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Early Thoughts on the Reference Design Report. Peter H. Garbincius for the GDE Design / Cost Board. Barry showed the overall organization for RDR yesterday:. GDE Design/Cost Board:. Peter H. Garbincius*, Chairman, Wilhelm Bialowons*, Atsushi Enomoto, Jean-Pierre Delahaye,Robert Kephart,

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Early thoughts on the reference design report

Early Thoughts on theReference Design Report

Peter H. Garbincius

for the

GDE Design / Cost Board

ILC-GDE Fracati, Italy



Gde design cost board
GDE Design/Cost Board:

Peter H. Garbincius*, Chairman,

Wilhelm Bialowons*, Atsushi Enomoto,

Jean-Pierre Delahaye,Robert Kephart,

Olivier Napoly, Ewan Paterson,

Nan Phinney, Tetsuo Shidara*, and

Nobuhiro Terunuma

(* = Cost Engineering Group)

With backup by the Accelerator Physics Group:

Tor Raubenheimer, Nick Walker, Kaoru Yokoya

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Design cost board mission statement again from barry yesterday
Design / Cost BoardMission Statementagain, from Barry, yesterday

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Preparation of the reference design report
Preparation of the Reference Design Report

  • Design Cost Board will provide guidance and structure, define depth requirements for the elements of cost effort, develop, advise, lead, review, and manage the preparation of RDR.

  • Area Systems Groups are led by full-time teams, coordinate Technical & Global System Groups, and are responsible for providing detailed designs, text, and cost estimates

  • Work together with Change Control Board, R&D Board, and Cost Engineering Team

  • Final Publication Deadline: end of 2006

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Interaction w area system groups
Interaction w Area System Groups

  • DCB soon has to tell them what we need.

  • Gotta make sure they have the

    manpower resources to do the job

    on the needed schedule.

  • Determine scope, schedules, goals,

    and deliverables.

    DCB definitely reviews and approves!

    will require monthly reports

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The rdr design matrix
the RDR Design Matrix

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One line attributes for cost est
one-line attributes for cost est.

  • inclusive – can’t neglect anything important

  • “parametric” – quantities, escalation, overheads, labor rates, cost vs size or performance (e.g. gradient)

  • Barry - how does cost vary with a performance parameter? e.g. # bunches?

  • bottom-up – some elements, but many

    will be top-down, scaled, parametric, etc.

  • flexible – easily follow any scope changes !!!

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Global issues will be important thanks jonathan
Global issues will be important thanks Jonathan!

  • Can’t leave anything out: follow all items from conception, design, procurement, testing, inventory, material handling, installation, commissioning…

  • Be careful at boundaries, interfaces, and hand-offs between groups & systems

  • Performance requirements & specs will determine engineering effort at cost

  • Make sure you specify what you need, but don’t over-specify (driving up costs)

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Quality of evolving cost estimate
Quality of evolving cost estimate

  • Use whatever we have at any given time:

    e.g. today we have TESLA TDR & USLCTOS

  • Update as new and better info is available

    a “living” document

  • Need to carry along status & date of estimate

    & “basis of estimate” tag for each element

  • Goal is to get adequate and sufficient cost

    estimate for RDR deadline

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We do have some prior examples
We do have some prior examples

  • NLC Copper Book, TESLA TDR, GLC,

    and the USLC Options Study

  • We should review the approach

    and adopt what is good

    while improving what is not

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Early thoughts on the reference design report
Tor sent suggested WBS - PHG updated (112 active cost packages at this time)will expand to > 1000 internal elements

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Ok what did we leave out what do we do next
OK, what did we leave out, what do we do next?

  • Exploit our collective project management experience, both within and external to ILC

  • Your input and collective wisdom

    are vital elements in this process!

    Please help us prepare the RDR!

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End presentation backup slides to follow
End Presentation Backup Slides to Follow

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What information do we need
What information do we need?

  • Scope (text/pix), Cost Estimates, Schedule

  • Schedule – input to cost estimates, e.g.

    needing 600 klystrons over 5 years

    may be substantially more expensive

    than same 600 klystrons over 8 years

  • Two funding models: (differ betw regions)

    technically limited (no time constraint)

    or flat funding – same # $ per year

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Cost estimate elements
Cost Estimate Elements

  • How many parallel estimates do we need (from Asia, Americas, Europe)?

    3 or 4 or 5 site studies!

  • How do you handle multiple inputs into

    determining “value”?

  • World-market cost for common items,

    must do studies for unique elements

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Industrial cost estimate studies
Industrial Cost Estimate Studies

  • TESLA – content and cost estimates confidential

    Dieter Trines promised copy of tender for studies

    I requested reports without costs – did not say yes/no

  • XFEL – will have CryoModule Assembly and

    RF Coupler studies back by mid-2006

    content will be public, cost est confidential

    B. Petersen & T. Garvey will send copies of tender

  • U.S. Studies – cavities, CM, coupler, CFS ?

    not before latter half of 2006 at earliest

  • Asian Studies – content and status?

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Will industrial studies be useful
Will Industrial Studies be useful?

  • Will they be in time to be useful for RDR?

  • Will we get any lower level cost estimates?

    or just total cost of XFEL Main Linac?

  • How can we insure confidentiality of

    sensitive cost information?

    We surely don’t want to bias XFEL bidding!

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Nitty gritty
Nitty-Gritty

  • What is in/out of cost estimate?

  • How do we present cost/value?

    as the lowest value (world-market)

    average value, range of estimate, probabilistic? 90% CL?

  • What about different SITE-dependent ests?

  • Gotta DOCUMENT what we are presenting & provide a translation guide for each region

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Wws group led by hitoshi yamamoto and jim brau
WWS Group led by Hitoshi Yamamoto and Jim Brau

  • Preparing major physics sections:

    • The Physics case for the ILC

    • Detectors – incorporating 3 ideas

    • Simulations of machine & detector interaction:

      • Detector performance, resolution, backgrounds

        initially using model of beam: phase space,

        momentum spread, disruption, etc.

        will soon need fully simulated beam

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Value rather than cost approach
Value (rather than cost) approach

  • Value is worth to the ILC project,

    rather than worth to contributing country

  • Approach developed by ITER (R. Aymar)

    vetted through Dan Lehman (US DOE)

  • Countries bid to provide some piece of

    project and not funds. Internally apply their own overheads, contingency, and labor rates

    to determine their cost, without changing value

  • Yes, ITER has common fund (some % of value assessment–acts as management contingency)

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Iter used 100 cost packages
ITER used 100 cost packages

  • ITER assigned “value units” to only

    ~ 100 cost packages

    a pretty high level WBS roll-up

    many more lower level items

    had to have been cost estimated

    and rolled-up to form these packages

  • upon which member countries could bid

  • Does that number make sense for ILC-RDR?

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Although some people will tell you that they know exactly how we should define value
Although some people will tell you that they know exactly how we should define “value”,

  • I don’t think we can possibly know at this beginning stage.

  • We don’t want to leave anything out, or close avenues, so we should gather all reasonable information from multiple studies, and combine/average/select only when we better understand the trade-offs of how to present cost or value.

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Program management tools
Program Management Tools how we should define “value”,

  • for Project Definition: EXCEL, SLAC WBS, MS Project

  • we will eventually need to migrate to a more powerful,

    integrated cost & schedule management system

  • Primavera is the choice at SLAC, ANL, JLab,

    but not at Fermilab, DESY, KEK, CERN, DESY

    maybe not so useful for project definition

    costs: licenses, business computing support

    “experts” (consultants), users (us)

    learning curves for us

    using sophisticated tool will show that we are serious players

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