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Where Are We Going? What’s God’s Plan For Believers, Sse.

Where Are Christians Going? Whatu2019s Godu2019s Plan For Believers, and also for unbelievers?

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  1. Where Are We Going? What’s God’s Plan For Believers

  2. BIBLE IN FIVE Pastor Dave Kooyers Country Bible Church Box 416 Boonville CA 95415 https://www.slideserve.com/ http://www.slideshare.net/dkooyers www.ValleyBibleFellowship.org https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uiLVf7Boyjw (707) 895-2325 God bless you as you examine His Word, Your servant in Christ, 2Cor. 4:5 These Microsoft PowerPoint presentations are provided "for the equipping of the saints for the work of service, to the building up of the body of Christ" (Ephesians 4:12-15). To help Christians to "to grow up in all aspects into Him who is the head, even Christ." So that "we are no longer...tossed here and there...by every wind of doctrine." They may be downloaded and modified free of charge. Matthew 10:8 …Freely you received, freely give.

  3. Where Are We Going? Our Mansions, New Heavens, or New Jerusalem • I received a question concerning: • New Earth. VS Mansion in Heaven with many rooms. • Who will reside on the New Earth and who is in the mansion in Heaven. • Do we leave the mansion and come with the Lord to earth ????? • New Earth vs New Heaven

  4. 1st The Big Picture • All humans die, destiny differs by group; • OT Saints • NT Saints • Dead In Christ • Tribulation Saints • Living Sheep And Goat Judgment • Living Millennial Saints • Millennial Dead Saints

  5. Dr. Andy Woods

  6. OT Saints; “go to your fathers” • NAU Genesis 15:15 "As for you, you shall go to your fathers in peace; you will be buried at a good old age. • First use of “fathers” or “buried” • The LORD sent word to David in 1 Chronicles 17:11 "When your days are fulfilled that you must go to be with your fathers… • Every righteous human from Adam to John the baptist (Matt 11:11) went to their fathers.

  7. OT Saints; “go to your fathers” • NAU Genesis 37:35 …”Surely I will go down to Sheol in mourning for my son." So his father wept for him. • NAU Matthew 11:23 "And you, Capernaum, will not be exalted to heaven, will you? You will descend to Hades; • Easton's Bible Dictionary defines; “Hades: that which is out of sight, a Greek word used to denote the state or place of the dead. All the dead alike go into this place. To be

  8. OT Saints; “go to your fathers” • buried, to go down to the grave, to descend into hades, are equivalent expressions. In the LXX. this word is the usual rendering of the Hebrew sheol, the common receptacle of the departed (Gen. 42:38; Ps. 139:8; Hos. 13:14; Isa. 14:9). This term is of comparatively rare occurrence in the Greek New Testament. Our Lord speaks of Capernaum as being “brought down to hell” (hades), i.e., simply to the lowest debasement, (Matt. 11:23)…”

  9. 2 Exceptions? NAU Genesis 5:24 Enoch walked with God; and he was not, for God took him. NAU 2 Kings 2:11 …Elijah went up by a whirlwind to heaven. All OT Humans Go To Sheol

  10. All OT Humans Go To Sheol • The OT was “until John”; Luke 16:16 "The Law and the Prophets were proclaimed until John; since that time the gospel of the kingdom of God has been preached… • Let’s read Luke 16:19-31 • So, what about NT Christians, every one who’s sin debt has been paid in full, who is “in Christ”, is the bride of Christ, a co-heir of Christ, the body of Christ, His church?

  11. 1st The Big Picture • All humans die, destiny differs by group; • OT Saints • NT Saints • Dead and Alive “In Christ” • Tribulation Saints • Living Sheep And Goat Judgment • Living Millennial Saints • Millennial Dead Saints

  12. OT and NT Saints Are Different • NAU Matthew 11:11 "Truly I say to you, among those born of women there has not arisen anyone greater than John the Baptist! Yet the one who is least in the kingdom of heaven is greater than he. • Different beginning (Sinai, Pentecost), ministry (Kosher, proclaim Christ), purpose (reflect YHWH, Jesus), location (Israel, the world), evidences (circumcision, Holy Spirit sealed), promises (land, seed, blessing, tribulation), and ending (Matthew 13, 70AD, rapture).

