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Don ’ t take it Personal, it could be Real.

Don ’ t take it Personal, it could be Real. Why do we need to know the difference?. Presenters. Richard Pino, PLRP, LLC. Robert Merryman, O. R. Colan Associates Inc. The story from the relocation side. The story from the appraisal side. Darryl Root

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Don ’ t take it Personal, it could be Real.

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  1. Don’t take it Personal, it could be Real. Why do we need to know the difference?

  2. Presenters Richard Pino, PLRP, LLC Robert Merryman, O. R. Colan Associates Inc. The story from the relocation side • The story from the appraisal side Darryl Root Overland, Pacific, Cutler Inc., Moderator

  3. What is the problem? We need to precisely determine what is being acquired and what is being moved. • Reasonably clear for residential property • Not so clear for non-residential property

  4. What Do We Need To Do • Determine what is real estate and what is personal property • Value the real estate • Inventory the personal property • Move or purchase the personal property

  5. How do we know the difference • How is an item attached • Does the removal of an item damage the item or building • What was the intent of the parties • Lease

  6. Real Estate • Physical land and appurtenances attached to the land, e.g., structures. • An identified parcel or tract of land, including improvements, if any.

  7. Real Estate

  8. Real Property • All interests, benefits and rights inherent in the ownership of physical real estate. • The bundle of rights with which the ownership of the real estate is endowed.

  9. Real Estate / Real Property In most states, the two terms are considered interchangeable and both include the physical property along with the rights and interests of ownership.

  10. The Uniform Act 49 CFR Section 24.102 (e)(3) Requires that the owner or tenant be given a written statement of the basis for the offer of just compensation which includes: “An identification of buildings, structures and other improvements (including removable building equipment and trade fixtures) which are included … [and] … any other separately held ownership interest in the property e.g., a tenant-owned improvement, and indicate that such interest is not covered by this offer”. [emphasis added]

  11. Personal Property • Identifiable portable and tangible objects that are considered by the general public to be “personal” • All property that is not classified as real estate • Includes movable items that are not permanently affixed to, and part of, the real estate

  12. PERSONAL PROPERTY

  13. The Uniform Act 49 CFR Section 24.103 (a)(1) Identification of realty and personalty in the appraisal “The appraisal report should identify the items considered in the appraisal to be real property, as well as those identified as personal property” [emphasis added]

  14. HOW ARE THEY HANDLED Real Estate Personal Property We move personal property • We buy real estate

  15. The Uniform Act 49 CFR Section 24.205(c)(2)(i)(C) Addresses services to be provided and states: “For businesses, an identification and resolution of personalty/realty issues. Every effort must be made to identify and resolve realty/personalty issues prior to or at the time of, the appraisal of the property.” [emphasis added]

  16. Determining classification • Information is needed by the appraiser, negotiator, relocation personnel and the owner • Best Practice: Develop a “Realty/Personalty Report” • Produced prior to completion of the appraisal • Input from property owner, tenant, appraiser and relocation personnel • Copy provided to all parties

  17. Our realty/personalty reports shows: • The item name, location, any other reference • Who (owner, tenant, third party) owns the item or notes that ownership is in dispute • Classification of item- realty or personalty

  18. How do we value real estate • The three classic approaches to value: • Comparable Sales • Income • Cost • Contributory Value of specific items

  19. How do we move personal property • Residential - actual cost and fixed options • Non-residential- actual cost; with options for: • Direct loss • Substitution

  20. The strange case of tenant owned improvements Considered to be real property if owned by the owner of the real property Valued as the greater of contributory value or salvage value Tenant must have right or obligation to remove; owner must waive interest in item

  21. Some Examples

  22. Case 1 John is a tenant in an industrial building He installed an overhead crane system He has the right and/or obligation to remove this improvement when he vacates The owner agrees that John owns the crane What are the options for the agency? What should John do?

  23. Case 2 Sally loves to cook and has an oversized commercial stove in her home It is custom fitted between cabinets in her kitchen What are the options for the agency? What should Sally do?

  24. Case 3 An antique chandelier has been in the Smith family for 150 years. They moved it from their prior home and they inform you that they would never leave it behind when their home is sold to the Agency. What are the options for the agency? What should the Smiths do?

  25. Case 4 A display pond in front of a “pond store” was called personal property. The Agency made that determination since the pond was part of the store inventory and used as a display. What are the options for the agency? What should the business owner do?

  26. Case 5 Owner occupant of manufacturing/distribution facility. Best practices separating real and personal property by touring together

  27. Case 6 Church - Highest & Best Use is Church Comparable sales contained built-in organs Is built-in church organ personal property?

  28. Case 7 Special ventilation system for tenant’s use installed by property owner. Is it real or is it personal?

  29. The law is not precise regarding the distinction between personal and real property. In general, an item is considered to be real property if: • A typical buyer of the real property would consider the item to be part of the real property; or • The item cannot be removed without injuring the structural integrity of the building, structure or other permanentimprovement • Always check your state law

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