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ASEE Conference for Industry & Education Collaboration January 25, 2006 San Antonio, Tx. Bryan Dansberry, Assistant Professor Lou Trent , Assistant Director & Associate Professor Division of Professional Practice University of Cincinnati. University of Cincinnati P.O. Box 210115

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Making the connection federal government agencies cooperative education programs

ASEE Conference for Industry &

Education Collaboration

January 25, 2006

San Antonio, Tx

Bryan Dansberry, Assistant Professor

Lou Trent, Assistant Director & Associate Professor

Division of Professional Practice

University of Cincinnati

University of Cincinnati

P.O. Box 210115

Cincinnati, OH 45221-0115

E-mail: [email protected] or [email protected]

Making the Connection: Federal Government Agencies & Cooperative Education Programs


Outline

Dustin Ochoa, AsE ’05

NASA-Johnson Space Center

Outline

  • Background of Speakers

  • An abridged tour of Gov’t Co-op

  • Do’s and Don’ts of making the connection

  • Security Clearances

  • Debate, discussion, and monologues…..


Background bryan

Background: Bryan

  • Co-op Student (AsE Class of ’87)

  • Co-op Supervisor

  • Co-op Faculty (2002 - ????)

Transonic Dynamics Tunnel NASA-Langley


Background lou

Defense Contract Management Agency

Background: Lou

  • Intern in Counseling Psychology.

  • Ph.D. in Counseling Psychology.

  • Professional Practice Advisor, 1978.

  • Mainly work with Mechanical Engineers.

  • Worked with federal agencies for 27+ years.


Gov t co op programs the grand tour

Gov’t Co-op Programs: The Grand Tour

  • NASA - Johnson

  • Redstone Arsenal

  • Naval Research Labs

  • Website Tour

    • DOE

Kyle Blakley, CE ’08

Butler County Engineer’s Office


Gov t co op programs johnson space center

Gov’t Co-op Programs: Johnson Space Center

  • JSC’s largest student employment program

  • Average about 160 students/year

  • Cover a wide range of majors

  • #1 Source of New Hires

JSC Fall ’05 Co-op Group Photo


Gov t co op programs johnson space center1

Gov’t Co-op Programs: Johnson Space Center

  • Centrally Operated Program

  • Very Organized

  • Social Activities

  • Students rotate departments

Co-op students acquiring experimental data to

determine maximum rate of hotdog consumption


Gov t co op programs johnson space center2

Gov’t Co-op Programs: Johnson Space Center

“During his first work term at NASA, Joshua Hunter from Georgia Tech, modified and prepared for use a device known as the Multiple User Cooling Unit (MUCU) for astronauts’ space suits. Hunter’s design was based on an initial prototype created by another student employee—Garret Fitzpatrick from the University of Wisconsin. The MUCU, now in use, keeps astronauts comfortable when they are outside the shuttle simulator at Johnson Space Center. “- Debbie Pierson, GA. Tech.

“Thilini Rangedera, an aerospace engineering co-op from Georgia Tech, has made great contributions to the International Space Station Training Group. She is the first co-op student to become certified to teach two electrical power systems lessons to flight controllers as part of their preparation for an upcoming Space Station mission. She accomplished this goal during a four-month co-op tour.” - Robert P. Musgrove, NASA JSC


Gov t co op programs other nasa centers

Gov’t Co-op Programs: Other NASA Centers

Ames Research Center

Dryden Flight Research Center

Glenn Research Center

Goddard Space Flight Center

Jet Propulsion Laboratory

Kennedy Space Center

Langley Research Center

Marshall Space Flight Center

Stennis Space Center

At many NASA centers co-op students rotate thru wind-tunnel facilities where they learn classic mime techniques such as “Walking against the wind.”