  13. OT Saints or “in Christ” • Nowhere in the OT, gospels, or Revelation 4-22, do you find any saints being called; Christians, or “in Christ”, or the bride of Christ, who is a co-heir of Christ, the body of Christ, His church, a child of God? Like you find of every one is “born again”, who’s sin debt has been paid in full, and received the gift of eternal life in Christ. • We also don’t get any land promises, vines and fig trees, 613 commandments, blessing and cursing covenants. Instead, NAU Philippians 3:20 For our citizenship is in heaven… • NAU 2 Corinthians 5:20 Therefore, we are ambassadors for Christ, as though God were making an appeal through us; we beg you on behalf of Christ, be reconciled to God.

  14. All NT Christians Go To Christ At Death • NAU 2 Corinthians 5:6 Therefore, being always of good courage, and knowing that while we are at home in the body we are absent from the Lord— 7 for we walk by faith, not by sight-- 8 we are of good courage, I say, and prefer rather to be absent from the body and to be at home with the Lord. • NAU Philippians 1:23 But I am hard-pressed from both directions, having the desire to depart and be with Christ, for that is very much better;

  15. 1st The Big Picture • All humans die, destiny differs by group; • OT Saints • NT Saints • Dead and Alive “In Christ” =Rapture • Tribulation Saints • Living Sheep And Goat Judgment • Living Millennial Saints • Millennial Dead Saints

