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Medical Schools in Canada & USA UWO Pre-Medical Society Nov 30, 2009

Medical Schools in Canada & USA UWO Pre-Medical Society Nov 30, 2009 . Academic Information Session #2 Sung Ho Um. Objectives. Outline schools in Canada and the States Academic + non-Academic requirements Pre-interview and Post-interview formulas

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Medical Schools in Canada & USA UWO Pre-Medical Society Nov 30, 2009

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  1. Medical Schools in Canada & USA UWO Pre-Medical SocietyNov 30, 2009 Academic Information Session #2 Sung Ho Um

  2. Objectives • Outline schools in Canada and the States • Academic + non-Academic requirements • Pre-interview and Post-interview formulas • Admission Statistics (ex. GPA + MCAT averages) • USA schools in general

  3. Before moving on… • Note: some information are from unofficial sources such as online forums and/or blogs (ie. Premed101). • I will denote such information with a (*) • All schools reserve majority of the seats for the applicants from their province or state. • Some schools use “credit hour” system for counting courses. 6 credit hour = 1 credit at Western • If I did not mention prerequisites for a school, either no prerequisites or very standard courses. (ie. Biology, O chem)

  4. Western Canada • University of British Columbia • University of Alberta • University of Calgary • University of Saskatchewan • University of Manitoba

  5. University of British Columbia • Apply through Online Application System at www.med.ubc.ca • 3 years of undergrad required • Minimum overall average is 70% but < 80% for OOP is not competitive • Most recent 60 credit hours and prerequisite averages are also evaluated • Pre-interview: 50% (overall + recent 60 credit hours avg) + 50% non-academic. (MCAT + prereqavg are not evaluated at this stage.) • Prerequisites: 1 credit of English, Biology, G Chem, O Chem and Biochemistry • Post-interview: Full file review. • Interview format: Multiple Mini-interview (MMI)

  6. University of British Columbia • Class of 2013 stats: • Mean overall average: 84.06% • Mean last 60 credits: 86.25% • 60 credit hours = 10 credits at Western (ie. 2 years) • Mean Prerequisites: 81.86% • Mean MCAT: • VR: 9.68 • PS: 10.71 • WS: Q • BS: 11.42 • 12/256 OOP

  7. University of Alberta • Apply at www.registrar.ualberta.ca • 2 years of undergrad required • Minimum 3.5 for 4th years and 3.7 for 2nd or 3rd years • Minimum MCAT: >7 in each section • Pre-interview: GPA (no summer but prerequisites are included) • Post-interview: 30% GPA + 20% MCAT + 20% Sketch + 25% interview + 5% Reference • 15% seats for OOP • Prerequisites: 1 credit of English, Physics, Biology, O chem, G chem, ½ credit of stats and Biochem. • If in 4th year or more, lowest year is dropped. • Official GPA scale is unknown (*Similar to Calgary or OMSAS?)

  8. University of Alberta • Interview format: MMI • Class of 2013 stats: • Mean GPA: 3.80 (4th year), 3.95 (2nd+3rd years) • Mean MCAT: 32.13Q (4th year), 35.16R (2nd+3rd years)

  9. University of Calgary • Apply at https://ucan.ucalgary.ca/ • 2 years of undergrad required • Best 2 years for GPA for the initial file review • Minimum 3.6 GPA for OOP • Initial rank with the “Academic score” (top 250 OOP move on) • 62.517(GPA) + 12.122(MCAT,VR) + 6.757(MCAT,BS) • Pre-interview: 50% Academic (entire undergrad record) + 25% Sketch + 15% MCAT + 10% Reference • Post-interview: 40% Pre-interview + 50% MMI Verbal + 10% MMI Written • No prerequisite courses • GPA scale and Admission stats can be found on their App. Manual http://www.ucalgary.ca/mdprogram/prospective/admissions

  10. University of Saskatchewan • Apply at http://www.medicine.usask.ca/education/admissions/application-form • 2 years of undergrad required • Best 2 year average. (No summer/part-time) • Minimum of 80% for OOP, cutoff for interview has been > 90% in recent years. (92.4% in 2009) • For OOP, No prerequisites + MCAT minimum 26N (> 8) • Pre-interview: 100% 2 year average (OOP) • Post-interview: 100% Interview (OOP) • Interview format: MMI • Up to 8 spots (10%) for OOP

  11. University of Manitoba • Apply at http://www.umanitoba.ca/student/admissions/application/deadlines/medicine/ • Complete Bachelor’s by the end of application year. • Prerequisites: 1 credit of Biochemistry, 2 credits of humanities/social sci if 4-year Honours (if not, 3 credits). • MCAT: min. 7 or M in each section. (WS: T=14, M=7) • Operative MCAT score = .3(VR) + .2(PS) + .3(BS) + .2(WS) • Pre-interview: GPA + MCAT • Post-interview: 15% GPA + 40% MCAT + 45% non-academic • 4.5 GPA scale (successful applicants with > 4.0) • All undergrad courses are taken into account with the lowest credits being dropped.

