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Reeves Debate Charts

Reeves Debate Charts. Monday Night Part 1. Resolved: The scriptures teach that the alien sinner is forgiven of his past sins by faith only, before and without water baptism Affirm: Gene Cook Jr. Deny: Bruce Reeves. Propositions. Gene Cook Jr.

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Reeves Debate Charts

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  1. Reeves Debate Charts Monday Night Part 1

  2. Resolved: The scriptures teach that the alien sinner is forgiven of his past sins by faith only, before and without water baptism • Affirm: Gene Cook Jr. • Deny: Bruce Reeves Propositions Gene Cook Jr. • Resolved: The scriptures teach that water baptism is essential in order for the alien sinner to obtain the forgiveness of his past sins. • Affirm: Bruce Reeves • Deny: Gene Cook Jr. Bruce Reeves

  3. What We Are & Are Not Denying What We Are Not & Are Denying • What we are NOT denying: • That God is the one who saves. • That salvation is by GRACE through – FAITH: (Eph 2:8,9; John 3:16; Rom 5:1; Heb 11:6) • What we are denying: • That salvation is unconditional – (2 Pet 3:9) • That men are justified by faith ONLY – (James 2:24) • That baptism is a nonessential to salvation! (1 Peter 3:21)

  4. This Discussion Is About – Three Points What This Discussion Is About: God's Universal Love and desire to save all men. Mans ability to respond to God’s love by choosing saving faith. The faith that submits to God’s sovereign will by obeying Him.

  5. Salvation By Faith – “Faith” Passages Salvation Through Faith!! • These passages tell us that we are saved by faith! • John 5:24; • John 3:15,16;18,36 • John 6:47; • John 8:24; • Acts 10:43; • Acts 15:9; • Acts 16:31; • Romans 5:1; • Ephesians 2:8,9 • 1 John 5:10-13 We accept them ALL! Hebrews 11:6 Which passage teaches salvation by FAITH ONLY? (James 2:14-24)

  6. Questions for Monday Night Questions for Monday Night • 1. True or False: “God unconditionally chooses who will be saved, and this leads to the logical conclusion that as a result of His not choosing others, He creates them and never gives them an opportunity to be saved.” • 2. If unconditional election be true, what is God’s motivation for not saving the majority of mankind: ______ • a) God is NOT powerful enough to provide them with a way of salvation. • b) God does NOT love them enough to provide them a way of salvation. • 3. True or False: “Jesus Christ died for the sins of every human being.” • 4. True or false: “An elect infant who dies in his infancy will be saved.” • 5. Is the baptism of Romans 6:3-6; Galatians 3:27; and Colossians 2:12 necessary for forgiveness of past sins? Yes or No

  7. Acts 8:12-17 - What Put The Samaritans Into Christ? What Put The Samaritans Into Christ? One enters Christ through “baptism” Romans 6:3-6; 1 Corinthians 12:13; Galatians 3:26,27 • The Samaritans were saved and “in Christ” in Acts 8:12. Yet, they had only been baptized in the name of Jesus Christ – (i.e. water baptism, Acts 10:47,48) • They had received no miraculous measure of the Holy Spirit! (thus no Holy Spirit baptism had occurred!) – (Acts 8:15-17) • Water baptism is the baptism of Romans 6:3-6; Galatians 3:27; & 1 Corinthians 12:13 which PUTS one INTO Christ!

  8. The will of God – Jesus wants all men to Come to Him – Mat. 23:37 God's Will, Love, & Desire Matthew 23:37 (NKJV) "O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, the one who kills the prophets and stones those who are sent to her! How often I wanted to gather your children together, as a hen gathers her chicks under her wings, but you were not willing! Jesus "Wants" All To Come To Him! BUT - We Must Be Willing!

  9. God Is Not Partial – Whoever Fears Him Acts 10:34,35 God's Will, Love, & Desire Acts 10:34-35 (NKJV) Then Peter opened his mouth and said: "In truth I perceive that God shows no partiality. [35] But in every nation whoever fears Him and works righteousness is accepted by Him. God Is NOT Partial! Man MUST respond to God’s love & grace!

  10. God Is Not Partial– Commands All Men To Repent – Acts 17:30 God's Will, Love, & Desire Acts 17:30 (NKJV) Truly, these times of ignorance God overlooked, but now commands all men everywhere to repent, God Is NOT Partial! Man MUST respond to God’s love & grace!

  11. God Is Not Partial – Desires All To Come To A Knowledge of Faith – 1 Tim. 2:4-6 God's Will, Love, & Desire 1 Tim. 2:4-6 (NKJV) who desiresall men to be saved and to come to the knowledge of the truth. [5] For there is one God and one Mediator between God and men, the Man Christ Jesus, [6] who gave Himself a ransom for all, to be testified in due time, God Is NOT Partial! Man MUST respond to God’s love & grace!

