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“College is a match to be made, not a prize to be won. If you make a good match, isn’t that the best prize?”. ~Frank Sachs~ Director of College Counseling at The Blake School (MN) 2005 NACAC President. March 14, 2012. It Takes a Village. Guidance Counselors – write your SSR recommendation

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“College is a match to be made, not a prize to be won.If you make a good match, isn’t that the best prize?”

~Frank Sachs~Director of College Counseling at

The Blake School (MN)

2005 NACAC President

March 14, 2012

It Takes a Village

  • Guidance Counselors – write your SSR recommendation

  • College Counselors-meet with you and offer college advice

  • Teachers - write recommendations

  • College Reps- personal resource for individual colleges

  • Parents– too many roles to list

  • Siblings and Friends - can be helpful

  • Parent Coordinator – liaison to parents

  • YOU - make final choices

The College Office Staff

  • Ms. Cleary - College Counselor

    Homerooms A - H

  • Ms. Pedrick - College Counselor

    Homerooms I - Q

  • Ms. Ferrer - College Counselor

    Homerooms R - Z


  • Ms. DiPaola – Transcripts for scholarships and summer programs

  • Ms. Demasi – SAT and ACT Fee Waivers for eligible students

SSR Background Questionnaire and College Advisement Worksheet MUST be entered online

  • Log in to your Student Tools account from the Stuy home page

  • Go to Onward to College and click on Enter the Data in your SSR Background Questionnaire as well as Enter Info in Your College Advisement Worksheet

    **The SSR Background Questionnaire and the College Advisement Worksheet should be completed as soon as possible

Complete Your College Advisement Worksheet

Part I – Test Results

Part I, cont’d

Part II - Awards

Part III – College Preferences

Part III, cont’d

Part IV – College Selections

Part IV, cont’d

Part IV, cont’d

What are these very selective schools looking for – the “holistic” approach

  • Transcripts,

    • both grades and rigor of curriculum

  • talent/creativity/leadership

  • Research, sponsored or individual

  • essays/very specific essays related to that particular college

    • U Chicago, Columbia, Dartmouth (peer)

  • outside of the classroom experiences/activities

  • Interview

  • “demonstrating interest” such as:

    - registering on college’s website as a prospective student

    - joining mailing list

    - meeting college admissions reps here at Stuy in the Fall

    - attending colleges’ information sessions held in NYC. . .

intellectual passion enriching life experiences


high test scores sustained commitment to activities

well-written essays talent

curiosity service creativity

interesting viewpoints academic success

demonstrated interest aspirations

quality of coursework leadershiplife goals

Our application review is holistic.

What are you looking for in a college?

  • which academic subjects interest you the most? does the college offer this area of study?

  • large class size or small class size? lecture vs. classroom discussion?

    • Undergraduate Enrollment: approximately 2000 students (Liberal Arts and Sciences College), 5000 to 10,000 students (Private University), 20,000 students or more (Public University)

  • location: city, a town close to a city, a rural setting, distance from home?

  • What is the general student climate like on campus

    • Princeton Review gives lists:

      • Students Study The Most

      • Class Discussions encouraged/rare

      • Most Happy Students / Least Happy Students

      • Most Liberal Students / Most Conservative Students

      • Most publically active

      • Great College Town / College Town Not So Great

      • Everyone Plays Intramural Sports / No One Plays

      • Best College Theater


    Find schools that are a good match for YOU

Keep in mind…

there is not one school out there that is your PERFECT match…

…you could be happy/fulfilled/challenged at a number of different colleges.

Time Management

  • Junior Year Homework: spend ½ hour, maybe 1 hour, per week researching colleges – a small time commitment that will affect 4 years of your life.

  • Summer Homework: spend 1 – 2 hours per week researching colleges – a small time commitment that will affect 4 years of your life.

Don’t put it off!

The “Ivy League” – what is it?

