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A last kilometer issue in Madrid Serenate Workshop 17-18 September 2002, La Hulpe

A last kilometer issue in Madrid Serenate Workshop 17-18 September 2002, La Hulpe. Jesús Marco ( marco@ifca.unican.es ) Consejo Superior de Investigaciones Científicas IFCA (Santander) SPAIN. The Issue Points.

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A last kilometer issue in Madrid Serenate Workshop 17-18 September 2002, La Hulpe

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  1. A last kilometer issue in MadridSerenate Workshop17-18 September 2002, La Hulpe Jesús Marco (marco@ifca.unican.es) Consejo Superior de Investigaciones Científicas IFCA (Santander) SPAIN

  2. The Issue Points • CIEMAT is a large spanish scientific installation in Madrid (Spain), with national & international projects… • with a low bandwidth (2 Mbps) and saturated connection to the NREN • RedIRIS central site (Geant node) is also in Madrid, at a couple of kilometers • How to improve the link? • Organizational questions • Solving the problem J.Marco: A last kilometer issue in Madrid 1st Serenate Workshop (La Hulpe)

  3. CIEMAT Research Public Institutionattached tothe Ministry of Science andTechnology (MCyT) Fields of Activity Fossil Fuels Nuclear Fission Energy Nuclear Fusion HEP Physics Renewable Energies Environmental Quality >1000 people (>500 scientists) Central site in Madrid city: 20 Ha. , 71000 m2 in 27 buildings J.Marco: A last kilometer issue in Madrid 1st Serenate Workshop (La Hulpe)

  4. CIEMAT (campus level) >20 departamental servers >650 desktops Supercomputing infrastructure Network: 4km optical fiber + cable 23 people in IT department 2Mbps J.Marco: A last kilometer issue in Madrid 1st Serenate Workshop (La Hulpe)

  5. European Interconnect CIEMAT 3 km RedIRIS Site (NREN) Three Level Model National MADRID Regional/Metropolitan J.Marco: A last kilometer issue in Madrid 1st Serenate Workshop (La Hulpe)

  6. EL TRAFICO DE MADRID EN TIEMPO REAL Traffic (cars) in Madrid now (8.30 am) Traffic (cars) in Madrid at 6.30 am Many complains from users (in particular those with international projects) J.Marco: A last kilometer issue in Madrid 1st Serenate Workshop (La Hulpe)

  7. Organizational questions • NREN in Spain: • RedIRIS takes care of the National Backbone • In process of upgrade to 2.5Gbps, 622,155 Mbps redundant topology • 17 autonomies, each one with a RedIRIS connection node, should take care “inside” its domain of the “campus” connection • CIEMAT in Madrid, but ... central organization • was a Ministry of Industry institution • Now a MCyT institution • The 2 Mbps link paid by CIEMAT (20keuros/year) • So, new link cost on CIEMAT... J.Marco: A last kilometer issue in Madrid 1st Serenate Workshop (La Hulpe)

  8. Solving the problem • CIEMAT solution: • Discussion and collaboration with NREN: • Antonio Mollinedo(CIEMAT) met Esther Robles(RedIRIS) last year (in annual RedIRIS meeting) • CIEMAT has opted for a direct fast-ethernet link (now being contracted, ready by end of the year) • Good possibility in a metropolitan range • Administrative/Legal solution: via a genomic project • Reasonable Cost: 36Keuros • Other possibilities discussed: • New optical ring (paid by Madrid Community) joining all academical institutions, and through RedIRIS site • New fast links for Universities, CIEMAT close to the Universidad Complutense de Madrid campus • UAM (was also at 2Mbps, at 30 km): now radio-link J.Marco: A last kilometer issue in Madrid 1st Serenate Workshop (La Hulpe)

  9. Conclusions Disclaimer: This is only my “experienced” user point of view (in particular regarding Administrative issues) • Short Distance makes this problem Outstanding • In fact, the short distance factor (inside metropolitan area) gives more possibilities for connection… • Organizational issues do weight! • Legal/Administrative(/Political?) issues • Quite difficult to solve some times (even if cost is not high) • Collaboration/Support between • Final Users (Feedback and Project Support) • Campus Level Network Responsible & Institution • NREN Many thanks to Esther Robles and Antonio Mollinedo for the information J.Marco: A last kilometer issue in Madrid 1st Serenate Workshop (La Hulpe)

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