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In the presence of mystery modern religion

In the Presence of Mystery: Modern Religion

Chapter 14

_____________________________________________________

Structure of the chapter:

The Modern Challenges to Religion

Non-Modern Religious Beliefs Today

MODERN RELIGION

Modern Religion and Other Stages


In the presence of mystery modern religion

In the Presence of Mystery: Modern Religion

Chapter 14

_____________________________________________________

  • Modern Challenges to Religion

  • scientific worldviews

  • secularity

  • autonomous selfhood

  • the tentativeness of

  • knowledge.


In the presence of mystery modern religion

In the Presence of Mystery: Modern Religion

Chapter 14

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  • The Challenge of

  • Scientific Worldviews

  • -- naturalism (no miracles)?

  • -- aimless universe?

  • -- darwinism and its challenges (ch. 12)


In the presence of mystery modern religion

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  • The Challenge of

  • Secularity

  • give up other-worldliness

  • to improve this world:

  • seek to decrease

  • war, poverty, disease, child

  • abuse, abuse of women,

  • slavery, torture, oppression of

  • the weak, injustice . . . .

Migrant Mother, photo by Dorothea Lange, mid ’30s


In the presence of mystery modern religion

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  • The Challenge of

  • Autonomous selfhood

OR: obey God,

follow religious

tradition; do what

the Church says.


In the presence of mystery modern religion

In the Presence of Mystery: Modern Religion

Chapter 14

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  • The Challenge of

  • The tentativeness of knowledge

OR:


In the presence of mystery modern religion

In the Presence of Mystery: Modern Religion

Chapter 14

_____________________________________________________

Structure of the chapter:

The Modern Challenges to Religion

Non-Modern Religious Beliefs Today

MODERN RELIGION

Modern Religion and Other Stages


In the presence of mystery modern religion

In the Presence of Mystery: Modern Religion

Chapter 14

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Non-Modern Religious Beliefs Today

Amish in the City –

And numerous traditional

Religious groups today.

David Koresh,

Branch Davidians, Waco

Rev. Pat Robertson

Famous fundamentalist


In the presence of mystery modern religion

In the Presence of Mystery: Modern Religion

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Non-Modern Religious Beliefs Today

For the essay exam, be able to indicate how these three groups

– fundamentalists, sects like the Amish, and a “cult” like Brand Davidians –

React to the four challenges of modernity.


In the presence of mystery modern religion

In the Presence of Mystery: Modern Religion

Chapter 14

_____________________________________________________

Structure of the chapter:

The Modern Challenges to Religion

Non-Modern Religious Beliefs Today

MODERN RELIGION

Modern Religion and Other Stages


In the presence of mystery modern religion

In the Presence of Mystery: Modern Religion

Chapter 14

_____________________________________________________

MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews


In the presence of mystery modern religion

In the Presence of Mystery: Modern Religion

Chapter 14

_____________________________________________________

  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science

  • Unite religion with science

  • Wait for further developments.


In the presence of mystery modern religion

In the Presence of Mystery: Modern Religion

Chapter 14

_____________________________________________________

  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.


In the presence of mystery modern religion

In the Presence of Mystery: Modern Religion

Chapter 14

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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • We will review 4 theologians and a skeptic,

  • just to see a range of responses to science.


In the presence of mystery modern religion

In the Presence of Mystery: Modern Religion

Chapter 14

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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • a. Schleiermacher’s “liberal theology”

Friedrich Schleiermacher

1768-1834


In the presence of mystery modern religion

In the Presence of Mystery: Modern Religion

Chapter 14

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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • a. Schleiermacher’s “liberal theology”

  • Cultural context:

  • Deism had eliminated miracles.

  • biblical miracles, the incarnation

  • and resurrection of Jesus !?


In the presence of mystery modern religion

In the Presence of Mystery: Modern Religion

Chapter 14

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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • a. Schleiermacher’s “liberal theology”

  • -- true religion = experience of the

  • divine Whole on which the entire

  • universe depends.

  • This experience is “God-consciousness.”


