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Tony Doyle. GridPP Collaboration Meeting 9 May 2002. The Vision Thing… Grid Scale Integration Dissemination LHC Analyses Other Analyses. DataGrid LCG Interoperability Infrastructure Finanaces Summary. Outline. Inspiration??. GridPP Documents.

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Tony Doyle

GridPP Collaboration Meeting

9 May 2002

The Vision Thing…





LHC Analyses

Other Analyses








Tony Doyle - University of Glasgow


Tony Doyle - University of Glasgow

gridpp documents
GridPP Documents

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gridpp vision
From Web to Grid - Building the next IT Revolution


The next IT revolution will be the Grid. The Grid is a practical solution to the data-intensive problems that must be overcome if the computing needs of many scientific communities and industry are to be fulfilled over the next decade.


The GridPP Collaboration aims to develop and deploy the largest-scale science Grid in the UK for use by the worldwide particle physics community.

GridPP Vision

Many Challenges..

Shared distributed


For all experiments

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gridpp objectives
1. SCALE: GridPP will deliver the Grid software (middleware) and hardware infrastructure to enable the testing of a prototype of the Grid for the LHC of significant scale.

2. INTEGRATION: The GridPP project is designed to integrate with the existing Particle Physics programme within the UK, thus enabling early deployment and full testing of Grid technology and efficient use of limited resources.

3. DISSEMINATION: The project will disseminate the GridPP deliverables in the multi-disciplinary e-science environment and will seek to build collaborations with emerging non-PPARC Grid activities both nationally and internationally.

4. UK PHYSICS ANALYSES (LHC): The main aim is to provide a computing environment for the UK Particle Physics Community capable of meeting the challenges posed by the unprecedented data requirements of the LHC experiments.

5. UK PHYSICS ANALYSES (OTHER): The process of creating and testing the computing environment for the LHC will naturally provide for the needs of the current generation of highly data intensive Particle Physics experiments: these will provide a live test environment for GridPP research and development.

6. DATAGRID: Grid technology is the framework used to develop this capability: key components will be developed as part of the EU DataGrid project and elsewhere.

7. LCG: The collaboration builds on the strong computing traditions of the UK at CERN. The CERN working groups will make a major contribution to the LCG research and development programme.

8. INTEROPERABILITY: The proposal is also integrated with developments from elsewhere in order to ensure the development of a common set of principles, protocols and standards that can support a wide range of applications.

9. INFRASTRUCTURE: Provision is made for facilities at CERN (Tier-0), RAL (Tier-1) and use of up to four Regional Centres (Tier-2).

10. OTHER FUNDING: These centres will provide a focus for dissemination to the academic and commercial sector and are expected to attract funds from elsewhere such that the full programme can be realised.


GridPP Objectives

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grid a single resource
Grid – A Single Resource

Glenn Patrick

Many millions

of events

Various conditions

Many samples


A unified approach

Peta Bytes of data storage

Distributed resources

Many 1000s of computers required

Worldwide collaboration

Heterogeneous operating systems

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grid what s been happening


Grid - What’s been happening?


A unified approach

      • A lot…
  • GGF4, OGSA and support of IBM (and others)
    • [as opposed to .NET development framework and passports to access services]
    • Timescale? September 2002
  • W3C architecture for web services
    • Chose (gzipped) XML as opposed to other solutions for metadata descriptions… and web-based interfaces
  • linux
    • [as opposed to other platforms… lindows??]
  • C++ (experiments) and C, Java (middleware) APIs
    • [mono - Open Source implementation of the .NET Development Framework??]