  • Brown, Columbia, Cornell, Dartmouth, Harvard, U. of Pennsylvania, Princeton, Yale

  • These are 8 great schools, but there are DOZENS and DOZENS of schools that are equally fantastic – seek out/research these very selective Universities and “Liberal Arts” and Sciences schools

  • Mark Bittman ‘67…Clark University (Worcester, MA)

    • Author of “How to Cook Everything”, NY Times contributor

  • Stanley Greenberg ‘73…Stony Brook

    • Landscape photographer who has shown at every major U.S. museum

  • Lucy Liu‘86…University of Michigan

    • Star of television, movie, and Broadway

  • Bram Cohen ‘93…SUNY Buffalo

    • Created BitTorrent (file sharing), named one of TIME magazine’s 100 Most Influential People of 2005

APRIL 26th

  • Make sure to visit a variety of colleges during our College Night. Ask Admissions Representatives - What are the advantages of attending:

    • a smaller Liberal Arts and Sciences college

    • a private university

    • a large public state university

Resources (Where do I start?):

  • See the college counselors this term. We have a busy, intense schedule in the fall term of your senior year.

  • Review your transcript, then review the statistics on Stuy tools

    • Stuyvesant College Handbook (see Lists of Colleges – Selectivity)

  • Visit colleges, if possible

    • Review college websites for dates, register for tours/info sessions

    • Make the most of April break and days we have off in May and June

  • College guides – Fiske and Princeton Review are very reliable

    • Check “Overlaps” lists

  • Check out College Board’s “College Matchmaker”

    and Princeton Review’s “Counselor-O-Matic”

  • College’s websites

    • Look for videos, photos, virtual tours

What are my chances of Admission?

  • The College Office suggests that students develop a list of approximately 10 colleges (excluding SUNY’s, CUNY’s, out of state public colleges, and international colleges)

  • A mixture of:

    • “Reach” (10% acceptance rate or less),

    • “Possible” (30% acceptance rate or less) ,

    • “Target” (50% - 70% acceptance rate or less) ,

    • “Safety” (90% acceptance rate), and

    • “Financial Safety” schools

  • College Handbook: see the sections called “Ranking the Selectivity of Colleges” and “What Colleges Look for in Applicants”

  • Admissions Statistics in your Stuy Student Tools account

Should I apply ED (Early Decision)?

  • ED: In many cases, applying Early Decision can increase a student’s chance of admission – check stats

  • Keep in mind pros and cons of ED:

    • making commitment to one college if accepted and offered financial aid that “makes attendance possible”

    • not able to compare financial aid packages

    • won’t know with certainty what financial aid package will be (although approximate idea can be determined)

Early Deadlines available on Common App’s website


Paying for College

  • Do not let the cost of a college prevent you from applying – FINANCIAL AID is usually based on the family’s ability to pay

  • Financial Safety schools (our New York Publics)

    • SUNY – numerous colleges in the SUNY system, many have Honors Programs

    • CUNY Macaulay Honors College (7 CUNY colleges participate) and General CUNY system

    • Other colleges less expensive than typical Private Colleges – Canadian schools, out-of-state publics, “Best Buy” colleges . . .

  • Discuss with your family and review individual colleges’ Financial Aid websites/policies:

    • how much financial aid can we expect to receive from a particular college (amount varies from college to college) [check cost calculators]

    • what can our family afford to pay each year?

Some colleges offer Academic Merit Scholarships


  • Page 47 of the Stuy College Handbook lists helpful scholarship websites

  • Check the College Office Bulletin for monthly updates on additional scholarship opportunities

Accept Responsibility and Have Some Fun!

~~Things to Do List~~

  • VISIT COLLEGES (Have fun )

  • Complete SSR Background and College Advise forms found in your Student Tools Account

  • Organize college materials

  • Attend Stuy college fair APRIL 26

  • Take SAT I Reasoning Test, SAT II Subject Tests, and/or ACT Plus Writing Test by June 2012

  • By May 2012, request college recommendation letters from 2 teachers in different subject areas

  • Refer to your College Handbook

Any questions????

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