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NOTICE : This presentation was given at the October 2007 “ Lunch N Learn ” at J&H Machine Tools in Charlotte. The presentation is meant to be viewed with the narration and detailed explanation of the presenter. Understanding True Position. Part 1 : Grasping the “ Basics ”. 1.00 ±0.01.

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  1. NOTICE : This presentation was given at the October 2007 “Lunch N Learn” at J&H Machine Tools in Charlotte. The presentation is meant to be viewed with the narration and detailed explanation of the presenter.

  2. Understanding True Position Part 1 : Grasping the “Basics”

  3. 1.00±0.01 2.00±0.01 The Part

  4. 1.99 2.01 1.01 0.99 1.00±0.01 2.00±0.01 The Tolerances

  5. 1.01 Part 1 Center Part 2 Center 0.99 1.99 2.01 The Tolerance Zone

  6. 1.01 Part 1 Center Part 2 Center 0.99 1.99 2.01 The Question… Which Part is Better?

  7. 1.01 Part 1 Center 0.99 1.99 2.01 Part 1 is within the tolerance zone, but…

  8. 1.01 Part 2 Center 0.99 1.99 2.01 Part 2 is closer to the Nominal Center and will assemble easier than Part 1

  9. How can we set up a tolerance band that fairly and functionally judges the position of features?

  10. 1.99 2.01 1.01 Part 1 Center Part 2 Center 0.99 Use a Circle instead of a Square!

  11. Definition Time!!! The result of a True Position Characteristic is the diameter of a circle, centered on the basic dimensions from the specified datums, that contains the actual center point.

  12. Mathematically Speaking…. True Position = ΔX2 + ΔY2 * 2 ΔX = Difference from Basic X value from Actual X value ΔY = Difference from Basic Y value from Actual Y value

  13. Diametral Zone Tolerance True Position Ø 0.01 A B C No Tolerances A Primary, Secondary, Tertiary Datums 1.00 2.00 B C New Part Print w/True Position

  14. Ø 0.01 A B C A 1.00 2.00 B C Here’s an Example Calculation

  15. Ø 0.01 A B C A Actual Measurements: X=2.003 Y=1.004 1.00 2.00 B C CAN WE SHIP IT?

  16. Actual X = 2.003 Actual Y=1.004 Basic X=2.000 Basic Y=1.000 Δ X = 0.003 Δ Y = 0.004 TP = 0.0032+0.0042 * 2 or TP = 0.009+0.016 * 2 or TP = 0.025 * 2 or TP = .005 * 2 so…..

  17. True Position = 0.010 Hole Center 0.005 from Nominal 0.005 True Position Result = 0.010 0.004 0.003 Nominal Center at X=2, Y=1 from Basic Dimensions

  18. YES, WE CAN! Ø 0.01 A B C A Our True Position is within the Specification…. Barely! 1.00 2.00 B C CAN WE SHIP IT?

  19. Let’s do this very example in Calypso and see if the math works out!

  20. This is a Theoretical feature with X Y coordinates placed exactly at 2.003 and 1.004.

  21. It Works!

  22. Ø 0.01 A B C A 1.00 2.00 B C Same Print, this time a “Real” Part

  23. On a “Real” Part: X= 1.9619 Y= 1.0081

  24. Actual X = 1.9619 Actual Y = 1.0081 Basic X = 2.000 Basic Y = 1.000 Δ X = -0.0381 Δ Y = 0.0081 TP = -0.03812+0.00812 * 2 or TP = 0.0015+0.0001 * 2 or TP = 0.0016 * 2 or TP = .0390 * 2 so…..

  25. True Position = 0.0779 Hole Center 0.0390 from Nominal 0.0390 0.0081 0.0381 True Position Result = 0.0779 Nominal Center at X=2, Y=1 from Basic Dimensions

  26. What???

  27. Explanation Time!!! The GD&T standard specifies that the FUNCTIONAL center be used for calculations. This means for a hole, that the Maximum Inscribed fit be used. Calypso does this automatically!

  28. Let’s see how this changes things.

  29. Watch out for Outliers!

  30. Now that we have that sorted out, ONE MORE TIME! X= 1.9504 Y= 1.0104

  31. Actual X = 1.9504 Actual Y = 1.0104 Basic X = 2.000 Basic Y = 1.000 Δ X = -0.0496 Δ Y = 0.0104 TP = -0.04962+0.01042 * 2 or TP = 0.0025+0.0001 * 2 or TP = 0.0026 * 2 or TP = .0507 * 2 so…..

  32. True Position = 0.1014 Hole Center 0.0507 from Nominal 0.0507 0.0104 0.0496 True Position Result = 0.1014 Nominal Center at X=2, Y=1 from Basic Dimensions

  33. YES!!!

  34. ONE MORE THING….. You might say : “So if True Position only gives me distance from center, how do I know how to make my offsets?”

  35. Turn on Additional Position Result in the Characteristic Settings Editor.

  36. You’ve got Questions, We have answers. Understanding True Position Part 1 : Grasping the “Basics”

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