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What does completion have to do with it?

Kathy Booth, WestEd KC Greaney, Santa Rosa Junior College Nick Kremer, Santiago Canyon College. What does completion have to do with it?. The anecdote.

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What does completion have to do with it?

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  1. Kathy Booth, WestEd KC Greaney, Santa Rosa Junior College Nick Kremer, Santiago Canyon College What does completion have to do with it?

  2. The anecdote • “I have lots of students who take a couple of courses and then they go and get a job before they complete the program. How can they be failures?” • “Sure students complete. They just complete someone else’s credential.”

  3. The facts California Community College Scorecard (June 2013) Career Technical Education Completion

  4. Session outcomes • Understand current research efforts to document outcomes for students who don’t complete a community college credential or transfer • Evaluate implications of research for community college policy and practice

  5. Where did your research start?

  6. How did you gather this information?

  7. What types of students were included in the research?

  8. What timeframe does your research cover?

  9. What were the skills-builders like?

  10. What did they study?

  11. Did they make more money?

  12. Did they get other benefits?

  13. Has anyone else documented this? • The California Community College Chancellor’s Office examined outcomes for students reporting “advance in current job/career” as their college application goal: • 67,800 students or 4% of fall 2010 • Found similar student demographics to the CTE Employment Outcomes Survey • 33% had previously attended a four-year institution • 26% had earned some type of award in the California community college system • median age was 38

  14. Has anyone else documented this? • The Chancellor’s Office study found similar course topics as Bahr’s research: • 62% took CTE courses • Common programs included Administration of Justice, Policy Academy, Fire Technology, Fire Academy, Mathematics, Office Technology, Petroleum Technology, and Child Development • And significant one-year wage gains in particular fields • Dental Laboratory Technician - $44,887 • Plastics and Composites - $35,038 • Respiratory Care/Therapy - $27,462

  15. Key messages • Skills-builder students are not just anecdotes. • These students appear to upgrading work-related competencies and securing significant wage gains. • Common success metrics count these students as failures. • Few colleges have access to employment, wage, and external certification data needed to demonstrate their successes.

  16. Implications 1) Metrics are needed to capture community college workforce development goals. Some measures that may prove helpful include: • Course success • Employment • Job retention • Wage gain • Industry certifications and state licenses

  17. Implications 2) Looking at employment outcomes can help colleges determine whether they are offering students a fair return on investment and a chance at a family-sustaining wage.

  18. Implications 3) Colleges could leverage information on skills-builder students to inform program improvement efforts. What are some of the ways that you think this information would be useful at your own institution?

  19. Find out more CTE Employment Outcomes Survey: www.rpgroup.org/projects/CTE-Employment-Outcomes-Survey Peter Bahr’s Research on Skills-builders, plus practitioner-friends guides to support conversations on the research: www.wested.org/project/quantifying-non-completion-pathways-to-success Contact us! • Kathy Booth: kbooth@wested.org • KC Greaney: kgreaney@santarosa.edu • Nick Kremer: nkremer@cox.net

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