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802.24 Vertical Applications TAG

802.24 Vertical Applications TAG. May 2016 Meeting Waikoloa, Hawaii, USA. 802.24 Overview. Officers TAG Chair: Tim Godfrey Secretary & TAG Vice Chair: Ben Rolfe Task Groups 802.24.1 Smart Grid TG Tim Godfrey 802.24.2 IoT TG Chris DiMinico 37 Voting Members

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802.24 Vertical Applications TAG

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  1. 802.24 Vertical Applications TAG May 2016 Meeting Waikoloa, Hawaii, USA Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  2. 802.24 Overview • Officers • TAG Chair: Tim Godfrey • Secretary & TAG Vice Chair: Ben Rolfe • Task Groups • 802.24.1 Smart Grid TG Tim Godfrey • 802.24.2 IoT TG Chris DiMinico • 37 Voting Members • Agenda: 24-16-0014-00-0000 • Meetings for the Week • Monday PM2 • Tuesday PM2 • Wednesday PM2 (cancelled unless new business) • Manual attendance tracking for 802.1 & 802.3 members

  3. Agenda - 24-16-0014-00-0000 Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  4. Guidelines for IEEE-SA Meetings • All IEEE-SA standards meetings shall be conducted in compliance with all applicable laws, including antitrust and competition laws. • Don’t discuss the interpretation, validity, or essentiality of patents/patent claims. • Don’t discuss specific license rates, terms, or conditions. • Relative costs, including licensing costs of essential patent claims, of different technical approaches may be discussed in standards development meetings. • Technical considerations remain primary focus • Don’t discuss or engage in the fixing of product prices, allocation of customers, or division of sales markets. • Don’t discuss the status or substance of ongoing or threatened litigation. • Don’t be silent if inappropriate topics are discussed… do formally object. --------------------------------------------------------------- If you have questions, contact the IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee Administrator at patcom@ieee.org or visit http://standards.ieee.org/about/sasb/patcom/index.html See IEEE-SA Standards Board Operations Manual, clause 5.3.10 and “Promoting Competition and Innovation: What You Need to Know about the IEEE Standards Association's Antitrust and Competition Policy” for more details. This slide set is available at https://development.standards.ieee.org/myproject/Public/mytools/mob/preparslides.ppt March 2015 IEEE-SA Standards Board Patent Committee

