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International Medical Graduates of Idaho Meeting Notes

This meeting discusses possible next steps for IMGs in Idaho, including options for collective study groups, exploring the dentist model for license exams, advocating for IMGs, and expanding support for WWAMI medical students.

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International Medical Graduates of Idaho Meeting Notes

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  1. International Medical Graduates of Idaho Meeting Notes February 28th, 2015

  2. Possible Next Steps • Develop collective study group options for USMLE; spread cost of study tools • Explore more about dentist model of taking US License Exam and then returning to medical school for 1-2 years to get the clinical experience – requires support from medical school • Invite US doctors to join the group and get involved in the conversation • Additional perspective • Figure out a more accessible model for doctor shadowing for individuals (US doctors are aware of how it works for program/system, but not for individuals) • Investigate expansion of WWAMI medical student support • Figure out how to be a state advocacy on behalf of IMG of Idaho - Two doctors from WWAMI presented to the legislature on the need for more doctors in Idaho – Nathanial will send the names • Develop a case that articulates the benefit(s) for the State of Idaho to use tax payer dollars to expand WWAMI, in part, to support IMG path to medical relicense in Idaho – For example… • IMG of Idaho are doctors who are more likely to stay, whereas others will leave to other states to practice • IMG of Idaho doctors have extensive experience (i.e.,100 patients/surgeries a day in a war zone for two year straight is more than most US surgeons might see in a career) • Invite other key contacts related to WWAMI, VA, University of Washington medical school to present to IMG of Idaho group

  3. There are 3 Types of International Medical Graduates (IMG) • US IMG • Country Sponsored IMG • Refugee IMG • US Citizen • Planned to attend International Medical School • Goal is practice in US • Competitive in ERAS and w/ AMG • Wealthy countries partner with universities and hospitals - i.e., Gulf countries like Saudi Arabia, UAE, etc.. • Goal is practice in US • IMG but due to partnerships, students train/research in US & its paid by home country gov’t • US residency salary paid by home country gov’t • Competitive in ERAS & Match w/ AMG • Immigrated to US for safety due to unrest in home country • Never planned to come to US to practice medicine • Multiple barriers to get into a US residency program • - Certified credentials • - ERAS preference ranking • - US clinical experience • - Time since graduation from med school

  4. Traditional Path to Medical License: AMG vs. IMG • American • Medical Graduate • (AMG) • Goes through National Medical Board Examination (NMBE) /American Medical Association (AMA) • Electronic Residency Application System (ERAS) • Match/ Interview Selections • Residency • United States Medical License Exam (USMLE) • 1. 1.Basic science, written - 13 system / 10 disciplines • 2. Clinical science - written & practical • 3. General Medical Knowledge Looks easy…it’s NOT if you are a IMG that is a refugee! Vs. • United States Medical License Exam (USMLE) • 1.Basic science, written - 13 systems/ 10disciplines. • 2. Clinical science - written & practical • 3. General Medical Knowledge • International • Medical Graduate (IMG) • NOT NMBE/AMA • Instead, Education Commission for Foreign Medical Graduates (ECGMG) • Electronic Residency Application System (ERAS) • Match/ Interview Selections • Residency Here is where the REAL CHALLENGE LIES… Selection Priority: 1) AMG 2) US IMG 3) Non-US IMG Selection preferences: highUSMLE Score, time since graduation to USMLE, clinical experience in US, recommendations from US doctors. Publication, Master and/or PhD Median USMLE Score is 220-225; IMG needs 240-245 to help even the playing field Arrive to US Credential Evaluation Unstable home country = long process (YEARS!) IMG is not getting ANY Clinical Hands-on Experience in US during this time NOT COMPETITIVE In ERAS & Match despite years of actually practicing medicine

  5. International Medical Graduate (IMG) Barriers to Medical Residency • Not fresh medical school graduates • Process for getting foreign credentials evaluated can be long, particularly if issuing body is an unstable country with political unrest • Time between graduation date and USMLE • Time from ECFMG to USMLE w/o hands-on experience with patients since arriving to US • Lack of recommendations and/or recommendations that are relevant to program directors (i.e., demonstrates candidate’s competencies against residency program standards) • US medical students often have dual degree options (i.e., Medicine + PhD., Medicine + Masters, etc.) – IMGs lack this option • Doctors’ salary in residency in US is paid by Accreditation Council Graduate for Medical Education (ACGME) • Fund from ACGME comes from Medicare (tax payers’ $$), so there is A LOT of policy associated with this. • Residency Programs not motivate to take risk (go outside the bounds of traditional ranking) because they need maintain their program standards to maintain accreditation – ACGME requires an 80% medical boards pass rate • Physicians Assistant program is a alternative path BUT it proves challenging as well. • Program sees through motivation to become a practicing MD as opposed to a PA which can impact acceptance into program • Other??

