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NENE: New Educational Networking Exchanges The baby's first steps... (CAN-USA-MEX-CHILE)

NENE: New Educational Networking Exchanges The baby's first steps... (CAN-USA-MEX-CHILE). Spring Internet2 Member Meeting International Collaborations March 7, 20001 Ana Preston. Very basic Spanish. N ew E ducational N etworking E xchanges. nene: baby el nene: the baby.

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NENE: New Educational Networking Exchanges The baby's first steps... (CAN-USA-MEX-CHILE)

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  1. NENE: New Educational Networking ExchangesThe baby's first steps...(CAN-USA-MEX-CHILE) Spring Internet2 Member Meeting International Collaborations March 7, 20001 Ana Preston

  2. Very basic Spanish New Educational Networking Exchanges nene: babyel nene: the baby

  3. How “el NENE” was conceived… • Fall CUDI Meeting (Nov. 2001 - Monterrey, Nuevo Leon) • The “parents”: Canada/CANARIE: Peter MarshallMexico/CUDI: Jose Antonio Ramirez Vidal, Arturo Servin, Ivan MartinezU.S./Internet2: Ana Preston, Heather BoylesChile/REUNA: Cristian Henry (in spirit) • Connectivity in place, what can we do? • Start “small” (simple and feasible), but make it grow and evolve into something bigger and more mature.

  4. What is NENE about.. • Informative exchanges between all participants: Canada, Chile, Mexico and the U.S. • Use Internet2 as the vehicle and H.323-based videoconferencing as the enabling technology • Explore issues regarding videoconferencing over high-speed networks • Explore and learn from these interactions. • A framework upon which all the participants can build a foundation for "educational and research" collaborations.

  5. How does “el NENE” look like? • Exchanges: a one-hour multipoint videoconference. • The country "hosting" the seminar presents for about 20-30 minutes and/or sets the agenda. • The rest of the hour is devoted for questions/answers and general discussion. • The country "hosting" the seminar is also the moderator for the call. • Enhanced participation by CUDI members: CICESE, IPN, ITESM, UAT, UANL, UDG, UDLAP, UNAM and other affiliate members. • Technical coordination/infrastructure: UAT (Ivan Martinez)

  6. NENE’s so far... Topics/Themes:  Generally, introductory H.323 deployment and how it is being used in each country/universities. Ist. NENE: Mexico -- Agenda 01/22/01 • Red CUDI (ITESM) • H.323 Infrastructure Update (UAT) • Migration Schema H.320 to H.323 (UDG) • Applications (IPN) • Experiences and perspectives (UT - US)

  7. And another one.. 2nd. NENE: U.S. -- Agenda 02/19/01 • 11:00: Welcome (Ana Preston, University of Tennessee) • 11:05: Overview of US infrastructure and Internet2 (Heather Boyles, Internet2) • 11:15: ViDe and ViDeNet overviews (Tyler Johnson, UNC) • 11:30: Case Study I - University of North Carolina (Tyler Johnson) • 11:40: Case Study II - University of Tennessee (Ana Preston and invited faculty: “why we needed this yesterday…” • 11:50: Questions and Answers • 12:00: Closing Remarks

  8. What we have learned • Really good things (good NENE): • “Bad” things (bad NENE) • How can this baby grow….Basics: • Language • Time zones: GMT vs. 11:00 am EST; 10:00 am CST; 8:00 am PST; Chile is +2 hours EST (i.e., two h • Testing and actual exchange coordination • Getting to know one another

  9. Example:network tests 12/13/00 [tyr]:aservin> traceroute www.reuna.cl traceroute to www.reuna.cl (146.83.183.98), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 131.178.100.1 (131.178.100.1) 3 ms 1 ms 1 ms 2 gwzeus.mty.itesm.mx (131.178.101.2) 2 ms 1 ms 1 ms 3 200.23.60.134 (200.23.60.134) 2 ms 2 ms 2 ms 4 200.23.60.234 (200.23.60.234) 19 ms 18 ms 18 ms 5 200.23.60.241 (200.23.60.241) 43 ms 43 ms 43 ms 6 200.23.60.249 (200.23.60.249) 50 ms 47 ms 47 ms 7 scrm-losa.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.17) 54 ms 55 ms 55 ms 8 dnvr-scrm.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.2) 76 ms * 76 ms 9 kscy-dnvr.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.14) 87 ms 87 ms 87 ms 10 ipls-kscy.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.6) 96 ms 96 ms 96 ms 11 146.83.242.1 (146.83.242.1) 102 ms 103 ms 103 ms 12 192.168.7.2 (192.168.7.2) 631 ms 632 ms 631 ms 13 146.83.240.203 (146.83.240.203) 633 ms 632 ms 632 ms 14 146.83.183.98 (146.83.183.98) 631 ms 631 ms 631 ms Mexico to Chile 12/13/00 11:11:56 Fast traceroute 131.178.1.1 Trace 131.178.1.1 ... 1 146.83.188.1 0ms 1ms 1ms TTL: 0 (No rDNS) 2 146.83.240.193 2ms 1ms 1ms TTL: 0 (conexioninter-nap.reuna.cl ok) 3 192.168.7.1 531ms 530ms 530ms TTL: 0 (No rDNS) 4 146.83.242.2 536ms 536ms 536ms TTL: 0 (No rDNS) 5 198.32.8.5 545ms 545ms 546ms TTL: 0 (kscy-ipls.abilene.ucaid.edu ok) 6 198.32.8.13 556ms 556ms 556ms TTL: 0 (dnvr-kscy.abilene.ucaid.edu ok) 7 198.32.8.1 578ms 577ms 578ms TTL: 0 (scrm-dnvr.abilene.ucaid .edu ok) 8 198.32.8.18 584ms 584ms 584ms TTL: 0 (losa-scrm.abilene.ucaid.edu ok) 9 200.23.60.250 589ms 590ms 594ms TTL: 0 (No rDNS) 10 200.23.60.242 615ms 615ms 623ms TTL: 0 (No rDNS) 11 200.23.60.233 631ms 630ms 631ms TTL: 0 (No rDNS) 12 200.23.60.133 631ms 630ms 631ms TTL: 0 (No rDNS) 13 131.178.101.1 631ms 632ms 631ms TTL: 0 (gwcronos.mty.itesm.mx ok) 14 131.178.1.1 632ms 640ms 632ms TTL:242 (ns.mty.itesm.mx ok) Chile to Mexico