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GridPP Context (Internally)

Provide architecture and middleware

Future LHC Experiments

Running US Experiments

Build Tier-A/prototype Tier-1 and Tier-2 centres in the UK and join worldwide effort to develop middleware for the experiments

Use the Grid with simulated data

Use the Grid with real data

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using grid middleware and datagrid tools
Using Grid Middlewareand DataGrid Tools


A unified approach

1. Authentication


2. Job submission to DataGrid


3. Monitoring and control




4. Data publication and replication

globus-url-copy, GDMP

5. Resource scheduling – use of CERN MSS

JDL, sandboxes, storage elements

Important to

implement this

for all experiments…

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edg testbed 1 status
EDG TestBed 1 Status


A unified approach

Web interface showing status of (~400) servers at testbed 1 sites


extend to all expts

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lhc computing at a glance
LHC computing at a glance

1. scale

  • The investment in LHC computing will be massive
    • LHC Review estimated 240MCHF (before LHC delay)
    • 80MCHF/y afterwards
  • These facilities will be distributed
    • Political as well as sociological and practical reasons


267 institutes, 4603 users

Elsewhere: 208 institutes, 1632 users

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gridpp funded staff at cern
GridPP funded Staff at CERN

7. LCG

  • IT/ADC
    • Ian Neilson from 16th April. Working on certificate authority then scaling up EDG testbed.
  • IT/API
    • Jacek Generowicz from 1st Feb. Working on GEANT4, in particular, tracking & visualisation
    • Maria Girone from 1st April. Settling in.
  • IT/FIO
    • John Hearns from 1st April. Configuration & installation management; relates to WP4 effort and LCFG.
    • Bill Tomlin from 16th April. State Management.
  • Little acorns..

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rtag status
RTAG Status

Tony Cass

  • 6 RTAGs created to date:
    • RTAG1 (Persistency Framework; status: completed)
    • RTAG2 (Managing LCG Software; status: running)
    • RTAG3 (Math Library Review; status: running)
    • RTAG4 (GRID Use Cases; status: starting)
    • RTAG5 (Mass Storage; status: running)
    • RTAG6 (Regional Centres; status: starting)
  • Two more in advanced state of preparation:
    • Simulation components
    • Data Definition Tools

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applications area has momentum
Applications area has momentum

Tony Cass

  • Torre Wenaus started as Area Manager in March.
  • Activities in the Applications area are now well organised. See
  • Weekly Applications area meetings initiated together with “Architects Forum”.
  • Active work for Software Process and Persistency. Work plan must be developed for SC2 approval.

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fabrics grid deployment
Fabrics & Grid Deployment

Tony Cass

  • LCG Level 1 Milestone: deploy a Global Grid Service within 1 year
    • sustained 24 X 7 service
    • including sites from three continents
      • identical or compatible Grid middleware and infrastructure
    • several times the capacity of the CERN facility
    • and as easy to use
  • Ongoing work at CERN to increase automation and streamline configuration, especially for migration to RedHat 7.2.
    • Aim to phase out old CERN solutions by mid-2003.

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lcg timeline

Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4

Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4

Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4

Q1 Q2 Q3 Q4





LCG Timeline

1. timescale

Prototype of Hybrid Event Store (Persistency Framework)

Hybrid Event Store available for general users


Distributed production using grid services

Full Persistency Framework

Distributed end-user interactive analysis

LHC Global Grid TDR


“50% prototype” (LCG-3) available

LCG-1 reliability and performance targets

First Global Grid Service (LCG-1) available

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be a part of this
LCG Development

– Long Term Attachment at CERN

This will enable Grid developments in the UK to be (more) fully integrated with long-term Grid development plans at CERN.

The proposed mechanism is:

1. submit a short one-page outline of current and proposed work, noting how this work can best be developed within a named team at CERN, by e-mail to the GridPP Project Leader (Tony Doyle) and GridPP CERN Liaison (Tony Cass).

2. This case will be discussed at the following weekly GridPP PMB meeting and outcomes will be communicated as soon as possible by e-mail following that meeting.


1. The minimum period for LTA is 3 months. It is expected that a work programme will be typically for 6 months (or more).

2. Prior DataGrid and LHC (or other) experiments' Grid work are normally expected.

3. It is worthwhile reading

in order to get an idea of the areas covered, and the emphasis placed, by the LCG project on specific areas (building upon DataGrid and LHC experiments' developments).