In the presence of mystery modern religion

In the Presence of Mystery: Modern Religion

Chapter 14

_____________________________________________________

  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • a. Schleiermacher’s “liberal theology”

  • -- true religion = experience of the

  • divine Whole on which the entire

  • universe depends.

  • Religion does not depend on external

  • evidence like science does.

  • It is entirely separate from science.


In the presence of mystery modern religion

In the Presence of Mystery: Modern Religion

Chapter 14

_____________________________________________________

  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • a. Schleiermacher’s “liberal theology”

  • -- true religion = experience of the

  • divine Whole on which the entire

  • universe depends.

  • True religion does not depend on

  • belief in miracles.

  • [a concession to deism??]


In the presence of mystery modern religion

In the Presence of Mystery: Modern Religion

Chapter 14

_____________________________________________________

  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • a. Schleiermacher’s “liberal theology”

  • -- true religion = experience of the

  • divine Whole on which the entire

  • universe depends.

  • -- all doctrines are just symbolic attempts

  • to express the basic religious experience.


In the presence of mystery modern religion

In the Presence of Mystery: Modern Religion

Chapter 14

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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • a. Schleiermacher’s “liberal theology”

  • -- all doctrines are just symbolic

  • expressions of the basic

  • religious experience.

  • -- e.g. idea that Jesus is divine

  • as well as human ?


In the presence of mystery modern religion

In the Presence of Mystery: Modern Religion

Chapter 14

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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • a. Schleiermacher’s “liberal theology”

  • -- e.g. idea that Jesus is divine

  • as well as human ?

  • Just a symbol of this: Jesus had

  • the greatest God-consciousness


In the presence of mystery modern religion

In the Presence of Mystery: Modern Religion

Chapter 14

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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • a. Schleiermacher’s “liberal theology”

  • -- e.g. belief in a life after death?


In the presence of mystery modern religion

In the Presence of Mystery: Modern Religion

Chapter 14

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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • a. Schleiermacher’s “liberal theology”

  • -- e.g. belief in a life after death?

  • This is just a symbolic way of

  • expressing trust that at death a

  • person enters into final unity with

  • the Whole.


In the presence of mystery modern religion

In the Presence of Mystery: Modern Religion

Chapter 14

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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • a. Schleiermacher’s “liberal theology”

  • -- result: no LITERAL

  • incarnation of God in Jesus,

  • nor life after death.

  • “Fundamentalism” defined itself

  • as a rejection of “liberal theology”

  • in the early 1900s. (See ch. 12)


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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • a. Schleiermacher’s “liberal theology”

  • Rudolph Otto (the “numinous” guy)

God = mystery, fascinating & terrifying.

This God can be found through religious

experience or feeling,

as Schleiermacher said.

1869-1937


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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • a. Schleiermacher’s “liberal theology”

  • In between Schl and Otto: Feuerbach

  • Rudolph Otto (the “numinous” guy)

  • More people accept Otto than Feuerbach

1869-1937


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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • b.Ludwig Feuerbach

  • “inner experience can deceive us”

1804-1872


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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • b.Ludwig Feuerbach

  • “inner experience can deceive us”

  • We have a capacity for the infinite.

  • The infinite scares us

  • So we “project” a comforting image

  • into the sky: God, made in our own image.

1804-1872


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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • b.Ludwig Feuerbach

  • We attribute to this “God”

  • our own powers of thought and

  • free choice, made perfect.

  • Then we submit to this fiction we

  • have created.

1804-1872


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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • b.Ludwig Feuerbach

  • He did not prove God does not exist.

  • But he planted the suspicion.

  • Both Marx and Freud used this theory.

  • These 3 = “masters of suspicion.”

1804-1872


In the presence of mystery modern religion

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Chapter 14

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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • a. Schleiermacher’s “liberal theology”

  • In between Schl and Otto: Feuerbach

  • Rudolph Otto (the “numinous” guy)

  • More people accept Otto than Feuerbach.

  • Nonetheless, Feuerbach made people nervous.