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Gov’t Co-op Programs: Other NASA Centers


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Gov’t Co-op Programs: Other NASA Centers


Gov t co op programs redstone arsenal

Gov’t Co-op Programs: Redstone Arsenal


Gov t co op programs redstone arsenal1

Gov’t Co-op Programs: Redstone Arsenal


Gov t co op programs redstone arsenal2

Gov’t Co-op Programs: Redstone Arsenal


Gov t co op programs u s army

Gov’t Co-op Programs: U.S. Army


Gov t co op programs don t expect to get rich

Gov’t Co-op Programs: Don’t expect to get rich!


Gov t co op programs naval research labs

Gov’t Co-op Programs: Naval Research Labs


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Gov’t Co-op Programs: Naval Research Labs


Naval research lab s spacecraft engineering department overview for co ops expecting graduates

NAVAL RESEARCH LAB

Naval Research Lab’s Spacecraft Engineering DepartmentOverview for Co-Ops & Expecting Graduates


Outline1

Outline

  • Organization

  • History

  • Mission Statement and Implications

  • Environment & Culture

  • Types of Work

  • Facilities

  • Hiring Facts

  • Interviews


Organization

Organization

Naval Research Lab - NRL

You Would

Work Here

Naval Center for Space Technology

(Code 8000: 1 of 8 Divisions in NRL)

Space Systems

Development

Department

(Code 8100)

Spacecraft

Engineering

Department

(Code 8200)


History timeline firsts

History: Timeline & Firsts

84 Satellites Launched

Great Space History and Experience at NRL


Mission statement implications

Mission Statement & Implications

Mission Driven…NOT Profit Driven


Environment culture

Environment & Culture

  • Relatively Close Knit Group : SED (8200) about 125 People

    • Will Not Get Lost in a Large Organization

    • Management is On a First Name Basis

  • Low Structure…“Nuts Running Loose”

    • Management & Admin Support per Employee is Relatively Low

    • Fosters Creativity & Flexibility

    • Provides Tremendous Opportunities to Succeed

    • Judged on Capability Not Rank - Often Receive Jobs and Responsibilities Well Above Your Rank

    • However Requires Additional, Pro-Active Effort to Not be Left Behind

  • Matrix Organization so Inherent Conflict: 2 Bosses- Formal & Project Boss

  • Value “Showing Not Telling”

    • Emphasis on Technical Understanding & Ability to Get the Job Done

    • We are “Engineers of Research”, not the “Ponderers of Research”

Personality is Important,

Some Thrive in This Environment, Others Do Not


Types of work

Types of Work

  • Mission Design

  • Spacecraft Design, Integration, & Test

    • Structures

    • Mechanisms

    • Cmd Tlm & Data Handling

    • Thermal

    • Guidance, Nav, and Control

    • Power

    • RF Comms

    • Flight & Ground Software

    • Propulsion

    • Integration & Test

    • Payloads: Imaging, RF, Comms, etc.

  • Launch Vehicle Interfacing & Ops

  • Ground Station & Flight Operations

  • Orbitology & Mission Planning

  • Technology Development


Facilities

Facilities

  • State-of-the-Art Design & Testing Facilities

  • Mediocre Personal Facilities: Emphasis is on Functional, Not Nice

    • No Nice Lobby Entrance, Furniture is Hit or Miss, etc.


Hiring facts

Hiring Facts

  • Co-oping is a Great Benefit to Both NRL & the Student

    • NRL can Train and Evaluate Student

    • Student can Learn, Evaluate NRL, and Sort Out Personal Job Preferences and Expectations

    • Procedurally, Allows an Immediate Hiring Decision Upon Graduation

  • Summer Internships

    • Will Consider but Generally Not Worth the Time from an NRL Administrative Point-of View

  • Non-Coop Graduates

    • Must Openly Advertise & Compete for Job

      • Personnel Division Selects Applicants, Not SED (8200)

      • Usually Hard to have a Stand-Out Resume Straight Out of School

    • Generally (NOT Always) Hire Through Another Company Until You Gain Enough Experience to “Stand-Out” in an Open Competition