4. Please send all enquiries and proposals to:

Tony Doyle <> and

Tony CASS <>

Be a part of this?

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summary of lcg presentation
Summary of LCG presentation

Tony Cass

  • Project got under way early this year
  • Launch workshop and early RTAGs give good input for high-level planning …
  • … to be presented to LHCC in July
  • New plan takes account of first beam in 2007
  • No serious problems foreseen in synchronising LCG plans with those of the experiments
  • Collaboration with the many Grid projects needs more work
  • Technical collaboration with the Regional Centres has to be established
  • Recruitment of special staff going well (but need to keep the recruitment momentum going)
  • Very serious problem with materials funding

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building upon success
Building upon Success

6. DataGrid

  • The most important criterion for establishing the status of this project was the European Commission review on March 1st 2002.
  • The review report of project IST-2000-25182 DATAGRID is available from PPARC.
  • The covering letter states “As a general conclusion, the reviewers found that the overall performance of the project is good and in some areas beyond expectations.”
  • The reviewers state “The deliverables due for the first review were in general of excellent quality, and all of them were available on time… All deliverables are approved. The project is doing well, exceeding expectations in some areas, and coping successfully with the challenges due to its size.”

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6. DataGrid

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Identifiable Progress...

3. Dissemination



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uk tiera prototype tier 1 centre
UK TierA/prototype Tier-1 Centre

9. Infrastructure

  • Roles
  • Tier-A Centre for BaBar
  • EDG testbed(s)
  • LCG prototype Tier-1 Centre
  • prototype Tier-1 for LHC experiments (Data Challenges independent of LCG development…)
  • Interworking with other UK resources (JIF, JREI, eSC) = UK portal
  • existing LEP, DESY and non-accelerator experiments
  • Purchases
  • First year = Hardware Advisory Group (HAG1)
  • Balance between cpu, disk, and tape
  • Experts on specific technologies
  • Propose more HAGs (2 and 3)..
  • Needs to be successful in all roles... ..Report progress/problems

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rollout of the uk grid for pp
Rollout of the UK Grid for PP

9. Infrastructure

  • Operational stability of GridPP middleware = Testbed team
  • “the gang of four” … Andrew McNab, Steve Traylen, Dave Colling (other half) and Owen Moroney
  • Ensures the release of “Testbed” quality EDG software
    • documentation
    • lead for other system managers in terms of implementation
    • pre-defined software cycle releases (2 months..)
  • Subject of the Rollout Plan… “Planning for EDG Testbed software deployment and support at participating UK sites” (Pete Clarke, John Gordon)
  • See Andrew and John’s talks..
  • LCG is the proposed mechanism by which the EDG testbed at CERN becomes an LCG Grid Service. The evolution of the EDG testbed to the LCG Grid Service will take account of both EDG and US grid technology. Need to take account of this..

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longer term
Longer Term..

9. Infrastructure

  • LCG Grid Service
  • Takes account of EDG and US grid technology
  • A large-scale Grid resource, consistent with the LCG timeline, within the UK.
  • Scale in UK? 0.5 Pbytes and 2,000 distrib. CPUs = GridPP in Sept 2004
  • “50% prototype”?

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gridpp context externally
GridPP Context (Externally)

Neil Geddes

9. Interoperability

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9. Interoperability

  • How do we integrate with developments from elsewhere in order to ensure the development of a common set of principles, protocols and standards that can support a wide range of applications?
  • GGF…
  • Within the Particle Physics community, these ideas are currently encapsulated(??) in the Grid Laboratory Uniform Environment (GLUE).
  • Recommend this as a starting point for the wider deployment of Grids across the Atlantic. See (Ruth Pordes et al.)

