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What’s Completion Got to Do With It?. Unpacking the Value of Student Short-Term Course-Taking. LearningWorks & RP Group Webinar | October 31, 2012. What Gets Lost in the Completion Discussion?. Not all of our students are seeking completion

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what s completion got to do with it

What’s Completion Got to Do With It?

Unpacking the Value of Student Short-Term Course-Taking

LearningWorks & RP Group Webinar | October 31, 2012

what gets lost in the completion discussion
What Gets Lost in the Completion Discussion?

Not all of our students are seeking completion

  • Particularly in CTE, students may go get jobs without completing certificates

Our completion rates are not equitable

  • If we have to do more with less and completion is the measure, will our more vulnerable students be forced out?

The journey to completion is a very long one

  • We need to understand what happens along the way to figure out where to focus our resources

What’s Completion Got to Do with It? | October 2012

peter bahr s cluster analysis
Peter Bahr’s Cluster Analysis

165,921 first-time students who enrolled in at least one credit or noncredit community college course in fall 2001

Followed course-taking patters over 7 years

Did NOTuse factors such as students’ race/ ethnicity, status as a credit/noncredit student or stated goal

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key definitions
Key Definitions

Completion

  • Associate’s degree
  • Certificate
  • Transfer

First Time Student

  • Had not previously attended college
  • Were not co-enrolled in high school or a four-year institution
  • Accounted for 70% of students who entered system in fall 2001 and attempted four-fifths of units in 2001-2002

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the clusters
The Clusters

Completion-Directed Pathways

  • Completion Likely (2 subgroups)
  • Completion Unlikely
  • CTE

Non-Completion Pathways

  • Skills-Builders
  • Noncredit

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completion likely continuum
Completion-Likely Continuum

Students Most Likely to Complete

  • Enroll full time, stay about 6 years
  • Attempt an average of 123 credits in transferrable courses
  • Pass 73% of courses and have high completion rates (68%)

Students Somewhat Likely to Complete

  • Enroll full time, stay about 4 years
  • Attempt 66 transferrable credits, but fewer math, physical & life sciences
  • Pass 73% of courses but have low completion rates (31%)

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Our successful

students take

four to six

years to complete and amass

65-125 units

completion directed
Completion Directed

Completion Unlikely

  • Enroll part time, attend intermittently, stay about 2 years
  • Attempt 16 transferrable credits, with more CTE
  • Pass 26% of courses and have very low completion rates (10%)

Career Technical Education Students

  • Enroll full time, stay about 5 years
  • Attempt 82 units in commercial services, engineering and industrial technologies, health fields and public and protective services
  • Pass 80% of courses but have low completion rates (35%)

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African American,

Latino and Native American students are

more likely to

be in our

less-successful clusters

non completion pathways
Non-Completion Pathways

Skills-Builder Students

Take one course a year for two years, on average

Attempt 7 credits in transferrable humanities and CTE, especially engineering and industrial technologies

Pass 94% of courses but have very low completion rates (9%)

Noncredit Students

Enroll in about three courses a year for five years

Take ESL, short-term vocational programs, health and safety education and programs for older adults

Course completion data missing

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comparison of pass and completion rates among clusters
Comparison of Pass and Completion Rates Among Clusters

What’s Completion Got to Do with It? | October 2012

statewide averages
First-Time Student Types, Based on Head CountStatewide Averages

Bahr found that averages varied by college

What’s Completion Got to Do with It? | October 2012

what about those non completers
What About Those Non-Completers?

A preliminary analysis of UI wage data found wage increases for skills-builder students.

The CTE Employment Outcome survey found significant wage gains for non-completers (26% increase in hourly wage for non-completers; 39% for completers).

There are pathways through our colleges that we aren’t documenting or measuring.

What’s Completion Got to Do with It? | October 2012

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Our current measures

don’t capture

job training and may erroneously treat

a third of our students

as failures

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