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Grad School 101

Grad School 101. Not completely cogged from the internet. The title is, however, pretty non-original. What you need – Min Requirements. 1-2 internships or 3 Good Recos GRE/TOEFL <= 2 fields of focus (for internships, BTP, Seminar)

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Grad School 101

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  1. Grad School 101 Not completely cogged from the internet. The title is, however, pretty non-original.

  2. What you need – Min Requirements • 1-2 internships or 3 Good Recos • GRE/TOEFL • <= 2 fields of focus (for internships, BTP, Seminar) • Decent CPI (> 8 would be nice, > 9 is enough to get you top apps if you have the other 3)

  3. Timeline • First Year • Concentrate on coursework • Think about your career goals, and whether you want to go to graduate school • Sophie Year • Either take the GRE/TOEFL or do an internship. • UROP – take advice of seniors on the topics offered • Internship either locally at IIT or abroad Good to get one reco secured, maybe even a publication! • Third Year • Time to make decisions! • GRE / TOEFL • Internship / Seminar / BTP • Fourth Year • Work on BTP, app!

  4. First Year / Second Year • First year end: Go home! (For those who are a bit more enthu, read up on math) • Second year: • Imp. Courses: Pay attention! • UROP: Talk to Seniors. Big commitment. • Internship after second year advised • Start looking at your fields of interest (Already exposed to Theory, FM by end of second year) • If doing an internship at IIT, also club it with GRE/TOEFL

  5. Third Year • 4 solid decisions to be taken • PT field and prof / place • Seminar field and prof • BTP field and prof • Apping fields – can be delayed, but better now. • Kick up your CPI – last chance to improve DR • Give the GRE & TOEFL (Jan/Feb optimal, ToEFL one month later)

  6. Fourth Year • Apping decisions to be taken, deadlines to be met • Work hard on BTP first stage, last chance to impress BTP guide • Give the GRE & TOEFL if not done already

  7. Fields of interest • You need upto 2 fields of interest to app • Common ones at IITB • Fluid Mechanics/Thermal Engineering • Manufacturing • Solid Mechanics/ Strength of Materials • Dynamics and Vibration • Control Systems • Nano Engineering • Other fields • Industrial Engineering and Economics • Refrigeration, tribology, manufacturing

  8. Fields of interest (contd) • More the better, but too much is bad • One sub-dept decides to take you • Two is good to diversify (Controls +Vibration, or Thermal+Fluids, Manufacturing + Nano.) • Ideally, the two should have some solid connections that you can emphasize in your SOP • Not completely binding later on, unless you app to a prof or to a particular group (depends on univ) • Better to app in areas you have worked on • Choose 2 fields wisely asap!

  9. Fields of Interest (contd.) • Thermal, fluids – Kannan, Date, Gaitonde • Controls – Gandhi, Shashikanth, • Manufacturing – Joshi, KPK, • Solid Mech: Maiti, Seshu, Bose • Nano: AmitAgarwal, Puranik • Industrial Engg: Awate, Jayendran

  10. Reco Letters • Need 3. More the better! • Plan early. Start looking for these in 5th semester itself. • Sources • 2nd year internship guide (?) • 3rd year internship guide (s) (1-?) • Seminar guide (Same as BTP guide ?) • BTP guide (1) • 3rd year / 2nd year Winter internship guide (?) • Course instructors (?) • BTP / Seminar co-guide / examiner (?) • Look for recos from researchers with enough experience in the field, PhDs from good US universities and in general successful (connections to univs you wish to app to is a bonus)

  11. Apping – What matters • CPI / DR • Matters ENOUGH, but not as much as you may think • Can be substituted with good research work • High CPI + Decent-ish recos = a top-6 app • Recos • Very important • excellent reco from well known prof = damn good chance of a great app • Papers / Publications • A good publication can do wonders for your application • Good publication = good reco • Too tough for a UG, atleast in some areas • Internships • More the better • Prof with whom you work more important than the place you work in • SOP • Consult enough people and write good english • Not too important, but a bad sop can work against you • GRE / TOEFL • Not important for good universities • Aim to do well enough for it to not show up as a black mark on your app

  12. Apping – What Matters (contd.) • Moral of the story: • Univs look for research calibre • Stuff which proves that, for example • Good recos from researchers to that effect • Good research internships and projects • Good academic background • Therefore, aim to maximize these qualifications: Take good internships and impress profs!!

