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New IXPs in a Post IPv4 World. ______________________________ Andy Davidson andy@lonap.net Hurricane Electric / LONAP RIPE62, Amsterdam, 4 th May 2011. IPv4 …. YAWN!. Process. Get some numbers! IPv6 PI For Exchange Points IPv4 PI

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new ixps in a post ipv4 world

New IXPs in a Post IPv4 World

______________________________

Andy Davidson andy@lonap.net

Hurricane Electric / LONAP RIPE62, Amsterdam, 4th May 2011

process
Process
  • Get some numbers!
    • IPv6 PI For Exchange Points
    • IPv4 PI
  • IPv4 PI will go away very soon indeed!
do v4 prefix exchange over v6 transport
Do v4 prefix exchange over v6 transport?
  • You still need an IPv4 next-hop
  • Process separation is desirable
  • Assumption that next-hop can deliver 4 *and* 6 is possibly flawed
  • Troubleshooting?
rfc 1918 ipv4
RFC 1918 IPv4
  • URPF
  • Duplication
  • Reverse DNS
  • ICMP failure
  • Troubleshooting ?
just do v6 peering at new exchanges
Just do v6 peering at new exchanges?
  • Makes new exchange unattractive or unviable
  • Exchange is a neutral catalyst for good of internet including v6 deployment
just don t make any new exchanges
Just don’t make any new exchanges
  • Unappealing
  • The bits of the world without exchanges will benefit enormously from an exchange
save some ipv4 for ixps
Save some IPv4 for IXPs?
  • Hold an additional /16 from the last /8 for IXPs
  • We define IXPs in ripe document already
  • … Discuss ?
  • To be taken to APWG on Thursday if support.
suggestions from eix
Suggestions from EIX
  • Significant support
  • Don’t wait for the final /8 ?
  • Not just for new IXPs, but growing existing ones ?
  • Minimum assignment size ?