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Feedback from assessments of ExCBs and ExTLs – Areas where difficulties are experienced

This presentation discusses common problems experienced by ExCBs and ExTLs in applying IECEx procedures and provides strategies to overcome or avoid them. It covers various issues related to applying IECEx procedures, technical challenges, and feedback from other assessors.

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Feedback from assessments of ExCBs and ExTLs – Areas where difficulties are experienced

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  1. Feedback from assessments of ExCBs and ExTLs – Areas where difficulties are experienced Jim Munro Chairman IECEx Panel of Assessors

  2. Scope of presentation • This training session will: • Look at some common problems and how to overcome or avoid them • Discuss IECEx and other documents ExCBs and ExTLs need to consider • Discuss some of the approaches that can be used to help bodies be accepted • Explore experiences that other assessors have had

  3. Types of issues/problems • Applying IECEx Procedures • System issues related to ISO/IEC Guide 65 and 17025 • Technical issues • Other Issues

  4. Applying IECEx Procedures - ExCB • IECEx 02 IECEx Scheme rules of procedure • OD/003 IECEx Assessment procedures • OD/005 Quality System requirements for manufacturers • OD/009 Issuing of CoCs, ExTRs and QARs • ExMC/161/CD and OD025 Management of assessment and surveillance programs for manufacturers • OD/017 Drawing and documentation guidance • Other ODs

  5. Applying IECEx Procedures –ExTL • IECEx 02 IECEx Scheme rules of procedure • OD/003 IECEx Assessment procedures • IECEx Operational Document OD/009 Issuing of CoCs, ExTRs and QARs • Other ODs • IECEx Technical Guidance Documents (TGDs) • ExTAG Decision Sheets

  6. Applying IECEx Procedures - • Use of data, subcontracting and off site testing • For third party laboratories - hierarchy: • IECEx • IECEE • Local accreditation • No accreditation • Assessment and control

  7. Applying IECEx Procedures - • Appeals – to IECEx • Manufacturing surveillance • Adjustment where local system is different (not a Type 5 Scheme) • Ensuring QARs are issued • ExTRs • Blanks in completed ExTRs • Lack of supporting data • Referencing to ATEX component certificates – see Decision Sheets 2004/006 and 2006/002

  8. Applying IECEx Procedures - • Clear delineation of responsibilities of people within ExCB and ExTL, including: • Who makes certification decision • Who signs what • Deputies where necessary

  9. Guide 65 and 17025 • Using uncontrolled pieces of paper: • For recording results • For useful data such as conversion lookup tables • Capturing and retaining original data • Internal audits - Not always done to schedule

  10. Guide 65 and 17025 • Calibration • Instruments not in calibration • Extending calibration periods • Inconsistencies in quality systems • Defining and recording competencies • Correction of errors when writing down readings

  11. Technical Issues • Technical issues related to: • Equipment • Procedures • Competency

  12. Technical Issues –Intrinsic Safety • Spark test apparatus • Inductors and capacitors • Periodic full calibration • Temperature classification • Measurement • Assessment • Small component ignition

  13. Technical Issues – Flameproof • General • Version control of software where computers used • Condition and handling of measuring devices such as vernier callipers • Lack of calibrated thread gauges

  14. Technical Issues – Flameproof • Gas measurement • Calibration of oxygen analysers • Traceability of certificates for mixed gases • Flameproof pressure determination systems • Calibration approaches - static and dynamic • Noise or other interference on the system

  15. Technical Issues – Temperature Measurement • Location of tests – drafts etc • Lack of attention to measurement techniques • Making of thermocouples • Thermocouple and system calibration • Thermocouple attachment • Measurement of ambient temperature • Hot spot location

  16. Technical Issues –IP Testing • Dust testing – keeping dust in circulation • Humidity - heating • Vibrators – rappers – hoses • Slope of hoppers • Viewing windows • Chamber leaks • Water testing – • Temperature differential - control temperature or use of pressure balance • Nozzle calibration

  17. Feedback from other Assessors • Other experiences?

  18. Conclusion • Despite the seeming long list of issues here – everyone seems to get there in the end!

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