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  1. LemonadeIETF 64 Eric Burger eburger@brooktrout.com Glenn Parsonsgparsons@nortel.com IETF 64 - Vancouver, BC

  2. IETF 64 is hosted by IETF 64 - Vancouver, BC

  3. Note Well Any submission to the IETF intended by the Contributor for publication as all or part of an IETF Internet-Draft or RFC and any statement made within the context of an IETF activity is considered an "IETF Contribution". Such statements include oral statements in IETF sessions, as well as written and electronic communications made at any time or place, which are addressed to: • the IETF plenary session, • any IETF working group or portion thereof, • the IESG or any member thereof on behalf of the IESG, • the IAB or any member thereof on behalf of the IAB, • any IETF mailing list, including the IETF list itself, any working group or design team list, or any other list functioning under IETF auspices, • the RFC Editor or the Internet-Drafts function All IETF Contributions are subject to the rules of BCP 78 and BCP 79.Statements made outside of an IETF session, mailing list or other function, that are clearly not intended to be input to an IETF activity, group or function, are not IETF Contributions in the context of this notice. Please consult BCP 78 for details. IETF 64 - Vancouver, BC

  4. Scribes and Transcribes Eric For Monday ??? For Wednesday JABBER details Room: lemonade Server: ietf.xmpp.orgLogs: http://www.xmpp.org/ietf-logs/lemonade@ietf.xmpp.org/ IETF 64 - Vancouver, BC

  5. Chair’s Agenda • Meeting Goals • Status of documents • Profile – phase 1 • WGLC issues • Reconnect et al • OMA liaison • Profile – phase 2 • in vs. out IETF 64 - Vancouver, BC

  6. Session 1 - Mon, Nov 7, 1510h: Agenda bashing Status review   draft-ietf-lemonade-goals  draft-ietf-lemonade-notify-s2s  draft-ietf-lemonade-mms-mapping  draft-ietf-lemonade-futuredelivery  draft-ietf-lemonade-burl  draft-ietf-lemonade-catenate  draft-ietf-lemonade-urlauth  draft-ietf-lemonade-profile Profile   draft-ietf-lemonade-reconnect  draft-ietf-lemonade-rfc2192bis  draft-ietf-lemonade-convert Session 2 - Wed, Nov 9, 0900h: OMA liaison OMA MEM AD discussion Profile proposals  draft-maes-lemonade-notifications-filters-how-to  draft-maes-lemonade-notifications-server-to-client  draft-maes-lemonade-vfolder  draft-newman-lemonade-msgevent  draft-maes-lemonade-lzip  draft-maes-lemonade-mobile-email  draft-maes-lemonade-deliver  draft-maes-lemonade-http-binding Document list IETF 64 - Vancouver, BC

  7. Meeting Goals • LEMONADE Profile phase 1 and all associated documents in RFC Editor queue right after Vancouver. • LEMONADE Profile phase 2 and associated documents in IESG queue by December 15. IETF 64 - Vancouver, BC

  8. Status Update Chairs IETF 64 - Vancouver, BC

  9. Lemonade Charter Review • LEMONADE Goals • IMAP4 extensions for VM playback • IMAP4/SUBMIT extensions for forwarding • IMAP4 extensions & profile for diverse endpoints • Server-to-Server Notification Protocol • Translation to and from other messaging systems IETF 64 - Vancouver, BC

  10. LEMONADE Goals draft-ietf-lemonade-goals IMAP4 extensions for VM playback draft-ietf-lemonade-convert IMAP4 extensions for forwarding draft-ietf-lemonade-burl draft-ietf-lemonade-urlauth draft-ietf-lemonade-catenate IMAP4 extensions & profile for diverse endpoints draft-ietf-lemonade-reconnect draft-ietf-lemonade-futuredelivery draft-ietf-lemonade-profile draft-ietf-lemonade-rfc2192bis Server-to-Server Notification Protocol draft-ietf-lemonade-notify-s2s Translation to and from other messaging systems draft-ietf-lemonade-mms-mapping WG Deliverables IETF 64 - Vancouver, BC

  11. WGLC Status • Goals • RFC Editor Queue • Server-to-Server Notification Requirements • IETF LC Closed, Informational, Needs update • New author? Abandon? • MMS Mapping • IESG approved, appeal, rescinded • IETF last call re-initiated • All previous issues resolved • One new potential issue raised • IESG review Dec 1 IETF 64 - Vancouver, BC