1869-1937


In the presence of mystery modern religion

In the Presence of Mystery: Modern Religion

Chapter 14

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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • a. Schleiermacher’s “liberal theology”

  • b. Feuerbach’s suspicion

  • c. Karl Barth’s “neo-orthodoxy”

1886-1968


In the presence of mystery modern religion

In the Presence of Mystery: Modern Religion

Chapter 14

_____________________________________________________

  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • a. Schleiermacher’s “liberal theology”

  • b. Feuerbach’s suspicion

  • c. Karl Barth’s “neo-orthodoxy”

1886-1968


In the presence of mystery modern religion

In the Presence of Mystery: Modern Religion

Chapter 14

_____________________________________________________

  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • a. Schleiermacher’s “liberal theology”

  • b. Feuerbach’s suspicion

  • c. Karl Barth’s “neo-orthodoxy”

  • no miracles

  • but faith is God’s gift

  • not something to be proven

  • or disproven by science.


In the presence of mystery modern religion

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Chapter 14

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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • a. Schleiermacher’s “liberal theology”

  • b. Feuerbach’s suspicion

  • c. Karl Barth’s “neo-orthodoxy”

  • d. Rudolph Bultmann’s

  • “Christian existentialism”

1884-1976


In the presence of mystery modern religion

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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • d. Rudolph Bultmann’s

  • “Christian existentialism”

  • We do “ex-ist” in the universe.


In the presence of mystery modern religion

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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • d. Rudolph Bultmann’s

  • “Christian existentialism”

  • We do “ex-ist” in the universe.

  • Shall we then despair?


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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • d. Rudolph Bultmann’s

  • “Christian existentialism”

  • We do “ex-ist” in the universe.

  • Shall we then despair?

  • No: say “nevertheless”

  • I will have courage,

  • inspired by Christ.

Salvador Dali, 1954.


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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • d. Rudolph Bultmann’s

  • “Christian existentialism”

  • This echoed the position of

  • Søren Kierkegaard (1813-1855)

  • Fear and Trembling: Abraham.


In the presence of mystery modern religion

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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • d. Rudolph Bultmann’s

  • “Christian existentialism”

  • This echoed the position of

  • Søren Kierkegaard (1813-1855)

  • Fear and Trembling: Abraham.


In the presence of mystery modern religion

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Chapter 14

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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • d. Rudolph Bultmann’s

  • “Christian existentialism”

  • This echoed the position of

  • Søren Kierkegaard (1813-1855)

  • Fear and Trembling: Abraham.


In the presence of mystery modern religion

In the Presence of Mystery: Modern Religion

Chapter 14

_____________________________________________________

  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • a. Schleiermacher’s “liberal theology”

  • b. Feuerbach’s suspicion

  • c. Karl Barth’s “neo-orthodoxy”

  • d. Rudolph Bultmann’s

  • “Christian existentialism”

  • e. Mircea Eliade’s phenomenology of religion


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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • e. Mircea Eliade’s phenomenology of religion

  • Experience of the sacred is

  • “sui generis” -- unique.

  • The sacred cannot be grasped

  • by non-sacred methods.

  • (Primitive people are closer

  • to the sacred than moderns.)

  • [end of section on segregate]


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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • Integrate religion with science.


In the presence of mystery modern religion

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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • Integrate religion with science.

  • [First -- two people to ignore for the exam:]

G. W. F. Hegel (1770-1831)

Alfred North Whitehead (1861-1947


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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • Integrate religion with science.

  • A person to recall: agnostic Julian Huxley


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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • Integrate religion with science.

  • A person to recall: agnostic Julian Huxley

  • and his friend Pere Pierre Teilhard de Chardin, S.J.


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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • Integrate religion with science.

  • Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

  • proposed a Christian version

  • of Huxley’s theory

1881- 1955


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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • Integrate religion with science.

  • Pierre Teilhard de Chardin


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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • Integrate religion with science.

  • Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

  • differentiation

  • complexification

  • conscientization:

  • DESIGN


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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • Integrate religion with science.

  • Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

  • differentiation

  • complexification

  • conscientization

  • OMEGA POINT--

  • union of all with the divine


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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • Integrate religion with science.

  • Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

  • OMEGA POINT--

  • union with the divine

  • History of the universe

  • driving towards unity: LOVE


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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • Integrate religion with science.

  • Pierre Teilhard de Chardin

  • (He was forbidden to publish

  • his ideas. When he died in

  • 1955 they were still treated as

  • dangerous -- But eventually:


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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • Integrate religion with science.

  • Mysticized Science:

  • mingle knowledge of the universe with

  • experiencing it as sacred

  • [ignore these names also: Bohm, Davies.]


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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • Integrate religion with science.

  • Two more modern “arguments from design”:


In the presence of mystery modern religion

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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • Integrate religion with science.

  • Two more modern “arguments from design”:

  • a. Anthropic Principle (“fine tuning”)

  • The apparent randomness of the universe

  • is not so random after all.


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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • Integrate religion with science.

  • a. Anthropic Principle

  • Also called the

  • Goldilocks argument –

  • everything is “just right.”


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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • Integrate religion with science.

  • Two more modern “arguments from design”:

  • a. Anthropic Principle (“fine tuning”)

  • The whole structure and history of the

  • universe looks as though it were

  • designed to allow life to appear -- and us.


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MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

a. Anthropic Principle


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MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

a. Anthropic Principle


In the presence of mystery modern religion

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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • Integrate religion with science.

  • Two arguments from design

  • a. Anthropic Principle

  • Each basic force is finely tuned

  • to cumulatively produce a universe

  • with galaxies of stars heavy elements,

  • making planets like ours possible


In the presence of mystery modern religion

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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • Integrate religion with science.

  • Two arguments from design

  • a. Anthropic Principle

  • Each basic force is finely tuned

  • to cumulatively produce a universe

  • with galaxies of stars heavy elements,

  • making planets like ours possible -- and US.


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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • Integrate religion with science.

  • Two arguments from design

  • a. Anthropic Principle

  • This is not Paley’s argument that LIFE is too

  • complex to be the result of accident.

  • It argues that life could arise and develop by

  • natural selection only because the whole

  • universe was finely tuned from the start.


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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • Integrate religion with science.

  • Two more modern “arguments from design”:

  • a. Anthropic Principle (“fine tuning”)

  • b. “Intelligent Design”

  • (all arguments from design can be named this --

  • BUT: )


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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • Integrate religion with science.

  • b. “Intelligent Design”

  • Wm Dembski’s design inference:


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MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

Three different approaches:

b. “Intelligent Design”

Wm Dembski’s design inference:

Find “highly specified complexity.”

Did it happen by accident? No.

Do the laws of nature produce it?

Did it have to have been designed then? Yes.

NATURALISM IS WRONG (?)


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MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

Three different approaches:

b. “Intelligent Design”

Wm Dembski’s design inference:

Find “highly specified complexity.”

Did it happen by accident? No.

Do the laws of nature produce it? No.

Did it have to have been designed then? Yes.

ALTERNATIVE: NATURAL SELECTION


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  • MODERN RELIGION and 1) scientific worldviews

  • Three different approaches:

  • Segregate religion from science.

  • Integrate religion with science.

  • Patient Moderation about Religion and Science

  • “Modern” forms of religion usually say:

  • Adapt when reasonable to do so--

  • e.g., Copernicus,

  • Darwin

End of part 1 of ch. 14


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MODERN RELIGION and 2) secularity

Modern religion values this world

The Human Home.

God-given,

to be made better

in answer to a divine call,

to love one another.


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MODERN RELIGION and 2) secularity

Modern religion values this world

E.g., Bishop Robinson’s 1960

Honest to God

promotes “worldly holiness” --

Find God in creation and others.