Gov t co op programs dept of energy

Gov’t Co-op Programs: Dept. of Energy


Gov t co op programs dept of energy1

Gov’t Co-op Programs: Dept. of Energy


Gov t co op programs dept of energy2

Gov’t Co-op Programs: Dept. of Energy


Making the connection federal government agencies cooperative education programs

  • Department of Commerce Internship for Postsecondary Students

  • Department of Energy Special Emphasis Program

  • DOE Community College Institute at Oak Ridge National Laboratory-

  • DOE Faculty and Student Teams Program at Oak Ridge National Laboratory-

  • DOE Pre-Service Teacher Internships at Oak Ridge National Laboratory-

  • DOE Science Undergraduate Laboratory Internships at Oak Ridge National Laboratory-

  • Energy Student Achievement Program-

  • Environmental Management Participation for the U.S. Army Environmental Center-

  • Federal Aviation Administration Asian American/Pacific Islander and Native American/Alaskan Native Internship Program-

  • Fusion Energy Sciences Fellowship Program-

  • Global Change Education Program-

  • Great Lakes Colleges Association/Associated Colleges of the Midwest Oak Ridge Science Semester-

  • Higher Education Research Experiences at Oak Ridge National Laboratory for Students-

  • Internship at the Office of Water-

  • Laboratory Technology Program-

  • National Energy Technology Laboratory Professional Internship Program-


Making the connection federal government agencies cooperative education programs

  • National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration (NOAA) Student Research Participation-

  • National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration Educational Partnership Program with Minority Serving Institutions

  • Nuclear Regulatory Commission Historically Black Colleges and Universities Student Research Participation-

  • Oak Ridge National Laboratory Undergraduate Student Cooperative Education Program-

  • Office of Civilian Radioactive Waste Management Historically Black Colleges and Universities Undergraduate Scholarship Program-

  • Research Participation at the Federal Bureau of Investigation, Counterterrorism/Forensic Science Research Unit-

  • Research Participation at the U.S. Army Edgewood Chemical Biological Center-

  • Research Participation at the U.S. Army Medical Research Institute of Chemical Defense-

  • Research Participation at the U.S. Army Research Laboratory-

  • Research Participation Program at the U.S. Army Center for Health Promotion and Preventive Medicine- Savannah River Site Professional Internship Program-

  • Student Research Participation at the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention-

  • Student Research Participation at the National Center for Toxicological Research-

  • U.S. Army Medical Research and Materiel Command (USAMRMC)-

  • U.S. Department of Homeland Security Scholarship and Fellowship Program-


Making the connection federal government agencies cooperative education programs

  • Oak Ridge National Laboratory Undergraduate Student Cooperative Education Program-


Making the connection federal government agencies cooperative education programs

  • Oak Ridge National Laboratory Undergraduate Student Cooperative Education Program-


Gov t co op programs dept of energy3

Gov’t Co-op Programs: Dept. of Energy


Gov t co op programs science gov

Gov’t Co-op Programs: science.gov


Working effectively with federal agencies

Working Effectively With Federal Agencies

Christopher Hummer, AsE ’08

Received Engineer of the Quarter Award

Aeronautical Systems Center


Do s don ts basic understanding

Do’s & Don’ts: Basic Understanding

  • U.S. Citizenship

  • No Felonies (may vary)

