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“There’s no ‘there’ there.”. Is “there” a noun or an adverb? Laura Blumenthal Douglas College. Adverb. Adverbial usages = at that place, to that place, usually at the end of a sentence or clause: They have a laundromat and a café there. Don’t go there!. Pronoun.

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There s no there there

“There’s no ‘there’ there.”

Is “there” a noun or an adverb?

Laura Blumenthal

Douglas College


Adverb

Adverb

Adverbial usages = at that place, to that place, usually at the end of a sentence or clause:

  • They have a laundromat and a café there.

  • Don’t go there!


Pronoun

Pronoun

If it’s a pronoun, why doesn’t the verb agree with it, or why doesn’t it change forms?

  • There is a man; there are two women.

  • This is a man; these are two women.  The form of the pronoun must change.


Pronoun1

Pronoun

If it’s a pronoun, why doesn’t the verb agree with it, or why doesn’t it change forms?

It works like “what”:

  • What is the answer?

  • What are the reasons?


Which is more frequent

Which is more frequent?

  • Pronoun: 47

  • Adverb: 3

  • Source: lextutor.ca


Typical student errors

Typical student errors

  • “They went to there”

  • “It was a place where were many people.”

    WHY?


Interference from l1

Interference from L1


Interference from l11

Interference from L1

“There is a library there.”

(Translate into a language you know.)


Interference from l12

Interference from L1

Spanish: Hayunabibliotecaahí. = It has a library there.

French: Il y aunebibliothèquelà-bas. = It has there a library down there.

German: EsgibteineBibliothekdort. = It gives a library there.

Turkish: Şuradakütüphanevar. = At there library exists.

Japanese: Asokonitoshokan-gaarimasu. = That place-in library (nominative) exists.

Mandarin: Nàlǐyǒuyīgètúshūguǎn. = That place there is a library.

Korean: Do suh guan enjugi e yo. = Library is at place.

Arabic: Tuwjadmaktabahunak = There is library there.


Resources

Resources


Resources1

Resources

A. Learners’ dictionaries


Resources2

Resources

A. Learners’ dictionaries

Oxford Advanced Learner’s Dictionary, 7th Edition (2005)

Adverb only!


Resources3

Resources

A. Learners’ dictionaries

  • Oxford ESL Dictionary (2004)

  • Longman Dictionary of Contemporary English, Advanced, 5th Edition (2009)

Pronoun and Adverb


Resources4

Resources

B. Grammar textbooks for learners


Resources5

Resources

B. Grammar textbooks for learners

Only “there is/are” without identifying

the P.O.S.


Resources6

Resources

C. Websites


Resources7

Resources

C. Website – jackpot!

Thereis a glass there, where the first there is a pronoun (the so-called 'existential there') and the other there is an adverb.– FumbleFingersNov 20 '13 at 4:11

http://english.stackexchange.com/questions/138413/how-to-know-what-part-of-speech-is-there-in-some-cases


Resources8

Resources

D. Grammar textbooks for teachers

  • Parrott, M. (2010) Grammar for English Language Teachers (2nded). Cambridge: Cambridge University Press.

  • Celce-Murcia, M. (1983) The Grammar Book: An ESL/EFL Teacher's Course. Rowley, MA: Newbury House.


Resources9

Resources

D. Grammar textbooks for teachers

  • “there is/are” – explained as “dummy”subject

  • confusion with the other there – not mentioned in Parrott

  • “non-referential” - contrasted in Celce-Murcia


Concordance worksheet

Concordance worksheet

Your task:

  • Identify the different types of usages.

  • Decide with your partner what to call each different type.

    (50-instance Brown concordance, on lextutor.ca)


Concordance worksheet my results

Concordance worksheetMy results:

Adverb: 3

there is (in various tenses + negative)

  • there is: 10

  • there are: 5

  • there was: 7

  • there wasn’t: 1

  • there were: 2

  • there has been: 5

  • there has not been: 1

  • there will be: 2

  • there’s not: 1

    NOTE: there [BE] no 11!

variations on there is: 22

  • + adverb

    • there also is

    • there certainly was not

  • Hedging

    • there may be

    • there seemed to be

    • there should be

    • Should there be …?

    • there would be

  • Other:

    • there existed


Implications for teaching

Implications(for teaching)

Teach both – contrast them.

RE-introduce “there” = pronoun, when introducing

  • a structure that it goes with, or

  • a function such as hedging


Implications for teaching1

Implications(for teaching)

Include it in exercises about

  • modals (there will be, there would be),

  • past tense modals (there could have been, there must have been)

  • hedging(there seems to be, there are evidently, there could be, there is evidence of)


Implications for teaching2

Implications(for teaching)

Don’t forget question formation:

  • Will there be?

  • Would there be?

  • Could there have been?

  • Does there seem to be [hard!]?

  • Are there evidently [awkward]?


Thank you

Thank you!

With special thanks to my language support:

  • Yoriko Gillard

  • Haisen (Edwin) Zhang

  • Eun-Yu (David) Kim

  • Huda Al-Tayar

  • AmalAyyash

    Laura Blumenthal ([email protected])


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