  16. Dr. Andy Woods

  17. John 14:2-3, 16 Proofs of a Pre-Tribulation Rapture, By Kent Crockett • 16 Proofs of a Pre-Tribulation Rapture • By Kent Crockett • Proof #1: Revelation 19:11-21 doesn't mention a resurrection. • The rapture is a resurrection of those "in Christ" (1 Thess. 4:13-18). Isn't it a little bit odd that in Rev. 19:11-21, which is the clearest picture of the second coming of Christ, there is no mention of a resurrection? The rapture will be the biggest event since the resurrection of Jesus where hundreds of millions of Christians will be resurrected and translated, yet there isn't any mention here. Don't you think it deserves at least one verse? The rapture isn't mentioned because it doesn't happen at the second coming. • Proof #2: Zechariah 14:1-15 doesn't mention a resurrection. • This is an Old Testament picture of Jesus returning to earth at the second coming. Again, no mention of a resurrection. • Proof #3: Two different pictures are painted. • In the Old Testament, there were two different pictures painted of the Messiah-one suffering (Isa. 53:2-10, Ps. 22:6-8, 11-18) and one reigning as King (Ps. 2:6-12, Zech. 14:9,16). As we look back on these scriptures, we see they predicted two separate comings of the Messiah-the 1st coming as a suffering Messiah and the 2nd coming (still future) as a reigning King. • In the New Testament, we have another picture added. Again, we have two pictures painted which don't look the same. These two different descriptions of Jesus' coming point to two separate events we call "the rapture" and "the second coming." • Proof #4: The Known Day and the Unknown Day • Concerning the return of Jesus, the Bible presents a day we can't know and a day we can know. Matthew 25:13 says Jesus will return at an unknown time, while Revelation 12:6 says the Jews will have to wait 1,260 days for the Lord to return. The 1,260 days begins when the Antichrist stands in the Temple and declares himself to be God (Matt. 24:15-21, 2 Thess. 2:4) This event will take place at the mid-point of the seven year Tribulation (Dan 9:27). The Antichrist has authority to rule for 42 months, which is 1,260 days (Rev. 13:4) and will be destroyed by Jesus at His second coming (Rev. 19:20, 2 Thess. 2:8). The known and unknown days must happen at different times, meaning they are two separate events. • Proof #5: A door open in heaven (Revelation 4:1) • The door in heaven is opened to let John into heaven. We believe John's call into heaven is prophetic of the church being caught up at the rapture (see proof #6). In Revelation 19:11, heaven is opened again, this time to let the armies which are already in heaven out. This is the Church, which has been raptured at a previous time, following Jesus out of heaven at the second coming. • Proof #6: "Come up here." (Revelation 4:1) • A voice called for the apostle John to "Come up here," and immediately he was in heaven. This could be a prophetic reference to the rapture of the Church. The words "Come up here" are spoken to the two witnesses who are killed in the middle of the Tribulation, who are resurrected and ascend into heaven (Rev. 11:12). Therefore, the phrase "Come up here" could mean the church is raptured in Rev. 4:1. The word "church" is mentioned 22 times in Rev. 1-3, but is not mentioned again until Rev. 22:17. • Proof #7: The 24 elders have their crowns. • After John is called up into heaven, he sees the 24 elders with their crowns (Rev. 4:4-10). We know that Christians will receive their rewards (crowns) at the rapture (2 Tim. 4:8, 1 Pet. 5:4). We will be repaid at the resurrection of the righteous (Luke 14:14). The elders couldn't receive their crowns unless the resurrection (rapture) has taken place. • Proof #8 Holy ones are already with Jesus in heaven (Zech. 14:5, Rev. 19:14) • The armies in heaven, clothed in fine linen, follow Jesus out of heaven at His second coming (Rev. 19:14, Zech. 14:5, Col. 3:4). These are not angels because Rev. 19:8 tells us the fine linen is the righteousness of the saints. In order to come out of heaven we first have to go in, indicating a previous rapture. • Proof #9: Kept from the hour of testing (Rev. 3:10) • Revelation 3:10 says we will be kept out of the hour of testing which will come upon the whole earth (the Tribulation). Some have wrongly believed "keep" means to keep through, or protect through the Tribulation. Suppose you approach a high voltage area with a sign that says, "Keep Out." Does that mean you can enter and be protected? No, it means you are forbidden from entering the area. But this verse also says He will keep us from the hour of testing. It is not just the testing, but the time period. If a student is excused from a test, he still may have to sit in the class while others take the test. But if he is excused from the hour of testing, he can go home. The Church will be called home before the hour of testing. • Proof #10: Angels don't resurrect people when they gather them for judgment. • When the angels are sent forth to gather the elect at the second coming (Matt. 24:29-31), some have wrongly interpreted this as the rapture. There is one huge problem with this interpretation. If we are resurrected at this time, why would we need angels to gather us? In the resurrection, we will be like the angels (Matt. 22:30), able to travel in the air at will. Obviously, these people who are gathered are not resurrected, therefore it can't be the rapture. No one would claim the wicked are raptured at this time, yet Matthew 13:39-41, 49 says the angels will not only gather the elect, but also the wicked. This gathering is not a resurrection. • Proof #11: Both the wicked and the righteous can't be taken first. • First Thessalonians 4:13-17 says the righteous are taken and the wicked are left behind. Matthew 13:30, 49 says the wicked are taken first and righteous are left behind. This points to two separate events, the rapture and the second coming. • Proof #12: Jesus returns from the wedding. • When Jesus returns to earth at the second coming, He will return from a wedding (Luke 12:36). At the rapture, Jesus is married to His bride, the Church. After the wedding, He will return to earth. • Proof #13: Jesus will receive us to Himself, not us to receive Him (John 14:2-3). • Jesus said He would prepare a place for the Church in heaven, then He would come again to receive us to Himself. Why would Jesus prepare a place for us in heaven and then not take us there? At the rapture, He will come to receive us to Himself, "that where I am (heaven), there you may be also." If the rapture occurred at the same time as the second coming, we would go up to the clouds and then immediately come back to earth. That would contradict John 14:2-3. • Proof #14: The one who restrains is taken out of the way. • In 2 Thess. 2:6-7, Paul says "the one who restrains will be taken out of the way" before the Antichrist can be revealed. We believe this refers to the rapture because the Church is clearly the biggest obstacle to the Antichrist becoming a world ruler. • Proof #15: The separation of the sheep and goats (Matt. 25:31-46) • If the rapture occurred at the second coming, why would the sheep and the goats need to be separated immediately after the second coming? A rapture at the second coming would have already separated the sheep and the goats. With a Pre-Tribulation rapture, the people saved after the rapture will need to be separated after the second coming. • Proof #16: Who will populate the Millennium? • If the rapture occurs at the second coming and the wicked are cast into hell at that time, who will be left to populate the millennium? Only people in their natural (non-resurrected) bodies will be able to have children (Matt. 22:30). With a Pre-Tribulation rapture, the people saved after the rapture who are alive at the second coming will populate the earth during the Millennium. Don't squint! The complete article follows after the THE END slide.

