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  1. Google Apps and the like… Common Solutions Group Fall 2007 Meeting @MIT

  2. Workshop Team • Steve Worona, Educause • Bruce Vincent, Stanford • Donna E. Tatro, Princeton • Dennis M Maloney, CU-Boulder • Jim Jokl, Virginia • Klara Jelinkova, Duke • Jim Phelps, UW, Madison (for doing our survey)

  3. Agenda • 1:30 Introduction - Dennis Maloney & Jim Jokl • 2:00 Policy issues - Steve Worona • 2:30 Survey and sage thoughts - Bruce Vincent • 3:00 Break • 3:30 Discussion, Klara Jelinkova and Donna Tatro • 5:30 Adjourn

  4. “Goggle Apps and like” is: • Primarily for student email • No-fee email and calendaring • The way to save/repurpose $$$s • Up-to-date feature set • Improved services • Software as a Service (SaaS) – tbd • One-way street?

  5. Gartner - May 12, 2006 report • “By 2010, the majority of student and alumni mailboxes will be provided by public portal sites on a no-fee, hosted basis (0.7 probability)” • PROs • No-fee service • Large percentage of students forward to personal email accounts • Student email/calendaring feature set needs are limited • Ajax-based client with IM, social software, etc • CONs • Limited email/calendaring feature set • Uptime guarantees • Service support • Security and Privacy • FERPA

  6. Marketplace Players • Google • Microsoft • Mirapoint • Zimbra, oops, now Yahoo… • Yahoo • No institutional email…

  7. Players Motivation* • Targeting email accounts for life • Highly desirable demographic • Site anchor for selling other services • Email viewed as launch point for exposure to social networking apps • Application exposure ~ pull-through *Gartner report

  8. Comparison of Google and Microsoft*

  9. Decision Points • Opportunity and real costs • Client-driven service model • IdM • Security • Privacy • Functionality, features, and services • Promise of SaaS

  10. Interesting note from our IA • Google. • In particular Google apps that store things online, make them public, and default to public access – I hear this is a problem with Google Presentations. • The price is right for HE, so it will be used.  Making sure sensitive info doesn’t get there is a definite problem – user behavior control is the stiffest of challenges. • Managing tools like this, and like “Connect to my PC” or other Web hosted services will be a challenge, and most users will not be able to evaluate the risk – but the price is right, so they will flock to many of these. • Just an add-on to the discussion from the other day.  How do you stay ahead of right-priced and undoubtedly useful apps with serious security side-effects?  Who tests/buys/evaluates/etc.?   Seems like a great opportunity for a center/research function somewhere that everyone can chip in on and share results, although I suppose SANS and some of the orgs probably serve part of this function.  Timeliness and relevancy to local issues is the problem area with such a service. • Cheer, • Your friendly IA IT guy

  11. And Here’s Jim…

  12. The UVa Announcement • Student email will be migrated to commercial providers next semester • Two new choices available • Google Apps for Education • Microsoft Windows Live @ EDU • Students will be able to continue to forward their email wherever they want

  13. Messaging at Virginia • Background: Existing Environment • IMAP infrastructure with WebMail and POP access to the message store • Multiple email clients supported • IronPort anti-spam very effective • 2 GB quotas for students • 50 MB maximum message size • Oracle calendar licensed for students • Small percentage of off-site forwards

  14. Some Reactions at Virginia • “Rarely is a decision by the University met with near universal praise. The decision to outsource student e-mail accounts to Google and Microsoft might be the exception.” • “There is some concern among students that services like Gmail and Microsoft Live are less private than WebMail. To an extent, though, the students who worry about Google reading their e-mail are the same ones who play Pink Floyd albums backwards and complain about Martians reading their thoughts between reruns of The X-Files.”

  15. Some Reactions at Virginia • “Students exceedingly concerned with keeping their correspondence secret should forgo e-mail altogether and use the old fashioned method of invisible ink and dead drop sites. Everyone else may rest assured that Gmail's privacy policy is no different than that of WebMail or any other popular service provider.”

  16. Some Reactions at Virginia • “It would be better if the University continued to provide traditional e-mail service for current students itself.” • Concern of potential future changes in policy (e.g., stopping POP and holding your email hostage) • Recommends using POP and keeping a copy of your own email locally • Suggests students also consider providers other than Google or Microsoft

  17. Key Features & Limitations(beyond applications) • @third.yourdomain.edu addresses • White-list control to enable guaranteed delivery of messages to/from students • Permanent email addresses that do not change when Students transition to Alumni • Single sign-on integration • Limitations: • 20 MB maximum message size • Migration tools • Advertising displayed for Alumni

  18. Provisioning and Mail Routing How It (will) Work Main UVa Email Routing System User EnterpriseLDAP Directory PubCookie New 3rd Level Alias and Forwarding Management Application RemoteServiceAPI ProvisioningTrigger

  19. Windows Live @ edu Integration

  20. Google Apps for Education Integration

  21. Shibboleth Integration • Google Apps for Education • Their response to us was no for Shibboleth 1.3 • Shibboleth 2.0 integration tested by USC • Windows Live @ edu • Demonstration code of Windows Live integration via ADFS exists • Work done by University of Missouri and Oxford Computer Group

  22. Some References • Google Apps for Education • http://www.google.com/a/edu/ • http://code.google.com/apis/apps/start.html • Microsoft Windows Live @ edu • http://get.live.com/edu • http://get.live.com/edu/sysreq