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News from ALICE Calibration Workshop. Peter Chochula. Calibration workshop held Oct 04 Agenda: http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=a056304 All detector presentations available from this page General information about the calibration progress can be found here:

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News from alice calibration workshop

News from ALICE Calibration Workshop

Peter Chochula

17th DCS Workshop, P.Chochula


News from alice calibration workshop

  • Calibration workshop held Oct 04

  • Agenda:

    • http://indico.cern.ch/conferenceDisplay.py?confId=a056304

    • All detector presentations available from this page

  • General information about the calibration progress can be found here:

    • http://aliceinfo.cern.ch/Collaboration/Boards/Computing/Planning/index.html

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News from alice calibration workshop

  • Please pay attention to the XLS file containing detector requirements (published on the web page referenced in previous slide)

    • DCS Detector experts were requested to provide feedback/corrections

      • NO reply!

      • You will be asked to provide some details during your presentation later today or tomorrow (missing numbers, milestones)

  • We assume, that the quoted numbers are complete

    • Data volumes are very important for infrastructure (FES , DB)

    • Last minute corrections will be expensive (both in terms of manpower and hardware!

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Ways to provide calibration data to offline

Ways to provide calibration data to offline

  • 5 cases identified

    • Calibration is performed only by DAQ

    • Calibration is performed only by HLT

    • Calibration is performed only by DCS

    • Calibration is performed by DAQ and DCS either in dedicated runs or during physics runs

    • Calibration data is already stored in ConfDB and needs to be provided to offline

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Communication between online systems and offline

Communication between online systems and offline

  • Online systems are synchronized by ECS

    • Data exchange via DIM, Amanda or File Exchange Systems (FES or sometimes also called FXS)

  • DCS provides data to offline via Shuttle

    • Archived data is published by Amanda and collected by Shuttle

    • Some data is written to FES and collected by Shuttle

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File exchange systems

File Exchange Systems

DAQ

HLT

FES

FES

DCS

FES allow for exchange of huge data

files between ALICE systems

FES

OFFLINE

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Dcs calibration data flow for cases 3 4 5

DCS Calibration Data Flow for Cases 3,4,5

  • Case 3 (all data prepared by DCS)

    • Data is written to Archive and/or FES and collected by Shuttle

  • Case 4 (combined run with DAQ)

    • Data is contained in the DCS Archive, made available to Shuttle by Amanda

      • This mechanism is also used by HLT during the normal run

  • Case 5 (copy of configuration data is needed)

    • Data will be provided via FES

      • Involved detectors need to provide more details

      • Configuration data will not go into DCS Archive (only version number is archived)

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Dcs calibration data flow

DCS Calibration Data Flow

DAQ

HLT

FES

FES

Pendolino

DCS

Archive

FES

Shuttle

OFFLINE

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More dcs calibration data flow

More DCS Calibration Data Flow

DAQ

HLT

DIM

FES

FES

Pendolino

DCS

Archive

FES

Shuttle

OFFLINE

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Typical questions and answers

Typical Questions and Answers

  • Can be the ConfDB accessed by Shuttle?

    • No

  • How are the configuration parameters calculated by DAQ, Offline or HLT transferred to the DCS?

    • Via FES, dedicated software is needed (to be developed by detectors)

  • Can I transfer any data via Shuttle?

    • Technically yes, but offline will store only data needed for analysis

      • Use case needs to be described before we can provide more details

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Typical problems to be answered

Typical Problems to be Answered

  • Which approach is used for the calibration in your detector?

  • What is the exact size of the data and what is the refresh rate?

  • Is all the data really needed for archival?

    • Sometimes we see attempts to archive all what is measured at highest possible rate

      • Please try to provide really realistic answer, the archive has limited size and very high cost

  • Is really all data listed in the referenced XLS document?

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Actions for acc

Actions for ACC

  • Implement the FES

    • Provide framework for accessing the FES

      • Work to be done in October, existing DAQ FES architecture will be used as a basis for DCS FES

  • Assist detectors in implementation

    • Please contact us well in advance

      • The sooner we start the better implementation we can prepare

        • We are late already now!

    • Computing infrastructure is now available

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Conclusions

Conclusions

  • Visible progress, all detectors provided information during the calibration

    • Are we really sure that you talked to your offline experts?

  • Still some uncertainties in provided numbers

    • Missing data size and rate

    • Extremely demanding requirements – thousands of channels to be refreshed at ~Hz rate and archived without smoothing

    • Unclear procedures for obtaining the data

    • Strange data formats expected to be provided directly by the DCS (AliRoot Objects) which is not possible

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