  18. John 14:2-3, 16 Proofs of a Pre-Tribulation Rapture, By Kent Crockett • Proof #1: Revelation 19:11-21 doesn't mention a resurrection. • Proof #2: Zechariah 14:1-15 doesn't mention a resurrection. • Proof #3: Two different pictures are painted [2 comings, Messiah suffering/reigning]. • Proof #4: The Known Day and the Unknown Day • Proof #5: A door open in heaven (Rev 4:1) • Proof #6: "Come up here." (Rev 4:1) • Proof #7: The 24 elders have their crowns. • Proof #8 Holy ones are already with Jesus in heaven (Zech. 14:5, Rev. 19:14)

  19. John 14:2-3, 16 Proofs of a Pre-Tribulation Rapture, By Kent Crockett • Proof #9: Kept from the hour of testing (Rev. 3:10) • Proof #10: Angels don't resurrect people when they gather them for judgment. • Proof #11: Both the wicked and the righteous can't be taken first. • Proof #12: Jesus returns from the wedding. • Proof #13: Jesus will receive us to Himself, not us to receive Him (John 14:2-3). • Proof #14: The one who restrains is taken out of the way. 2 Thess. 2:6-7 • Proof #15: The separation of the sheep and goats (Matt. 25:31-46) • Proof #16: Who will populate the Millennium?

  20. John 14:3, “I will come” • NAU John 14:3 "If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come[verb indicative present middle] again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also. • The “I will come” is a verb indicative present middle. The “present” means that it could be translated literally as, “I am coming”. Charles E. McCracken says, “it carries a future force… to emphasize the certainty of Jesus return for his disciples…”

  21. THE RAPTURE AND JOHN 14 by Thomas Ice • “…I believe that John 14:1-3 speaks of Christ's return at the Rapture for His church… Arno Gaebelein tells us that Christ is unveiling a new revelation about the Rapture of the Church: • “But here in John xiv the Lord gives a new and unique revelation; He speaks of something which no prophet had promised, or even could promise. Where is it written that this Messiah would come and instead of gathering His saints into an earthly Jerusalem, would take them to the

  22. THE RAPTURE AND JOHN 14 by Thomas Ice • Father's house, to the very place where He is? It is something new. And let it be noticed in promising to come again, He addresses the eleven disciples and tells them, “I will receive you unto Myself, that where I am ye may be also." He speaks then of a coming which is not for the deliverance of the Jewish remnant, not of a coming to establish His kingdom over the earth, not a coming to judge the nations, but coming which concerns only His own…” http://pre-trib.org/data/pdf/Ice-TheRaptureandJohn14.pdf

  23. John 14:3, Rapture vs. 2nd Coming • Compass International said, “To distinguish between scriptures about Rapture and the Second Coming of Christ, you must determine if the verse is referring to the Lord coming "for" His saints (1 Thessalonians 4:16) or "with" His saints (1 Thessalonians 3:13). Tommy Ice, in his book Prophecy Watch (Harvest House), gives the following comprehensive list: • http://compass.sowingcircle.org/gml/gmlTemplateHTML.cfm?ContentID=196 • For additional information on the topic of the timing of the Rapture, Compass published an article in our monthly eNews titled Is Rapture This September? (You'll need to scroll down to April 2011).http://archive.constantcontact.com/fs011/1103404634488/archive/1103609533893.html

  24. http://compass.sowingcircle.org/gml/gmlTemplateHTML.cfm?ContentID=196http://compass.sowingcircle.org/gml/gmlTemplateHTML.cfm?ContentID=196 John 14:3, Rapture vs. 2nd Coming