  5. Administration • Attendance take on IMAT • Reciprocal rights for most WGs • Web page • http://www.ieee802.org/24 • Mailing list • stds-802-24@listserv.ieee.org • 802-24-voters@listserv.ieee.org (voters list) • Document archive • http://mentor.ieee.org/802.24/documents • IEEE 802 announcement reflector, stds-802-all@listserv.ieee.org • Send email to listserv@listserv.ieee.org with no subject and with the • following 2 lines appearing first in the body of the message Subscribe stds-802-all end Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  6. Monday: 802.24 TAG • Approve March minutes • 24-16-00010-00-0000 • Action Items: • None Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  7. Monday 802.24.1 Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  8. New Liaisons and Industry Activity relevant to 802.24.1 • Are there any new utility industry activities or organizations that could benefit from a liaison to 802.24? • Useful Output: Identify the use cases that the standards serve, and provide them to the industry. • That can then define who is an appropriate liaison • Need to educate and inform liaisons to gather needs and requirements with respect to IEEE 802 projects. Identify the tools we have available, and present the available toolbox. Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  9. 802C and 802.15 LLC (ULI) • New Topic: • 802C and 802.15 LLC (ULI) and implications on overall network integration of 802 for grid applications • Incorporation of 802.15.9 • What is needed at layer 2 to enable routing at layer 3? • How is 6lowpan applied? E.G. in WiSUN. • Is there a value to develop a white paper? • It may be too early – there is not a clear direction yet. • Address mapping issue – or it may be passed to higher layers. • This may tie into deterministic networking topic and prioritized delivery. • Multicast – mapping IP onto 802 network. (relation to 802.21d ?) • Multicast for 802.15.4 that doesn’t have explicit multicast • Better convergence and support for IP. • Action Plan • Consider specific inputs. Make a submission now to provide input to PAR • Plan to submit comments on PAR Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  10. Discussion on ULI • Eventually, we can explain how it relates to the rest of 802, and better integration. Well defined ways of integrating. • Take this up when there is a draft. Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  11. Spectrum topics • 802.15.4s SMR – spectrum management resources • Can 802.24 provide an input with respect to Smart Grid or IoT? • IEC 65C WG 17 dealing with coexistence management and spectrum policy • ETSI TCRRS reconfigurable radio systems • ETSI TCERM WG 41 – defining a central coordination point to handle spectrum. • Sharing and increasing coexistence and providing better QoS • Coordinate with 802.22.3 • Action Plan: • This fits into the ULI initiative. • 4s resource management is defined, but now how they are used • White paper could cover how adaptation and resource management are accomplished. • Including use of metrics for management. Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  12. Cellular comparisons • White paper on NB-LTE, Cellular IoT, LTE-U vs IEEE 802 standards in smart grid applications. • Technical comparisons • Potential coexistence issues • Matt Gillmore Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  13. Cellular comparisons white paper outline • Types of applications that are considered in the white paper • Survey of existing and emerging technologies used by cellular operators • 3G, 4G, 5G (broadband and C-IoT and NB-LTE variants, LAA, LTE-U) • Understand how new technologies focused on IoT are differentiated and how they relate to 802 standards • Survey of IEEE 802 wireless technologies used for grid applications • 802.11, 802.15, 802.16, 802.22 • Refer to existing white paper, and PAP2 • Matrices of differences (maybe, but not exclusively pros and cons) • Data volume • Security considerations (link vs application layer) • Do we have sufficient information on commercial cellular security? • Reliability and availability • Availability of SLAs, QoS, and other service level considerations • Management and metrics • Provisioning and device deployment • Operational expense vs capital expense considerations • Unlicensed vs licensed spectrum • Potential coexistence issues • Further explanation and notes on matrix Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  14. General discussion • White paper doesn’t try to make a recommendation or judgement, but provides facts • Targeted towards vendors and user of the standards • Industrial automation is also considering 3G, 4G, and 5G option. • Actions: • Review outline and comment • Tuesday, seek volunteers for paragraph contributions Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  15. Tuesday Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  16. Review Cellular comparisons white paper outline • Volunteers for sections of text • Ludwig can provide reference to Industrial Automation (Industry 4.0) requirements. Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  17. P2413 IoT Framework Liaison Report • Liaison with IIC is working on aligning use cases. Cooperating with GTC1 WG10 IoT framework. • Draft of P2413 is progressing. • Discussion - Value of 802.24 white paper on IoT and P2413? • Maybe more towards completion of P2413? Agnostic to underlying communications. Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  18. P2030.5 Liaison Report • Working on revision to P2030.5-2013 • Focused on new essential functionality for Rule 21 in CA. Smart Inverters and charging stations. • Also addressing CCBs from ZigBee SEP2 • Timeline: • Goal – Sponsor Ballot in Sept 2016. • Weekly editors calls to work on draft • Non-IEEE aspect - Certification program • CSEP had previously develop test and cert plan, but CSEP ended. • P2030.5 will re-establish certification programs • Some updating of CSEP test plan will be required Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  19. Development of sub 1 GHz White Paper • Draft from March: 24-15-0029r5 • Open Areas: • Sub-1GHz Applications Open • Global regulatory environment John Notor? • Need text or a reference to external sources for pros and cons of mesh vs repeater Open (in process) • Updates from May meeting in r6 • 24-15-0029r7 On the server • Updates Wednesday will be in R8 • Uploaded with changes accepted Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  20. Student Paper Competition • Winner notified • MearegAbreha from Ethiopia • Paper Title “History and implementation of the IEEE 802 security architecture” • Planning for presentation in July • Perhaps early tutorial slot on Tuesday? • Or 802.11 midweek plenary • Publicity: • Announcement is scheduled to be posted in the SA blog on 24 May • Plan to include on IEEE 802 web page Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  21. Student Paper Competition • For Discussion • How many days at hotel • Sunday thru Wed night. • Seek extra travel funding from IEEE educational committee • 802.24 agrees that the 802 EC seeks funding from IEEE, or otherwise, provide additional funds for the travel stipend • Do we consider another contest in the future? • Yes, but with better advertisement. Direct outreach to specific universities. • Still a worthwhile idea • If so, how can publicity be improved to get better participation? • More one-to-one contact with universities and professors – members can suggest points of contact • Suggestion to not have contest over end of year / holiday break time. Should be mid-semester. • Change incentives to be more attractive – opportunity to present rather travel? • Actions • Get hotel reservations in place for Meareg. (Dawn) • Seek additional funding for travel stipend • Get EC approval for 4 nights in hotel • Attendance waiver • Finalize paper presentation day and time Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  22. 802.24 TAG closing • Capture action Items from this meeting • Sub GHz white paper: Intro section on range (Ben), Regulatory section (John Notor) • Tim – turn slide into outline document and post • Volunteers for content – none at this time. • Any New Business? • IEEE SA Education Committee – eZine request. Forward to reflector. Due July 1st. Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  23. Adjourn Tim Godfrey, EPRI

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