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802.24 Vertical Applications TAG

802.24 Vertical Applications TAG. November 2017 Closing Report Orlando, FL, USA. 802.24 Overview. Officers TAG Chair: Tim Godfrey Secretary & TAG Vice Chair: Ben Rolfe Task Groups 802.24.1 Smart Grid TG Tim Godfrey 802.24.2 IoT TG Chris DiMinico 34 Voting Members

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802.24 Vertical Applications TAG

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  1. 802.24 Vertical Applications TAG November 2017 Closing Report Orlando, FL, USA Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  2. 802.24 Overview • Officers • TAG Chair: Tim Godfrey • Secretary & TAG Vice Chair: Ben Rolfe • Task Groups • 802.24.1 Smart Grid TG Tim Godfrey • 802.24.2 IoT TG Chris DiMinico • 34 Voting Members • Agenda: 24-17-0024-01-0000 • Meetings for the Week • Monday PM2 24.1 • Tuesday PM2 24.2 • Wednesday PM2 24.1 4:00 with 802.19, 5:00 802.1 TSN • Manual attendance tracking for 802.1 & 802.3 members

  3. Agenda – 802.24-17-0024r1 Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  4. Monday: 802.24 TAG • Approved September minutes • 24-17-0027r0 • Unanimous Consent • TAG Action Items from July / September: • Plan TSN teleconference (October) • Did not happen – pick up at this meeting • Coordinate with Wael on Wi-Fi Alliance Liaison • Review IoT MSTG Use Case Document (Henry Chiarelli) • Set up Private Area for exchanging documents under Liaison (done) Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  5. Monday 802.24.1 Smart Grid TG Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  6. Finalize PAP2 Wireless Matrix • Current Status: • Latest version 802.24-17-0004r6 • Pinged 802.11 last week for spectrum efficiency values • Osama will review with 802.11ax group • SEPA/SGIP Study Group has been formed for Matrix update • 802.24 output will provide update for 802 standards • Other standards’ contributors may provide additional updates Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  7. SEPA/SGIP update WG • Membership (established by SEPA) • Tim Godfrey EPRI • Ron Cunningham AEP • Doug Gray TCS • Bill Godwin Duke Energy • Matt Gilmore Itron • Gerald Gray EPRI • Planning first call next week, Nov 13 Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  8. Sub 1 GHz Publishing • IEEE staff (Catherine Berger) has edited our final draft and provided proposed revisions • 24-16-0036-00-0000-sub-1-ghz-white-paper_TAGreview1 • Posted as 24-17-0029r0 • TAG action: Review and approve • Edited version in 24-16-0036-01-0000-sub-1-ghz-white-paper_TAGreview1 • Final version after review to be sent back via Jonathan Goldberg Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  9. 802.11 AANI SC • Discussion in 802.11 AANI SC • Advanced Access Network Interface Standing Committee • Response to IEEE 5G white paper • https://5g.ieee.org/images/files/pdf/ieee-5g-roadmap-white-paper.pdf • AANI wants to generate a response • Key question: • Is 802.11 (and more broadly IEEE 802) going to be more than a “component” of future networks that are controlled by 3GPP? • Would 802.24 participants like to contribute (assuming 802.11 also contributes) if an all-802 response and white paper content is requested? • No objection Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  10. Future plans (Nov 2017 Updates) • Monitor the LPWAN IG in 802.15 to see where it goes (and links to IETF) • Starting SG – amendment to 802.15.4, utilizing pieces for LPWAN • Develop an 802-based alternative to proprietary LPWAN’s • Applying new bands and channel plans • 802.15.4u and 802.15.4v completed. Add bands in various regions for existing 802.15.4 PHYs commonly used in smart grid. • IG on OFDM – • Will result in a new amendment for 802.15.4: Filling the blanks in the OFDM PHY. PAR in March, TG meeting in March/May. • Action: Late 2018: Plan update of first smart grid white paper to address latest amendments of 802.15.4 Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  11. Tuesday 802.24.2IoT TG Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  12. Tuesday: 802.24.2 • 802.24.2 Liaison Coordinator's Report • Wael Diab (not present) • IIC Liaison Report • Any new liaison requests • Request to explore liaison with Wi-Fi Alliance IoT Group. • 802.24 will initiate the liaison request • Action Wael – draft a formal liaison statement with areas of collaboration and exchange. • Suggested: IoT Market Segment Task Group • Challenges – information exchange will need to be cleared of default confidentiality of WFA documents. Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  13. 802.24 Private Area • Drafts and other documents provided under liaison agreements are available here for use by 802.24 members: • http://grouper.ieee.org/groups/802/24/private/ The P2413 draft is currently available • For access credentials, please contact the 802.24 Chair or Vice-chair Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  14. 802.24.2 • P2413 Liaison Report and Draft Review • Ludwig Winkel • Relationship to 24.2 IoT White Paper • Can be use to explain to the 802 community how 802 fits into the overall IoT architecture Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  15. 802.24.2 • Review and plan IoT white paper development • Chris DiMinico • Discussion on IoT White Paper Draft • Contributions towards IoT White Paper • Wi-Fi Alliance IoT Use Case Document Review • Pending establishment of liaison • Chris intends to submit proposal for a 802.24.2 IoT Tutorial in March 2018 Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  16. Wednesday 802.24 / 802.19Joint Session Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  17. Coexistence 802.15.4g and 802.11ah • Review and discuss document 19-17-0087r2 • Simulation scenario shows impact of 802.11ah on 802.15.4g operation. Suggestion that a coexistence mechanism may be needed • Follow up meetings in 802.19 will investigate. Results may lead to updating of 802.24’s Sub-1GHz white paper. Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  18. Wednesday 802.24.1 Smart Grid TG802.1 TSN Joint Working Session Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  19. Update on TSN white paper • Notes from July: • Leads for developing text contributions: • Janos Farkas – section on “Describe how TSN works” • Maik Seewald – section on “Understand IEC 61850 activities and relationships” • Karl Weber – section on DER and stabilizing networks with reactive power control. • Rodney Cummings – “how TSN features make use of time sync protocols” • Updated version after initial merge of Norm Finn contribution • 802.24-17-0006r10 • Norm’s text in purple • “How it works”, “Appendix 1 – Standards Summary” • Maik’s text contribution re-inserted • Challenge is reducing excellent content to more manageable size for this white paper. Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  20. Next Steps • Continue merging and condensing content from Norm Finn • Merge content related to time synchronization • Other text contributions from 802.1 TSN? • Document contribution from Rodney Cummings possible • Review IETF DetNet use cases – incorporate others as appropriate • Teleconference in January • January Interim not all-802. • Another updating cycle before March plenary? • 802.1 interim is Jan 22-26. • Plan on call week of Jan 29 (follow up and announce on reflect) • Avoid Tuesday and Thursday mid-day EST Tim Godfrey, EPRI

  21. 802.24 TAG closing • Action Items from this meeting • Plan TSN teleconference • Forward reviewed Sub-1GHz white paper for publishing Tim Godfrey, EPRI

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