Zack Norman, Graphic Des. ‘06

National Park Service


Do s don ts good practices

Do’s & Don’ts: Good Practices

  • Timing

  • Web applications

  • Tailor resume/experience

  • Know your employer

Andrew Sampson EE ’06

Kennedy Space Center


Do s don ts timing

Do’s & Don’ts: Timing

The Simple Hiring Process

  • Refer credentials 2.5 months before hiring date

  • Credentials screened

  • Offers extended

  • Student responds

Robin Ventura AsE ‘06

NASA Langley Research Center


Do s don ts timing1

Do’s & Don’ts: Timing

More Complex Hiring Process

  • Students apply on-line

  • Student notifies university to send transcript & letter of eligibility

  • University sends transcript & letter

  • Student gets letter from agency

  • Student responds

  • Panel of managers review applications

  • Hiring decisions made – phone interviews

  • Unofficial co-op offer extended

  • Student responds

  • Background information gathered

  • Official offer extended

  • Student responds


Do s don ts security clearance

Do’s & Don’ts: Security Clearance

  • Vary from agency to agency

  • Types

  • Timing

Ryan Stobbs ME ’07

Nevada Automotive Test Center


Do s don ts good practices1

Do’s & Don’ts: Good Practices

  • Timing

  • Web applications

  • Tailor resume/experience

  • Know your employer

Robin Ventura AsE ‘06

NASA Langley Research Center


Do s don ts not so good practices

Do’s & Don’ts: Not So Good Practices

  • No citizenship/criminal record

  • Bad timing

  • Forget Follow-up

  • Students applying who have money issues

  • Stop sending referrals


Do s don ts knowing your employer

Do’s & Don’ts: Knowing Your Employer

Things to Consider

  • Requirements for employment

  • Program resources

  • Employment structure/process

  • Institutional purpose – benefits to supervisor

  • Employer “quirks”

Boyu Wang BME ‘07

Biomedical Ultrasound Lab


Do s don ts secret s of my success

Do’s & Don’ts: Secret’s of My Success

General Comments

  • Contact as close to the hiring manager level as possible

  • Make use of alumni contacts

  • Cruise the internet

  • Talk to Professors

  • Attend technical conferences

  • Site visits (student tours?)


Making the connection federal government agencies cooperative education programs

Co-op 1906 - 2006

Debate and Discussion

Lou Trent, Assistant Director & Associate Professor

[email protected]

Bryan Dansberry, Assistant Professor

[email protected]

University of Cincinnati

Division of Professional Practice

P.O. Box 210115

Cincinnati, OH 45221-0115


Making the connection federal government agencies cooperative education programs

Christopher Hummer

Aerospace Engineering, 2008

Wright Patterson

Air Force Base

“For my work, I was nominated for Engineer of the Quarter at Wright-Patterson, and I will be competing against career engineers for this award.”

“I have the ability to predict the behavior of

fluidsusing supercomputers.”


Making the connection federal government agencies cooperative education programs

Andrew Sampson

Electrical Engineering, 2006

NASA Kennedy Space Center

“you get to see your work launch into outer space, with a 1000 foot fireball trailing behind”


Making the connection federal government agencies cooperative education programs

Kyle BlakleyCivil and Environmental Engineering, 2008

“Topics range from storm water management, roadway layout and design, traffic signal and speed warrants, environmental studies…”

“One of the many bridge projects

completed by our office.”


Making the connection federal government agencies cooperative education programs

Ryan StobbsMechanical Engineering, 2007

Nevada

Automotive

Test Center

“The military came to the company wanting to test the durability of a new turret design”

“You fireseveral hundred 50 caliber machine gun bullets and drive it through the desert for several hundred miles”


Making the connection federal government agencies cooperative education programs

Robin VenturaAerospace Engineering, 2006

NASA

Langley Research Center

“to enhance an aerodynamic model for a simulation of a twin-engine transport aircraft”

“This simulation is now used in to train NASA research pilots to fly a highly advanced remote control model of the aircraft and obtain real aerodynamic data”


Making the connection federal government agencies cooperative education programs

Zach NormanGraphic Design2006

Harpers Ferry

Design Center

“ I had the opportunity to design an award that was presented to First Lady Laura Bush”


Making the connection federal government agencies cooperative education programs

Brian KodrichAerospace Engineering, 2007

Defense

Contract

Management

Agency

“I can’t go into any

details because of

government

restrictions;

General Electric

and Rolls Royce

proprietary

rights.”

“First Engine to test with

3,000+ sensors installed.”


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