  25. http://compass.sowingcircle.org/gml/gmlTemplateHTML.cfm?ContentID=196http://compass.sowingcircle.org/gml/gmlTemplateHTML.cfm?ContentID=196 John 14:3, Rapture vs. 2nd Coming

  26. Here’s a good video to watch. • 10 Truths about the Rapture • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pzGeoO84uv0&list=TLFgJ5mz6ATd8yMDAxMjAxNg • Published on Jan 8, 2016 • Defense of the Doctrine of the Rapture. Suitable for young and old. Recorded by Dr. Andy Woods. Andy is a professor of Bible and Theology at the College of Biblical Studies in Houston, Texas, USA. He also the Senior pastor of Sugar Land Bible Church. For more videos visit http://bestmin.org/biblestudyvideos/

  27. John 14:2-3, GotQuestions.org Where Will We Go After Meeting Him In The Air? • Q. When we are raptured, where will we land, after meeting Jesus in the air? Heaven? The New Jerusalem? Neither? • A.  According to 1 Thes. 4:16-17 we will meet the Lord in the air and after that we will always be with Him. In 1 Cor. 15:51-53 Paul said we’ll be changed from mortal to immortal in the process.  In John 14:2-3 Jesus said we’re going to “My Father’s house” where there are many mansions (literally; dwelling places, abodes) and where He has been preparing a place for us.  And the writer of Hebrews said, “But you have come to Mt. Zion, to the heavenly Jerusalem, the city of the living God.  You have come to thousands upon thousands of angels in joyful assembly …” (Hebrews 12:22). • Personally, I believe when these verses are all taken together, they mean we’ll be going to the New Jerusalem.

  28. John 14:3, Second Coming compass.org • “…Jesus is coming back to the earth! • Jesus IS coming back to reign as King on the Earth—and we will have the privilege of reigning with Him! • . . . they will be priests of God and of Christ and will reign with Him for a thousand years. —Revelation 20:6 Looking forward to His return as King of Kings is an incredibly exciting thought. The Bible says He will stand again on the Mount of Olives. in that day His feet will stand on the Mount of Olives . . . —Zechariah 14:4 • It's encouraging to know that, at some time in the future, every stand we took for Christ, every tear we shed, and every difficult endurance will eventually be revealed as an eternal investment.. . . God will judge the secrets of men through Christ Jesus. —Romans 2:16”

  29. John 14:3, He Will Deliver! • “The hope we have in Christ is an absolute certainty.  We can be sure that the place Christ is preparing for us will be ready when we arrive, because with Him nothing is left to chance.  Everything He promised He will deliver.” Billy Graham

  30. John 14:3, Rapture He Will Receive Us To Himself • NAU John 13:36 … you will follow later.” • NAU John 14:3 "If I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and receive you to Myself, that where I am, there you may be also. • The Gentile Bride, And The Rapture, Israel My Glory, November 7, 2015, Charles E. McCracken, page 25 • Article is after THE END slide

  31. 1st The Big Picture • All humans die, destiny differs by group; • OT Saints • NT Saints • Dead and Alive “In Christ” =Rapture • Tribulation Saints • Living Sheep And Goat Judgment • Living Millennial Saints • Millennial Dead Saints

  32. All Martyred Tribulation Saints Go Under The Altar • NAU Revelation 6:9 When the Lamb broke the fifth seal, I saw underneath the altar the souls of those who had been slain because of the word of God, and because of the testimony which they had maintained; 10 and they cried out with a loud voice, saying, "How long, O Lord, holy and true, will You

  33. All Martyred Tribulation Saints Go Under The Altar • You refrain from judging and avenging our blood on those who dwell on the earth?" 11 And there was given to each of them a white robe; and they were told that they should rest for a little while longer, until the number of their fellow servants and their brethren who were to be killed even as they had been, would be completed also.