Practice religious humanism:

trust that God empowers us

to seek and achieve greater human well-being


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Modern religion values this world

E.g., Liberation Theologies --

Latin American, black, feminist


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Modern religion values this world

E.g., Liberation Theologies --

Latin American:

preferential option for

the poor and oppressed

Gustavo Gutierrez

1927 --


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E.g., Black Liberation Theology

James Cone,

"Black Theology and Black Power,” 1969

“The truth about injustice

always sounds outrageous”


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Modern religion values this world

E.g., Feminist Theology

Recovering the story of women,

giving them a history/reality,

and equal status in the human

family before God.

Phyllis Trible


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Modern religion values this world

E.g., “Deep Ecology”


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E.g., “Deep Ecology”


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  • MODERN RELIGION and 2) secularity

  • Modern religion values this world

  • E.g., “Deep Ecology”

  • Older view:

  • Bible gives humans dominion over earth.

  • The end of the world is not far off.


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MODERN RELIGION and 2) secularity

Modern religion values this world

E.g., “Deep Ecology”

Newer view:

Humans = stewards.

Care for God’s

great creation.


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MODERN RELIGION and 3) autonomous selfhood

A kind of humanism.

  • Humanism implies --

  • trust in human abilities

  • to serve human well-being


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  • Humanism implies

  • trust in human abilities

  • to serve human well-being

  • Contrast traditional Xtn view:

  • We are fallen sinners.

  • Pride is the worst of sins.

Dirk Bouts, d. 1475.

“The Fall of the Damned,”

ca. 1450.


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  • Humanism implies

  • trust in human abilities

  • to serve human well-being

  • Contrast traditional Xtn view

  • With humanism:

  • we are imperfect but capable of great good

  • With Xtn humanism, capable as God made us:

  • trust in personhood, as

  • image & likeness of God


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  • Humanism implied

  • trust in human abilities

  • to serve human well-being

  • Xtn humanism = “implicit faith”

  • that acting “autonomously”

  • is living by the value of personhood.


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  • Humanism implied

  • trust in human abilities

  • to serve human well-being

  • Xtn humanism = “implicit faith”

  • that acting “autonomously”

  • is living by the value of personhood.

  • Recall: autonomy = taking responsibility

  • through inner reflection and choice.

  • This = “authentic human existence.”


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  • Humanism implied

  • trust in human abilities

  • to serve human well-being

  • Xtn humanism = “implicit faith”

  • faith that Personhood

  • is the ultimate truth –

  • that “God” is the ultimate truth,

  • that our freedom is an ‘image’ of that God.


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MODERN RELIGION and 4) tentativeness of knl.


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Can Jews, Christians, Muslims, Hindus, etc.

treat their sacred texts and traditions as tentative?


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Can Jews, Christians, Muslims, Hindus, etc.

treat their sacred texts and traditions as tentative?

Modern religious thinkers say:

the Ultimate is infinitely

greater than our knowledge.

Even the truth of scripture and

tradition cannot contain the

full truth of God, Allah, etc.


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MODERN RELIGION and 4) tentativeness of knl.

Can Jews, Christians, Muslims, Hindus, etc.

treat their sacred texts and traditions as tentative?

Modern religious thinkers say:

We should not be surprised

that we are still on a journey

of discovery about the

Ultimate.


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Structure of the chapter:

The Modern Challenges to Religion

Non-Modern Religious Beliefs Today

MODERN RELIGION

Summed up in last paragraph on p. 308

Modern Religion and Other Stages


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MODERN RELIGION and other stages of religion

The stages tend to accumulate:

primitive + archaic + historic + modern


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MODERN RELIGION and other stages of religion

The stages tend to accumulate:

primitive + archaic + historic + modern

historicmodern

Archaic

Primitive


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MODERN RELIGION and other stages of religion

The stages tend to accumulate:

primitive + archaic + historic + modern

Modern can reject earlier modes???

Better to draw upon them:

imagination of primitive

narratives and images of archaic

intellectual and mystical sophistication of historic


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MODERN RELIGION and other stages of religion

The stages tend to accumulate:

primitive + archaic + historic + modern

Modern can reject earlier modes???

Better to draw upon them:

imagination of primitive

narratives and images of archaic

intellectual & mystical sophistication of historic

Balanced by scientific understanding, secularity,

autonomy, and openness to development ?

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