  12. Trio (URLauth, Catenate, BURL) • IESG review comments to be resolved • CATENATE • RFC Editor note proposed to resolve syntax ‘discuss’ • BURL • BURL missing mandatory auth mechanism ‘discuss’ addressed • New draft-03 • URLAUTH • New draft-08 • New discuss – Sam Hartman • Passing of credentials: SUBMIT -> IMAP • Are IMAP server & SUBMIT server always in the same administrative domain • Is this a reasonable restriction? IETF 64 - Vancouver, BC

  13. Future Delivery • All issues resolved? • Send for AD review • …then IETF last call IETF 64 - Vancouver, BC

  14. Lemonade Profile Stéphane Maes Alexey Melnikov IETF 64 - Vancouver, BC

  15. Profile – open issues • Add IMAP IDLE - yes. • Add IMAP BINARY - yes. • Add description of the $Forwarded IMAP keyword - yes. • Explain how to address FCC problem • add an extension to NAMESPACE command • yes, but in profile rev 2 (?) • Clarify text about ways to assemble messages IETF 64 - Vancouver, BC

  16. IMAP STARTTLS CATENATE URLAUTH BURL UIDPLUS POSTADDRESS LITERAL+ CONDSTORE IDLE ESMTP AUTH PIPELINING 8BITMIME CHUNKING BINARYMIME DSN SIZE ENHANCEDSTATUSCODES MUST implement IETF 64 - Vancouver, BC

  17. Reconnect • New draft-05 expected • Split function for resume in authentication and login • …then WG last call • Depends on • CONDSTORE, SORT, I18N, expunged, ANNOTATE,… • Need implementations of 05 IETF 64 - Vancouver, BC

  18. RFC2192bis - IMAPURL • Updated boilerplate, list of editor's, etc. • Updated references. • Updated ABNF not to use _, to use SP instead of SPACE. • Updated example domains to use example.org. • Fixed ABNF error in "imessagelist" non-terminal. • Updated ABNF, due to changes in RFC 3501, IMAPABNF and RFC 3986. • Renamed "iuserauth" non-terminal to "iuserinfo". • Clarified that the userinfo component describes both authorization • identity and mailbox naming scope. • Added "ipartial" specifier that denotes a partial fetch. IETF 64 - Vancouver, BC

  19. CONVERT • Static (not streaming) • Issues? IETF 64 - Vancouver, BC

  20. OMA MEM liaison • Received • Requirements document approved • Appreciation for participation at joint workshop • Architecture document • Architecture document for review and mapping of a LEMONADE realization • Response • Liaison? • Realization of OMA MEM AD • Publish as Internet Draft before next OMA IETF 64 - Vancouver, BC

  21. Profile – Phase 2 • What is Profile Phase 2? • Meets balance of OMA requirements • Contents • Current profile • Notifications • Content Transformation • Reconnect • … IETF 64 - Vancouver, BC

  22. Detailed proposals • Filter / NotificationsSIEVE WG draft-maes-lemonade-notifications-filters-how-todraft-maes-lemonade-notifications-server-to-clientdraft-newman-lemonade-msgeventdraft-maes-lemonade-vfolder • Content Transformation draft-ietf-lemonade-channel derivatives for streaming • Submission & remote composedraft-maes-lemonade-deliver • Application Compression draft-maes-lemonade-lzip • Firewallsdraft-maes-lemonade-http-binding   IETF 64 - Vancouver, BC

  23. IMAP All of Phase 1 Notifications Content Transformation UID SIEVE Compression Firewall traversal ESMTP All of Phase 1 SIEVE Phase 2 - MUST implement Draft -- Comments? IETF 64 - Vancouver, BC

  24. Charter Dates Goals and Milestones: Done Submit LEMONADE goals and use-cases specification to the IESG Done Submit server to server notification requirements to the IESG Done Submit translation to other messaging systems to the IESG Apr 05 Submit IMAP/SUBMIT extensions for forward without download to IESG Apr 05 Submit IMAP4 profile for mobile devices to the IESG Jun 05 Submit IMAP4 extensions for streaming multimedia to the IESG Aug 05 Submit server to server notification protocol to the IESG IETF 64 - Vancouver, BC

  25. Next Steps • We need documents… • Ongoing coordination with OMA • Interim meeting? • Last week of January • Options? • Default - Boston hosted by Excel • California? • Asia? IETF 64 - Vancouver, BC

  26. Thanks! • Mail List: • General Discussion: lemonade@ietf.org • To Subscribe: lemonade-request@ietf.org • In Body: in body 'subscribe' • Archive: ftp://ftp.ietf.org/ietf-mail-archive/lemonade/ • Supplemental Work Group Page http://flyingfox.snowshore.com/i-d/lemonade/ IETF 64 - Vancouver, BC