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Successful Employment for People with Asperger’s Syndrome. Office of Public Instruction. Doug Doty, Statewide Coordinator Montana Autism Education Project ddoty@ mt.gov 459-5303 Marla Swanby Secondary Transition Specialist and Instructional Coordinator [email protected] 444-0044.

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Successful employment for people with asperger s syndrome

Successful Employment for People with Asperger’s Syndrome


Office of public instruction

Office of Public Instruction

Doug Doty, Statewide Coordinator

Montana Autism Education Project

[email protected]

459-5303

Marla Swanby

Secondary Transition Specialist and Instructional Coordinator

[email protected]

444-0044


Montana autism education project

Montana Autism Education Project

  • Training for schools and others

  • Consultations for schools

  • Autism Newsletter

  • Autism Blog


Secondary transition

Secondary Transition

  • Thing you do

  • Thing you do

  • Thing you do

  • Secondary Transition blog


Marla starts here

Marla starts here


Five autism spectrum disorders

Five Autism Spectrum Disorders


Asperger s disorder

Asperger’s Disorder

People with Asperger’s:

  • Have normal or above-normal intelligence;

  • Have good language skills;

  • May have difficulty with communication:

    • “Robotic” speech or loud talking

    • Focus on specific topics

    • Difficulty with abstract concepts – idioms.


Asperger s disorder1

Asperger’s Disorder

People with Asperger’s:

  • May seem socially awkward;

  • May have difficulty with rules that don’t “make sense,”;

  • May have difficulty with other people“breaking” rules – why did that person get to take a two-hour lunch?


Asperger s disorder2

Asperger’s Disorder

People with Asperger’s:

  • May make limited eye contact;

  • May not understand non-verbal social cues (lack of interest by others, body language, etc.)


How does asperger s affect employment

How does Asperger’s affect employment?

There is little quality research.

What follows are suggestions and considerations.


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How does Asperger’s affect employment?

Interviewing:

  • May need practice

  • Need to know how to answer “dumb” questions

  • May need to know to not, “over-sell” skills

  • Don’t speak poorly of past experiences


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How does Asperger’s affect employment?

Social Skills Difficulties:

  • “I *know* best.”

  • Reading body language

  • Letting others speak completely


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How does Asperger’s affect employment?

May not be a good fit for a person with Asperger’s to be in front-line, disgruntled customer service.

But . . .


How does asperger s affect employment4

How does Asperger’s affect employment?

People with ASD can be GREAT at customer support in jobs with:

  • Technical information – computers, Home Depot, Radio Shack.

  • Enthusiasts – bicycle shops, jewelry, fabric stores.


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How does Asperger’s affect employment?

To self-disclose or not self-disclose?

  • Coworkers who are informed are more likely to be understanding and accepting of differences.

  • “Asperger’s! Like that (character) on that (tv show or movie.)


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How does Asperger’s affect employment?

Social Skills:

May Need to teach the “unspoken rules”

  • Office politics/gossip

  • How to dress/not dress

  • Being bullied

  • Being taken advantage of

  • Who not to complain to

  • Break-time behavior


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How does Asperger’s affect employment?

Social Skills:

May Need to teach the “unspoken rules”

  • Inappropriate comments of actions

  • Repetitive behaviors

  • Who to ask for help


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How does Asperger’s affect employment?

  • Social Skills:

    • Need to provide scheduled and “on-demand” opportunity and person(s) from whom to get feedback on social performance.

    • Un-addressed problems can explode result in a blow-upinappropriate expression of anger.


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How does Asperger’s affect employment?

  • Social Skills may need to be taught.

  • Example: Why say, “Hello” to co-workers every day or when passing by?


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How does Asperger’s affect employment?

  • Social Stories by Carol Grey

    A scripted story for dealing with a specific problem which includes appropriate behavior(s).


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How does Asperger’s affect employment?

  • Social Story –

  • How to Accept Feedback:

    • My boss can tell me what to do.

    • Sometimes my boss tells me I have done a good job.

    • Sometimes my boss tells me I have made a mistake.

    • I feel frustrated when I make mistakes.

    • I am calm and respectful, to keep my job.


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How does Asperger’s affect employment?

Use concrete terms instead of idioms. For example say:

  • “Do XYZ.” rather than, “Finish it up.”

  • “That idea may not work because . . . “ rather than, “That dog won’t hunt.”

  • “That person may not be able to do what they promise.” rather than “All hat and no cattle.”


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How does Asperger’s affect employment?

Coworkers may use subtle, established physical or verbal cues for:

  • “You are speaking loudly.”

  • “Be aware of your personal distance.”

  • “The other person has lost interest.”

  • “Not now for this discussion.”


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How does Asperger’s affect employment?

Sensory Issues:

  • Light – Fluorescent hum/color

  • Sound – Noisy or sudden noises

  • Touch – Polyester uniforms

  • Smell – Strong or specific odors

  • Environment – Wet, spiders


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How does Asperger’s affect employment?

Time Management:

  • Obsessing over details

  • Not watching how much time spent on a single task

  • Need to know when to move to the next task

  • Schedules/timers can be helpful


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How does Asperger’s affect employment?

Time Management:

  • May need organizational system

  • May need prompts – electronic apps

  • Visual Supports – schedules/rules

  • Written schedules with timelines

    Be wary of requiring multi-tasking.


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How does Asperger’s affect employment?

Difficulty with change:

  • Priorities – “Now THIS is #1.”

  • Schedules – Holidays, new schedule

  • Routines/other – New TPS report procedure

  • Co-workers – leaving, new ones


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How does Asperger’s affect employment?

Difficulty with change – suggestions:

  • Tell as soon as possible, or . . .

  • Don’t tell until necessary (perserveration/fear)

  • Prepare –

    • Written description of change/Social Story

    • Practice new procedures


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How does Asperger’s affect employment?

People with Asperger’s may have difficulty learning tasks initially.

  • Read it.

  • See it.

  • Do it.

  • Say it. (maybe)

  • Teach it.

    (Consider video-modeling)


Resources

Resources

Asperger Job Assessment Questionnaire

Asperger’s On The Job – Rudy Simone

MAEP blog – Transition

OPI Secondary Transition blog


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