  10. Example: cable goes a long way UT/U.S. to Chile (12/13/00) > traceroute www.reuna.cl >traceroute: Warning: ckecksums disabled >traceroute to www.reuna.cl (146.83.183.98), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets > 1 R5DH01V105.NS.UTK.EDU (128.169.48.1) 2.583 ms 4.002 ms 2.839 ms > 2 R7DH03G11-0-0.NS.UTK.EDU (192.168.101.3) 3.020 ms 3.575 ms 4.409 ms > 3 UTK-GATECH.NS.UTK.EDU (128.169.50.246) 73.770 ms 69.816 ms 69.453 ms > 4 199.77.193.10 (199.77.193.10) 72.769 ms 68.449 ms 69.749 ms > 5 ipls-atla.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.41) 83.462 ms 81.092 ms 81.354 ms > 6 146.83.242.1 (146.83.242.1) 87.128 ms 89.193 ms 87.901 ms > 7 192.168.7.2 (192.168.7.2) 617.395 ms 617.095 ms 614.096 ms > 8 146.83.240.203 (146.83.240.203) 617.630 ms 616.015 ms 615.045 ms > 9 146.83.183.98 (146.83.183.98) 612.368 ms 617.140 ms 616.142 ms UT/U.S. to Chile (03/05/01) apreston burns> traceroute www.reuna.cl traceroute: Warning: ckecksums disabled traceroute to www.reuna.cl (146.83.183.98), 30 hops max, 40 byte packets 1 R5DH01V105.NS.UTK.EDU (128.169.48.1) 1.021 ms 1.431 ms 0.825 ms 2 R7DH03G11-0-0.NS.UTK.EDU (192.168.101.3) 1.808 ms 1.267 ms 2.749 ms 3 UTK-GATECH.NS.UTK.EDU (128.169.50.246) 67.659 ms 65.687 ms 65.548 ms 4 199.77.193.10 (199.77.193.10) 65.521 ms 65.172 ms 65.455 ms 5 ipls-atla.abilene.ucaid.edu (198.32.8.41) 76.187 ms 74.933 ms 74.946 ms 6 146.83.242.1 (146.83.242.1) 81.476 ms 81.865 ms 81.348 ms 7 192.168.7.6 (192.168.7.6) 295.113 ms 295.583 ms 295.195 ms 8 146.83.240.203 (146.83.240.203) 296.557 ms 295.735 ms 296.713 ms 9 146.83.183.98 (146.83.183.98) 295.685 ms 295.862 ms 295.741 ms

  11. The baby’s first steps... Best Practices: • Language • Moderating and continuity • Slides/presentation materials: design guidelines • turn that MUTE button ON!! audio echos, backround noise, not muting Technical challenges • can it be the network?  • almost perfect on 01/25/01; • networks behaved beautifully

  12. The baby’s first steps... Technical challenges (cont.) • can it be the network? BUT on 2/19/01:  • Canada reports: choppy video, audio breakups, 40-50% congestion; at least 6 reconnects • Chile: couldn’t see presentations, couldn’t be heard, bad quality overall; already on transoceanic cable • Possible reason: trying new features on MCU (Accord); No transcoding, Video Switching (assumes speed constants -- 384kps) And more: • Video: who I am talking to? Presentations; testing of features: transcoding, continuous presence

  13. The baby’s first steps... • Equipment: heterogenous clients: low quality (NetMeeting) up to Codec’s (Tandberg) and Vcon, Polycon clients- not all clients have same capabilites, e.g., echo cancelation, selectable streaming (bandwidth). • Coordination: technically/logistics • Biggest participant: CUDI’s universities; why this was a very good incentive • So “el Nene” started...

  14. From walking to running... Potential: • Remote and Distance learning • Real test-bed for collaborations between our countries • A tangible framework for interactions.

  15. From walking to running... Next steps: • Minimum requirements for better quality • Continue monthly exchanges • Augment best practices • Get faculty and student participation • Explore T.120 capabilities and such on international multipoint calls • Mexico/Chile: inclusion in VideNet and coordination of directories, gatekeeper and dialing schemas • Solicit more participation • Explore theme-specific exchanges • And all those to be discovered...

  16. Thanks! Gracias! Merci! - Ivan Martinez (UAT), Carlos Portes (UAT), CUDI (Jose Antonio Ramirez, Francisco Zaldivar), and all participating Mexican universities - Cristian Henry (Chile/REUNA), his staff and their patience… - Peter Marshall, Marc Boulerice (CANARIE) (for being there -- we know it’s COLD in Canada!!) - Tyler Johnson (UNC), Heather Boyles (UCAID) nene.internet2.uat.mx Ana Preston University of Tennessee apreston@utk.edu

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