  12. The will of God – For All Men to Repent – 1John 2:1,2 God's Will, Love, & Desire 1 John 2:1-2 (NKJV) . . . [2] And He Himself is the propitiation for our sins, and not for ours only but also for the whole world. For whom did Jesus die? Those who were currently Christians as well as everyone else!

  13. Salvation By Grace Through Faith – Ephesians 2:8-10 Text Salvation By Grace Through Faith Ephesians 2:8-10 (NKJV) For by grace you have been saved through faith, and that not of yourselves; it is the gift of God, [9] not of works, lest anyone should boast. [10] For we are His workmanship, created in Christ Jesus for good works, which God prepared beforehand that we should walk in them.

  14. Salvation By Grace Through Faith – What is The Issue – Conditional? Salvation By Grace Through Faith Salvation by Grace not at Issue: (Ep 2:5, 8) “By grace have ye been saved” (Rom 3:24) “Being justified freely by his grace” • The Issue Is: • Are there any conditions that the alien sinner must meet in order to be saved by God’s grace? • (Either Unconditional or Conditional!)

  15. Works Used in Different Ways The Word "Works" Of Merit Ephesians 2:8; Titus 3:5 Where Do Repentance, Confession & Baptism Belong? A System of Sinless Perfection Romans 3:27; 4:2-8; 11:6 WORKS Of Faith 1 Thes 1:3; James 2:14-26 (Defines the kind of faith that saves)

  16. Salvation By Grace Through Faith – What is The Gift? Salvation By Grace Through Faith Through Faith What is the gift, what is “IT”- (“It is the gift . . . not “they are”) And that (kai touto). Neuter, not feminine tauteô, and so refers not to pistis (feminine) or to charis (feminine also), but to the act of being saved by grace conditioned on faith on our part.(A.T. Robertson, Word Pictures in the New Testament, p. 525). Grace – Faith, Salvation that comes by grace through faith?

  17. Salvation By Grace Through Faith - Joshua 6:2, 14 - Grace Salvation By Grace Through Faith Joshua 6:2 (NKJV) And the Lord said to Joshua: "See! I have given Jericho into your hand, its king, and the mighty men of valor. . . . [14] And the second day they marched around the city once and returned to the camp. So they did six days. GRACE

  18. Salvation By Grace Through Faith - Joshua 15,16 - Grace Salvation By Grace Through Faith Joshua 6:15-16 (NKJV) But it came to pass on the seventh day that they rose early, about the dawning of the day, and marched around the city seven times in the same manner. On that day only they marched around the city seven times. [16] And the seventh time it happened, when the priests blew the trumpets, that Joshua said to the people: "Shout, for the Lord has given you the city! GRACE

  19. Salvation By Grace Through Faith - Joshua 6:20 – Grace – Does Obedience Nullify Grace? Salvation By Grace Through Faith Joshua 6:20 (NKJV) So the people shouted when the priests blew the trumpets. And it happened when the people heard the sound of the trumpet, and the people shouted with a great shout, that the wall fell down flat. Then the people went up into the city, every man straight before him, and they took the city. Did their obedience nullify God’s GRACE? FAITH Hebrews 11:30 Gal 2:20,21; 3:1

  20. The Walls of Jericho Fell By? "Salvation By Grace Through Faith" The Walls of Jericho Fell By? A) Grace Only? ? ______ B) Faith Only? C) Works Only? D ______ D) By Grace Through a Faith that obeyed?

  21. Romans 1:5 - obedience to the faith (beginning) Two Systems Contrasted The Book of Romans Are we justified by the Law of Works (sinless perfection) or the Law of Faith (the gospel which provides forgiveness)? (3:27) Romans 1:5 (NKJV) Through Him we have received grace and apostleship for obedience to the faith among all nations for His name,

  22. Romans 6:16-18 – obedience unto righteousness (Middle) Two Systems Contrasted The Book of Romans Romans 6:16-18 (KJV) Know ye not, that to whom ye yield yourselves servants to obey, his servants ye are to whom ye obey; whether of sin unto death, or of obedience unto righteousness? [17] But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, but ye have obeyed from the heart that form of doctrine which was delivered you. [18] Being then made free from sin, ye became the servants of righteousness.

  23. Romans 16:26 - for obedience to the faith- (End) Two Systems Contrasted The Book of Romans Are we justified by the Law of Works (sinless perfection) or the Law of Faith (the gospel which provides forgiveness)? (3:27) Romans 16:26 (NKJV) but now has been made manifest, and by the prophetic Scriptures has been made known to all nations, according to the commandment of the everlasting God, for obedience to the faith--

  24. Romans 4 –& Two systems – Rom 3:27 Two Systems Contrasted The Book of Romans Are we justified by the Law of Works (sinless perfection) or the Law of Faith (the gospel which provides forgiveness)? (3:27) Romans 3:27-28 (NKJV) Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? Of works?No, but by the law of faith. [28] Therefore we conclude that a man is justified by faithapart from the deeds of the law.