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9. Interoperability

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9. Interoperability

= Minimal


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17m 3 year project
£17m 3-Year Project

Dave Britton

10. Finances

  • Five components
    • Tier-1/A = Hardware + ITD Support Staff
    • DataGrid = DataGrid Posts + PPD Staff
    • Applications = Experiments Posts
    • Operations = Travel + Management + e Early Investment
    • CERN = LCG posts + Tier-0 + e LTA

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0 projected staff effort sy
0. Projected Staff Effort [SY]

Status at GridPP3


WP1 Workload Management 0.5 [IC] 2.0 [IC]

WP2 Data Management 1.5 [Ggo] 1.0 [Oxf] WP12

WP3 Monitoring Services 5.0++ [RAL, QMW] 1.0 [HW]

Security ++ [RAL] 1.0 [Oxf]

WP4 Fabric Management 1.5 [Edin., L’pool]

WP5 Mass Storage 3.5++ [RAL, L’pool]

WP6 Integration Testbed 5.0++ [RAL/M’cr/IC/Bristol]

WP7 Network Services 2.0 [UCL/M’cr] 1.0 [UCL]

WP8 Applications 17.0

ATLAS/LHCb (Gaudi/Athena) 6.5 [Oxf, Cam, RHUL, B’ham, RAL]

CMS 3.0 [IC, Bristol, Brunel]

CDF/D0 (SAM) 4.0 [IC, Ggo, Oxf, Lanc]

BaBar 2.5 [IC, M’cr, Bristol]

UKQCD 1.0 [Edin.]

Total 36.0++10.0 ->20.0++6.0

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1 recruitment
1. Recruitment
  • EDG Funded Posts (Middleware/Testbed)
    • All 5 in post + 1 additional
  • EDG Unfunded Posts (Middleware/Testbed)
    • 15 out of 15 in post
  • GridPP Posts (Applications + Tier1/A)
    • Allocated Dec 2001
    • ~14 out of 15 in post
  • CERN Posts
    • First Round = 105 Applicants, 12 Offers, 9 Accepted
    • 4 in Applications, 2 Data Management, 3 Systems
    • Second Round = 140 applicants, 9 Offers
    • Third Round ~ 70 Applicants
    • Aim ~ 28 posts

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2 monitoring staff effort sm
2. Monitoring Staff Effort [SM]

Robin Middleton

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3 progress towards deliverables
3. Progress towards deliverables..

Pete Clarke

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1 next steps
-1. Next steps..

10. Finances

  • O(100k)
    • e CLRC support through to Sept 04
    • Other experiments – unfunded in peer review process
    • Tier-2 centres – unfunded initially
  • £2.3m
    • eDIKT (e-Data, Information and Knowledge Transformation) [SHEFC] Particle Physics = application area - assignment of two (of twelve) FTEs in initial planning. Discussions ongoing with EPCC.
  • O(€100m)
    • The first call for Framework 6 will be early next year.
    • Call out now for expressions of interest for new networks and integrated projects.
    • Draft document led by David Williams (CERN) “Enabling Grids and e-Science in Europe” plans to extend the current paradigms with CERN at its focus as the European e-Science Centre.
    • We believe this is the right approach.
    • Incorporates the UK’s e-Science agenda, adding a European dimension. It also recognises the central role of CERN and builds upon the recent successes of EDG.
    • Contact: Neil Geddes

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A vision is only useful if its shared

Grid success is fundamental for PP

Scale in UK? 0.5 Pbytes and 2,000 distrib. CPUs? = GridPP in Sept 2004

Integration – ongoing..

Dissemination – external and internal

LHC Analyses – we’re getting there..

Other Analyses – ditto - look forward to Roger’s talk

DataGrid - - major investment = must be successful

LCG – Grid as a Service

Interoperability – sticky subject

Infrastructure – Tier-A/1 in place, Tier-2’s to follow…

Finances – (very well) under control

Next steps on framework 6..

CERN = EU’s e-science centre

Co-operation required with other disciplines

Monitoring mechanisms in place…

Emphasis on deliverables

End of “business” section


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uml diagram
UML Diagram


A unified approach



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4th Collab Meeting Agenda

Wish I’d b(r)ought a network card.. Welcome!

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