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When Mud Is Not The Answer

When Mud Is Not The Answer. Applications where Fastcrete should be used in place of mud. When Speed Is Required. Traditional mud (mortar-bed, dry pack, deck mud, etc.) requires a curing period of at least 12 hours

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When Mud Is Not The Answer

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  1. When Mud Is Not The Answer Applications where Fastcrete should be used in place of mud

  2. When Speed Is Required Traditional mud (mortar-bed, dry pack, deck mud, etc.) requires a curing period of at least 12 hours Fastcrete is sufficiently hard enough to set tile within 1 hour. Applications such as shower pans and bathrooms can be leveled, pitched, and tiled the same day

  3. Mud Pan Built out of Fastcrete

  4. For Thin Applications In most instances mud jobs range in thickness from 1.25” to 2”. Mud jobs thinner than this are prone to delamination and failure Fastcrete applications can range in thickness from 1/8” to 3”

  5. When There Are Height Restrictions Mud requires a minimum thickness of more than an inch. This can pose problems with finished height such as: • Doorways • Transitions • Drains

  6. Fastcrete Application Feathered To High Spot Fastcrete Feathered at High Spot Heavy Fastcrete Fill Unaffected Doorway Height High Spot Concrete Slab

  7. Mud Application Raised Over High Spot Thick Mud Bed Over High Spot Heavy Mud Fill Affected Doorway Height High Spot Concrete Slab

  8. When It Needs To Be Feathered Mud cannot be brought to a featheredge. When mud is applied too thin, it is subject to: • Cracking • Delamination • Breaking Apart

  9. Hanging Level Wall Tile From Top Fastcrete Used To Feather Out Low Spots in Slab Fastcrete will not crack, delaminate or break apart when feathered out

  10. Feathering Out Low Spots In Slab With Mud Mud will crack, delaminate and break apart when approaching a featheredge

  11. When Logistics Become A Problem Mud requires: -Large mixing area -Usually two people mixing -Bulk sand -94lb bags of Portland Cement Fastcrete requires: -One person and a drill/paddle mixer

  12. Drawbacks To Other Methods

  13. Method #1 Flashing with Thin Set Mortar • Takes a day to dry • Bubbles • Cracks when applied thick • Needs to be stoned smooth

  14. Method #2 Mud The Entire Area • Requires a day to cure • Requires much more material than necessary • Poses logistical problems • May cause issues with finished heights • May cause weight/load issues

  15. Method #3Don’t Level And Try To Correct By Building Up The Tiles With Thin Set • Takes at least three times longer • Essentially turns a ceramic tile job into a marble job • Heavy thin-set applications take longer to cure

  16. Trying to Correct The Substrate By Building Up The Tiles With Thin Set

  17. Don’t just take our word for it…

  18. Fastcrete Application With Peter Guarino, Port Morris Tile, Boston Application Type: Feathering To High Spot In Center

  19. Fastcrete Application With Ed Callabritto, Port Morris Tile, Boston Application Type: Thin Fill/Ramping

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