  12. University of Manitoba Note: 1.0 credit of Biochemistry cannot be dropped OOP offered admission: Mean GPA = 4.23 Mean operative MCAT score = 12.14 OOP accepted offer: Mean GPA = 4.04 Mean operative MCAT score = 11.72

  13. Eastern Canada • OMSAS • University of Western Ontario • University of Toronto • Queen’s University • McMaster University • University of Ottawa • Northern Ontario School of Medicine • McGill University • \\ University of Montreal • \\ University of Sherbrooke • \\ Laval University • Dalhousie University • Memorial University \\: Francophone schools  not covered in this presentation

  14. University of Western Ontario • 4 year undergrad (Honours) required • No prerequisites • Best 2 full-time year(each year must be >3.75) • 1 of the years must be an upper year and have >60% courses correlating to the year of your study. • MCAT cutoff: • non-SWOMEN: VR:10, PS: 9, BS: 11, WS: Q • SWOMEN: 8,8,8, O (total >30)

  15. University of Western Ontario • Pre-interview: meet the GPA + MCAT cutoffs • Post-interview: 50% interview + 25% GPA + 25% MCAT • SWOMEN bonus post-interview(?) * • In 2008, they interviewed 89 SWOMEN, 69 offered admission, 40% class were SWOMEN. (Dean’s report) • Interview format: traditional (1 faculty, 1 senior med student, 1 community member)

  16. University of Toronto • 3 years of undergrad required • Prerequitsites:1 credit of social sci/humanities; 2 credit of life sciences • Min. GPA 3.6/4.0 • Drops lowest 3 credits if in 4th year • Must have carried 5 credits every year to be eligible • No summer courses are included • Min. MCAT: 9,9,9, N. • one score below in one section is still eligible for file review. (“flagged”)

  17. University of Toronto • Pre-interview: 40% non-academic (statement, sketch, reference) + 60% academic • Post-interview: 60% non-academic (statement, sketch, reference, interview) + 40% academic • Academic score includes GPA, academic rigour and coherence • Interview format: traditional (1 faculty, 1 med student) • Average accepted GPA: 3.89

  18. Queen’s University • 3 years of undergrad required • Prerequitsites: 1 credit of Biology, Physics, Humanities or Social Sci • cGPA of all courses (cutoff: 3.68*) • If cGPA does not make cut, recent 2 full-time years (cutoff: 3.78*) • MCAT cutoff varies every year. • Last year: PS: 9, VR:10, BS:9, WS: Q, Overall: 31 * • 2 years ago: 9/9/9 R (overall: 30) * • Interview invite once you meet the cutoffs • Post-interview: 100% interview • Interview format: traditional (1 faculty, 1 med student, 1 community)

  19. McMaster University • 3 years of undergrad required • 3 year medical program • No prerequisites • Min. GPA 3.0; min. MCAT 6 VR • Pre-interview: 32% cGPA + 32% MCAT VR + 32% Autobiographical submission + 4% Graduate degree (1% for Masters, 4% phD) • Post-interview: 70% MMI + 15% cGPA + 15% MCAT VR • Interview format: MMI • Class of 2012: mean GPA = 3.89 • Mean GPA projected to decrease due to the introduction of VR * • Number of applicants decreased by ~1000 this year (20%).

  20. University of Ottawa • 3 years of undergrad required • MCAT is not required • Prerequisites: 1 credit of Biology, Humanities or Social sci, and 2 credit from G Chem, O Chem or Biochem • The years with 4 credits or more count towards your wGPA (no summers/part time). • wGPA = (1 x 1st year + 2 x 2nd year + 3 x 3rd year) / 6 • Cutoff determined by the application pool

  21. University of Ottawa • Different cutoffs for different categories: • Applicants to the French program (OOP and IP (Ontario/Quebec) separate pool) • Canadian Forces • Aboriginals • Champlain district • Ottawa-region residents • Ontario • OOP • wGPA cutoff for “Ontario” category was ~3.85* last year • Pre-interview: 1st cut: wGPA then 2nd cut: Sketch • Post-interview: Interview + wGPA

  22. Northern Ontario School of Medicine • 4 year undergrad degree required • Joint program of Lakehead and Laurentian Universities • No Prerequisites, No MCAT • Min. 3.0 GPA (includes all undergrad courses) • Program mandate: • “Applicants from within Northern Ontario, rural and remote areas in the rest of Canada, and Aboriginal and Francophone applicants will have an advantage in the admissions process.” • Pre-interview: GPA + application score • Post-interivew: Pre-interivew + interview score • 2009 accepted mean GPA = 3.66 • Everyone accepted are from Northern Ontario or rural areas of Ontario since the program started (2005).