  25. Romans 4:2-3 Two Systems Contrasted In Romans 4 Are we justified by the Law of Works (sinless perfection) or the Law of Faith (the gospel which provides forgiveness)? (3:27) Romans 4:2-3 (NKJV) For if Abraham was justified by works, he has something to boast about, but not before God. [3] For what does the Scripture say? "Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness."

  26. Romans 4:4,5 Two Systems Contrasted In Romans 4 Are we justified by the Law of Works (sinless perfection) or the Law of Faith (the gospel which provides forgiveness)? (3:27) Romans 4:4-5 (NKJV) Now to him who works, the wages are not counted as grace but as debt. [5] But to him who does not work but believes on Him who justifies the ungodly, his faith is accounted for righteousness,

  27. Romans 4:6-8 Two Systems Contrasted In Romans 4 Are we justified by the Law of Works (sinless perfection) or the Law of Faith (the gospel which provides forgiveness)? (3:27) Romans 4:6-8 (NKJV) just as David also describes the blessedness of the man to whom God imputes righteousness apart from works: [7]"Blessed are those whose lawless deeds are forgiven, And whose sins are covered; [8] Blessed is the man to whom the Lord shall not impute sin."

  28. Romans 4 – Works Not Equal To Obedient Faith Two Systems Contrasted In Romans 4 Works Obedience [3] . . . Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness.” [dikaiosune], [5] . . . his faith is accounted for righteousness, [dikaiosune], [6] . . God imputes righteousness [dikaiosune], apart from works. Romans 6:16-18 . . . obedience leading to righteousness? [dikaiosune], Are we justified by the Law of Works (sinless perfection) or the Law of Faith (the gospel which provides forgiveness)? (3:27) =

  29. Kind of Faith that saves – James 2 Are We Saved By Faith Only? The Kind of Faith That Saves James 2:14 (NKJV) What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? Faith That Doesn’t save Inactive Unfruitful Disobedient Incomplete Dead Faith That Does save Active Fruitful Obedient Complete Alive

  30. Exegesis of James 2:20-22 Are We Saved By Faith Only? The Kind of Faith That Saves James 2:20-26 (NKJV) But do you want to know, O foolish man, that faith without works is dead? [21] Was not Abraham our father justified by works when he offered Isaac his son on the altar? [22] Do you see that faith was working together with his works, and by works faith was made perfect? James 2:14 (NKJV) What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him?

  31. Exegesis of James 2:23-24? Are We Saved By Faith Only? The Kind of Faith That Saves James 2:20-26 (NKJV) [23] And the Scripture was fulfilled which says, "Abraham believed God, and it was accounted to him for righteousness." And he was called the friend of God. [24] You see then that a man is justified by works, and not by faith only. James 2:14 (NKJV) What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him? Genesis 22:5,12,16,18,19 not by faith only

  32. Exegesis of James 2:25,26? Are We Saved By Faith Only? The Kind of Faith That Saves James 2:20-26 (NKJV) [25] Likewise, was not Rahab the harlot also justified by works when she received the messengers and sent them out another way? [26] For as the body without the spirit is dead, so faith without works is dead also. James 2:14 (NKJV) What does it profit, my brethren, if someone says he has faith but does not have works? Can faith save him?

  33. Washing of Regeneration - Titus 3:4-5 Apostolic Teaching On Water Baptism • Divine initiative • Kindness • Love • Mercy • Saved when? Titus 3:4-5 (YLT) and when the kindness and the love to men of God our Saviour did appear [5] (not by works that [are] in righteousness that we did but according to His kindness,) He did save us, through a bathing of regeneration, and a renewing of the Holy Spirit, Not due to works of righteousness • Washing of regeneration (i.e. baptism) • Renewing of the Holy Spirit • Acts 2:38; John 3:5; Eph. 5:26 THROUGH

  34. Mr. Cook Vs. The Holy Spirit 1 Peter 3:21 The Scriptures Really Teach: 1 Peter 3:21 (NASB) And corresponding to that, baptism now saves you-- not the removal of dirt from the flesh, but an appeal to God for a good conscience-- through the resurrection of Jesus Christ, VS. The proposition Resolved: The scriptures teach that the alien sinner is forgiven of his past sins by faith only, before and without water baptism

  35. God's Purpose and Water Baptism... Luke 7:30 God's Purpose and Water Baptism... God's Purpose and Water Baptism... Luke 7:30 (NASB) But the Pharisees and the lawyers rejected God's purpose for themselves, not having been baptized by John.

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