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  1. Objective Moral Values and Duties Do Exist

  2. The Best Way We Can Know Objective/Absolute Moral Laws Exist • We best know what is right and wrong by our reactions not our actions. • We cannot know injustice unless we know justice!

  3. The Standard of Justice • “{As an atheist} my argument against God was that the universe seemed so cruel and unjust. But how had I got this idea of just and unjust? A man does not call a line crooked unless he has some idea of a straight line. What was I comparing this universe with when I called it unjust? Straight line = Standard C.S. Lewis, Mere Christianity, p. 45

  4. We Are Not Saying What We Are Saying • Atheists can’t justify morality • Atheism can theorize about how we know murder is wrong, but atheism provides no objective standard that establishes why murder is wrong. Atheists can’t be moral  they can Atheists can’t know morality  they do

  5. I Agree With Atheists • Some atheists live better moral lives than Christians. • Some who people who say they are “Church people” have poisoned the teachings of Christ– church history has often been unjust, immoral and even overtly evil. • We Are Only Saying • There is no just or unjust, moral or immoral, good or evil unless God exists


  6. If Objective Moral Standards Do Not Exist… • The Nazis were not wrong • 9/11 was not wrong. • Love is no better than rape • Blowing up innocent people watching a marathon is morally no different than feeding the poor. • Religious crusades are not wrong. • Tolerance is no better than intolerance. • There are no human rights.

  7. Different Values or Different Displays? • Kissing vs Handshakes • Different values? Or different reflections of same values? • Dress codes • Driving on sides of the road

  8. The Beef with India Absolute Value vs Relative Understanding Value is the same: Respect elders and ancestors Understanding differs: Where is my ancestor? WE BOTH BELIEVE WE SHOULD NOT EAT GRANDMA!

  9. Objective vs. Convention • Objective may be ‘murder is wrong’ • Convention may be wether your drive on the right side of the road or left side • British left America right • If the convention is you drive on the left, then you have a moral obligation to do so because if not you will bring harm to yourself/others • While the convention may be relative, the obeying is objective because its for the preservation of life.

  10. Objective Moral Values and Duties Exist • We can best know morality by our reactions not our actions • If there is no objective standard, there is nothing right or wrong; it’s just your opinion against Hitler’s opinion • Cultures share the same values, we are expressed differently in that culture