Project Leaders David Mills ( Monash ), Manjula Sharma ( Sydney ) Project Officer Alberto Mendez ( Sydney ). AUTC Paper Recommendations. Recommendation 4.1:

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promotion of careers in physics

Promotion of Careers in Physics

Bill Zealey

Learning Outcomes andCurriculumDevelopment inPhysics

Project Leaders

David Mills (Monash), Manjula Sharma ( Sydney)

Project Officer

Alberto Mendez ( Sydney)

autc paper recommendations
AUTC Paper Recommendations

Recommendation 4.1:

That physics departments and the AIP seek to identify and utilize effective methods to ensure thatgraduates are highly competent in the key generic skills.

Recommendation 4.2:

That physics departments and the AIP together with industry develop resources to help informstudents of physics and future careers.

Recommendation 4.3:

That physics departments consult with, and take advice from industry and employers in developingtheir curriculum.

where do our graduates go
Where Do Our Graduates Go

True or False

We train undergraduates to enter industry

A background in Physics is of great importance to Industry

Students enrol in a physics degree to gain employment in Industry

FALSE 57% of physics bachelors going into further full timestudy

FALSE key skill is problem solving

We actively recruit students with a view to entering research

what careers do our graduates seek
What Careers do our Graduates Seek?

57% of Physics graduates go into full timestudy.

Personal Case 1:

1: ASA Meeting 2005

ASA Decadal Review stressed training of Honours and postgraduate students in skills of use to industry.

Students present were very vocal on the fact that they wished to enter a research career.

Questions:

At what stage do students actively seek positions outside research?

Should we encourage them to consider careers in industry?

industry sector
Industry Sector
  • graduates are unlikely to identify themselves as physicists in the workplace
  • substantial fractionwith double degrees may further blur their identity asphysicists
industry sector7
Industry Sector

McInnis C, Hartley R and Anderson M, What Did You Do With Your Science Degree?, OccasionalPaper for the Australian Council of Deans of Science (ACDS), December (2000)

what skills are important employers views
What skills are ImportantEmployers views

Czujko R, The Physics Bachelors as a Passport to the Workplace: Recent Research Results,

a changing market for physics graduates
A Changing Market for Physics Graduates?
  • Changes in the past 20 years:
  • Student educational backgrounds have changed
  • Student expectations have changed
  • Students personal situations have changed
  • In response to declining numbers
  • We have introduced new technology oriented degrees
  • We have become more context oriented in early years
  • We continue to retain our standards through AIP accreditation

What major growth areas need Physicists over the next 15 years?

recommendation s 4 2 and 4 3
Recommendations 4.2 and 4.3

That physics departments and the AIP together with industrydevelop resources to help informstudents of physics and future careers.

That physics departments consult with, and take advice from industry and employers in developingtheir curriculum.

  • AIP and Schools of Physics work with NSW industries to identify industry needs

and develop new undergraduate and postgraduate programs e.g. ACPSEM Medical

Physics

  • Schools of Physics work closely with professional associations

Develop and accredit degree programs

Invite association representatives to deliver ethics/business management etc topics

  • Schools of Physics work more closely with Careers Services
  • More placements in Summer Vacation programs in industry

Currently ANU, U Sydney, CSIRO, AAO etc.

recommendation s 4 2 and 4 313
Recommendations 4.2 and 4.3

AIP and Schools of Physics more actively promote:

  • Industry Day
  • A Year out in Industry e.g. ANSTO
  • Annual workshop for undergraduates/ postgraduates in parallel with AIP

Congress

Schools of Physics actively promote:

  • Conjoint positions with industry/ government
  • Use of guest lecturers integrated into degree lecture programs
  • Interaction with IT, Engineering and Health and Behavioural Science Faculties in meeting demand for physics trained specialists in other disciplines.
  • School Advisory Committees which include alumni and CEOs of relevant

industries