  23. McGill University • Apply at http://www.mcgill.ca/medicine/admissions/applying/online/ • 4 year undergrad required • 8/173 positions for OOP • Min. GPA 3.5 is recommended (all undergrad courses) • Min. MCAT 30 is recommended (BS,PS > 9, VS > 8) • write the MCAT no more than 3 times to be competitive • WS is still reviewed but no specific cut • Prerequisites: 1 credit of bio, chem, physics, 0.5 credit of O chem • Pre-interview formula?? (full file review but unknown breakdown) • * Post-interview: 20% GPA + 20% MCAT + 20% Autobio/CV + 40% Interview • Interview format: MMI

  24. McGill University Average admitted GPA = 3.83 2/3 of the students range 3.67-3.98 Average MCAT = 33Q 12BS, 11PS, 10VR

  25. Dalhousie University • Apply at http://admissions.medicine.dal.ca/ • 4 year undergrad required • 9/90 OOP spots • Min. GPA for OOP is 3.7 in each of last two full time years • Min. MCAT for OOP is 30 with >10, one 9 is allowed • OMSAS GPA scale is used • Pre-interview: full file review • Interview format: MMI • *Post-interview: 15% GPA + 10% MCAT + 5% discretionary points (grad degree, high WS score >R)+ 40% interview + 10% personal statement + 20% sketch (5% each: Interests; medically related experience; volunteer work; jobs) • MCAT average score = 30 (range 24 – 40) • GPA average score = 3.8 (range 3.3-4.0)

  26. Memorial University • Apply at https://www.med.mun.ca/admissionline/ • 4 year undergrad required • Prerequisite: 1 credit of English • 4/64 seats of OOP • All undergrad courses are included for GPA. (GPA scale??) • No specific MCAT or GPA cut, depends on the application pool. • Average accepted MCAT: 10 in each section and Q • Average GPA: 3.7 • Pre-interview + post-interview: full file review

  27. USA Schools that accept Canadians * Albany Albert Einstein Baylor Boston Brown Case Western Columbia Cornell Dartmouth Duke University Einstein Emory EVMS Georgetown George Washington Harvard Hawaii Jefferson John Hopkins Kentucky Loma Linda Maryland Mayo Medical School Meharry Medical College of Wisconsin Michigan State University Minnesota Mt. Sinai Northwestern NYMC NYU U of North Carolina – Chapel Hill Penn State Rosalind Franklin University Saint Louis University Stanford Stonybrook SUNY Upstate Tufts Tulane UCLA UCSF University of Connecticut University of Chicago University of Pennsylvania UT Southwestern (TMDSAS) UT Medical Branch Galveston (TMDSAS) Vanderbilt Virginia Commonwealth University Wake Forest Washington University (St. Louis) Wayne State Yale University ------------------------------------------------------ Green: Financial aid and/or scholarship offered to Canadians Red: undergrad in USA is required

  28. USA Medical Schools • AMCAS: 130 schools, TMDSAS: 8 schools • For the most accurate/official information, purchase MSAR book at AMCAS. • MCAT is very important; GPA not so much. • Common Prerequisites: Biochem (w/ lab), English, Calc, Bio, O Chem, Phys (w/ lab), Math • At majority of the top-mid tier schools, >90% accepted applicants had research experience, >80% medically-related work, >70% community service/volunteer. • Apply EARLY. Applications are reviewed as they come in. • Expect interview dates earlier than Canadian schools.

  29. USA Medical Schools • GPA scale for Western: • MSAR 09-10 stats: • Median oGPA (includes all undergrad courses) for top tiers are 3.8-3.9, mid tier 3.7-3.8 • Median MCAT for top tier are 36Q/R, mid tier 33P/Q • Class size typically <200, matriculated international <10

  30. Summary • There is a broad range of application processing methods in Canada – there is a school for every type of candidates. • Consider options in the States. With a strong MCAT, opportunities are there. (GPA scale for Western is very favourable.) • Plan early to meet prerequisites and keep as many doors open as possible. • Do some research on your own as well! Find your fit.

  31. Thank you • Questions? • Email me at sum2@uwo.ca with any questions.

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