  6. Resources to Explore • A excellent new report from Massachusetts on the role of immigrant healthcare professionals. Includes 4 recommendations to improve opportunities for IMGs and the US healthcare system and economy. • http://www.miracoalition.org/images/stories/gac_task_force_report_final-12.18.14.pdf.   • A new advisory issued by ECFMG warning IMGs about new organizations that are illegitimately posing as certification agencies:   • http://origin.library.constantcontact.com/download/get/file/1113015049867-299/ECFMG-release-Sep-16-2014.pdf • Accelerated Nurse Practitioner program at Florida International University  • http://fep.fiu.edu/, • Accelerated Nursing program at Idaho State University • http://www.isu.edu/nursing/accelerated.shtml • Medscape report about the resident Salary and Debt 2014; slides, 2, 6, 10 & 28 provide a good snapshot • http://www.medscape.com/features/slideshow/public/residents-salary-and-debt-report#1 • ACGME website:  • https://www.acgme.org/acgmeweb/

  7. Current Options to Get Doctor Interactions/ Clinical Experience/ Doctor Recommendations • IMG Prep- can be valuable experience & only requires passing 1 step in USMLE to participate BUT… • Expensive (to cover salary and liability insurance to allow for patient interactions) • Mostly focused in east coast • Limited selection of doctors • Observerships • Today MrwanSweedan (Boise) and Ali Makki (Twin Falls) are doing this, but it really does not provide benefit to residency application because there is not clinical patient interactions – its only observing the doctor • Physician Assistant (PA) or Nurse Practitioner programs • Challenges with getting into PA school and being able to get financial aid/loans to fund the 2 year program because already have an MD • Nurse Practitioner is less valuable than PA in gaining clinical experience because cannot prescribe medications

  8. US Medical License Exam (USMLE) • USMLE will not release exam results without ECFMG • In 2022, ECFMG to implement a policy to not recognize any non-US medical school that do not follow American medical school system • Three Parts to USMLE • Basic (all theory) – 13 subjects • Clinical (2-part) • Clinical Knowledge (CK) – theory; 9 hour exam • Clinical Scale (CS) – medical knowledge, communication & ethics - practical exam with 12 patients; exam is pass/fail • General Medical Knowledge – can take before residency or during residency (usually AMGs take it during); 2-day exam that can be taken over two consecutive days or spread out. • There are agencies and resources across the country to help prepare and pass the USMLE

  9. USMLE Tools (from Ali Makki’s Handout) • www.ecfmg.org - IWA/OASIS & For USMLE step 1, 2 CK-CS/Application & registration –www.usmle.org - Qbank (more than 2000 exam-like questions with detailed explanations) • www.kaptest.com – all the tools and prep to pass all 3 parts of the USMLE including online and live classroom options; Qbank (more than 2000 exam-like questions with detailed explanations) • www.medquestreviews.com – The amazing Dr. Conrad Fischer, MD; Steps 1,2 & 3 video lectures; Books to master the boards for step 2CK and step 3 • www.nbme.org – The most reliable and accurate assessment self-assessment exam for Steps 1, 2 & 3 • www.prometric.com – To schedule the LONGEST day in your life ever to take the big test

  10. Helpful Residency Stats • Resident salary in NW averages ~$71K/year vs. other areas of us the at ~$55K/year. • But, ~73% of all residency programs are west of the Mississippi, so chances to get accepted in residency program in the NW is lower. • 1 in 5 doctors in the US had to work in the New England area (i.e., Boston etc.) at one point in their career. • http://www.medscape.com/features/slideshow/public/residents-salary-and-debt-report

  11. Residency Programs General Overview • University hospital • Community hospital affiliated with a university • Community hospital without university affiliation There is a feasible alternative to the University Hospital residency programs… • VA (Veteran’s Affairs): the biggest healthcare system in the US with residency programs affiliated with various universities including University of Washington Medical School • University of Washington in Seattle is also a WWAMI medical school

  12. Possible Areas Global Talent Idaho Can Help • Partnership with the Idaho Department of Labor (IDOL) in an effort to access funds for dislocated workers that alleviate some of the costs associated with relicensing and reestablishing a medical career. • Rosa in Twin Falls • Stacey Shegrud at the Boise Idaho Depart of Labor • English language resources • Global Talent Idaho Job Seeker Training Program • 1:1 coaching and workshops on the key components of the American job search. • Orientation to Global Talent Idaho & General American Cultural Norms • Marketing Yourself in the US Job Search • Interviewing Skills • Networking Skills • Practice Interviewing • Surviving the American Workplace • Mentor Program • job seekers can be matched with a volunteer mentor, a professional with American work experience, who provides individual coaching, resume and cover letter support, and industry knowledge

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