  13. Apping – The process • Number of univs to app to: • Varies with your profile • App to enough places, but not too many • Costs money, and can cause disadvantage to others • Coordinate: • A person with similar profile and higher CPI would invariably be chosen over you, unless they are picking many people • Good univs don’t take too many junta • Try to have a different profile from others apping to the same place (else clashes will hurt) • Aim high: app to a few places where you think you wont get, just for fun • Keep backups: app to a few places where you are sure you will get • 10 should be an upper bound for > 8.5 CPI junta, and 6-7 should be an upper bound for > 9 CPI junta.

  14. Apping – The process (contd.) • Choosing where to app: • Places / groups / people that have similar research interest to yours • DO NOT app to places where there is no one working on areas that you have worked on • Customize your application to highlight the work uve done in the area of the group which you want to get into • USNews is a good rough guide on top CS programs • Talk to your guide and google for places that match your interests • Overall goodness vs. Group goodness (for eg. PhD @ UIUC vs. Phd with Rajeev Alur at UPenn) - Depends on what you are looking for • wanting to explore (not sure) vs. fixed on area • brand name / industry exposure / prospects / collaboration vs. good advisor / better research

  15. Apping – The process (contd.) • (More) Lessons learnt • Choose BTP/Internship topics wisely. Avoid obscure/non-real-world topics (pick problems being worked on at the places you want to be when you graduate) • Do enough research, start short-listing universities early • Work with well known profs and show them your initiative and expertise => good recos, maybe paper, all good • Work hard on acads, always helps to have something tangible on your app • Take that extra step – attend conferences, meet people, look for opportunities to interact with potential gradschool advisors

  16. Apping – The myths  • Extra curriculars matter • You need a +9 cpi to get into a top-6 place • I can loaf off in my fourth year and still expect to get a good app • One must aim to publish at any cost • If I choose a field now, I have to do a PhD in it • Undergraduate time is for checking out as many fields as possible • Mech GRE is required

  17. Good Reasons to Go Enjoy research Careers with more autonomy Deep interest in and dedication to a single area More challenging work (?) Not Such Good Reasons What else will I do next year? Make more money Prestige of another degree Pressure from family, friends, others To Go, or Not to Go

  18. Now Your TA salary looks big compared to actually paying tuition! More family responsibilities later Larger peer group Might never go later Later More professional experience Greater focus Financial considerations Take a break from school to avoid burnout To Go Now, or To Go Later

  19. M.S. vs. Ph.D. • Different job opportunities • M.S. is primarily a professional degree • Master’s degree is an asset / requirement for many industry jobs • Teaching positions at community college level • Ph.D. is a research degree • Research and teaching positions in academia • Research positions in industry and national labs • Sometimes different programs • Focus of the Ph.D. is an original thesis • M.S. requires coursework, sometimes a Master’s thesis • Financial Issues (next slide)

  20. Financial Issues • Funding? • Ph.D. students are generally supported financially • M.S. students may or may not be supported (varies by program) • Types of Funding • Teaching Assistantships • Research Assistantships • Fellowships (usually for Ph.D.) • Employer sponsorship (usually for M.S.)

  21. General Advice • Nothing is permanent! • If you take a job, you can always go back to school • If you decide grad school isn’t for you, you can always get a job • Either way, don’t burn your bridges • Be flexible • Many people change research areas • Program might take longer than you expect • If unsure, you might as well apply and decide later 

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