  34. 1st The Big Picture • All humans die, destiny differs by group; • OT Saints • NT Saints • Dead and Alive “In Christ” =Rapture • Tribulation Saints • Living Sheep And Goat Judgment • Living Millennial Saints and Sinners • Millennial Dead Saints

  35. Dr. Andy Woods

  36. Sheep & Goats Judgment Is After 2nd Coming, Before M.K. • NAU Daniel 12:11 "From the time that the regular sacrifice is abolished and the abomination of desolation is set up, there will be 1,290 days. 12 "How blessed is he who keeps waiting and attains to the 1,335 days! 13 "But as for you, go your way to the end; then you will enter into rest and rise again for your allotted portion at the end of the age.” • NAU Psalm 23:5 You prepare a table before me in the presence of my enemies… 6 Surely goodness and lovingkindness will follow me all the days of my life, And I will dwell in the house of the LORD forever.

  37. All Alive Sinners (Goats) Go Into “into eternal punishment”, Alive • NAU Matthew 25:45 "Then He will answer them, saying, 'Truly I say to you, to the extent that you did not do it to one of the least of these, you did not do it to Me.' 46 "And these will go away into eternal punishment, but the righteous into eternal life."

  38. All Alive Tribulation Saints Go Into The 1000 Year Kingdom, Alive • NAU Matthew 25:46 "These will go away into eternal punishment [goats], but the righteous [sheep] into eternal life.”

  39. 1st The Big Picture • All humans die, destiny differs by group; • OT Saints • NT Saints • Dead and Alive “In Christ” =Rapture • Tribulation Saints • Living Sheep And Goats Judgment • Living Millennial Saints and Sinners • Millennial Dead Saints

  40. Dr. Andy Woods

  41. Kingdom Saints Are Alive In Reproducing Bodies, Having Babies • NAU Isaiah 65:20 "No longer will there be in it an infant who lives but a few days, Or an old man who does not live out his days; For the youth will die at the age of one hundred And the one who does not reach the age of one hundred Will be thought accursed. • NAU Isaiah 11:7 Also the cow and the bear will graze, Their young will lie down together, And the lion will eat straw like the ox. 8 The nursing child will play by the hole of the cobra, And the weaned child will put his hand on the viper's den. 9 They will not hurt or destroy in all My holy mountain, For the earth will be full of the knowledge of the LORD As the waters cover the sea.

  42. Kingdom Saints Will Have The 3rd Temple, Blood Sacrifices • NAU Ezekiel 43:18 And He said to me, "Son of man, thus says the Lord GOD, 'These are the statutes for the altar on the day it is built, to offer burnt offerings on it and to sprinkle blood on it.

  43. Kingdom Sinners And All Other Sinners Go To White Throne • NAU Isaiah 65:20 …Will be thought accursed. • There will be unsaved sinners in M. Kingdom • NAU Revelation 20:7 When the thousand years are completed, Satan will be released from his prison, 8 … to deceive the nations… to gather them together for the war… 9 …and surrounded the camp of the saints and the beloved city, and fire came down from heaven and devoured them.

  44. 1st The Big Picture • All humans die, destiny differs by group; • OT Saints • NT Saints • Dead and Alive “In Christ” =Rapture • Tribulation Saints • Living Sheep And Goats Judgment • Living Millennial Saints • Millennial Dead Saints • Mansions in Heaven

  45. Dead Tribulation And Kingdom Saints Will Be Resurrected • NAU Revelation 20:4 Then I saw thrones, and they sat on them, and judgment was given to them. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony of Jesus and because of the word of God, and those who had not worshiped the beast or his image, and had not received the mark on their forehead and on their hand; and they came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 5 The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were completed. This is the first resurrection. [1 of 7 1st resurrections]

  46. 1st The Big Picture • All humans die, destiny differs by group; • OT Saints • NT Saints • Dead and Alive “In Christ” =Rapture • Tribulation Saints • Living Sheep And Goats Judgment • Living Millennial Saints • Millennial Dead Saints • Mansions in Heaven

  47. John 14:2, The “mansions” In Heaven Is A KJV’ism • KJV John 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you. • NAU John 14:2 …many dwelling places…

  48. NAS NET CSB NAU …dwelling places… YLT NKJ KJV …mansions… NIBO ESV …rooms… BYZ BGT …μοναὶ… John 14:2, The “mansions” In Heaven Is A KJV’ism

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