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Severn Vale Deanery

Severn Vale Deanery. Parish Treasurers Meeting November 2013 Welcome. This Presentation. 1. How we got to where we are. 2. Where that is. 3. What we can do about it. 4. Do something different. 1. How We Got Here. Middle Ages: Feudal lords built churches and retained priests

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  1. Severn Vale Deanery Parish Treasurers Meeting November 2013 Welcome

  2. This Presentation 1. How we got to where we are 2. Where that is 3. What we can do about it 4. Do something different

  3. 1. How We Got Here Middle Ages: • Feudal lords built churches and retained priests • Got income from their ‘living’ including Glebe • Their wellbeing varied, dependent on their lord • Many lived in considerable poverty • Before the Reformation churches paid tax to Rome • After the Reformation that went to the Crown

  4. 18th Century: • Queen Anne diverted this revenue into • “Queen Anne’s Bounty” • Fund applied to improve poor clergy’s incomeand repair the parsonages of small livings

  5. 19th Century: Parliament appointed ‘Commissioners’ 20th Century: • 1948 – The Church Commissioners • 1818 – Church Building Commissioners • Manage those historic assets • Invested in stock market shares and property • At end 2012 = £5.5 billion • 1836 – Ecclesiastical Commissioners • 1856 – Those Commissioners were combined Earlier losses recouped In 2010: • 18% of the Church’s total running costs: c£203m • Total costs = just over £1.2 billion • <£750 million came from us, the parishioners 20th Century: • 1948 – The Church Commissioners

  6. 20th Century: • 1948 – The Church Commissioners • Clergy pay (Stipend) standardised • Clergy entitled to retire at 65 (Going up to 68) • Clergy Pensions: • Until 1997 Church Commissioners met full cost • General Synod and Parliament agree to: • Cap responsibility to those before 31 Dec 1977 • New pension scheme after that date: • Funded by us, the parishioners via the ‘Quota’

  7. What was the – ‘The Quota’? • Every parish given a ‘Quota’ of the diocesan costs • Complex formulae used to calculate it, eg: • Number of people on the Electoral Roll + Relative wealth of the parish, etc

  8. Since 2004 – ‘Parish Share’ • Quota abolished & replaced by Parish Share • Calculated solely on the No. of Priests you have • ‘Mutual Support’ Introduced • The diocese no longer tells each parish • They only give a total for each Benefice • Each Benefice to share that between themselves • Each parish asked to offer what they can pay • Those that can, pay more to help those who can’t

  9. Using income from their historic funds, the Church Commissioners pay for (£m) 2010 2012 43 Cathedrals – Dean & 2 Chapter staff 8 9 Bishops – diocesan & suffragan 28 31 Clergy pensions up to 1997 114 120 Grants to poorest dioceses & to mission 47 42 Misc (Including Governance £2m) 6 8 203210 +3.5%

  10. The Diocese pays for: • Priests’ Stipends (Both parishes & ‘centre’) • Priests’ Costs (Housing, NI & pension contributions) • Training & Support (For all ministers) • ‘Centre’ Lay Staff (Salaries, NI, & pension contributions) • Diocesan Office Running Costs • Support to the Parishes

  11. Diocesan Base Costs 2010 £ Full-time priest 35,839 Housing, etc 10,035 Share of other costs 4,939 Each full-time priest50,813 Incl NI + Pension. Approx equal to a Head Teacher * Pro-rata House for duty (HfD) 16,938 Non-Stipendiary (NSM) 2,541 * Inflation at 3% per year gives: 2013 55,525 2014 57,190 2015 58,906

  12. Centre Support Costs Not the Problem The Problem? 2005 £1.5m 2012 £1.7m RPI +23% - 8% 2012 General Income £2.0m

  13. 2. Where We Are • Parish Share • Not something to be paid after all our other costs • A fundamental cost of running our church • It provides our priest’s stipend (‘Living’) • Modern Day Equivalent • Our PCC has replaced the ‘Feudal Lord’ as the one who retains a priest for our church

  14. Analysis • There are 43 dioceses in the C of E • Gloucester is in the top 10% of the wealthiest dioceses per head

  15. 13 14 15 16 17 18th 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 2627 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 Right Direction Analysis £9.27/week £12.1m Total Giving to PCCs 26 27 28 29 30 +33% 31st £6.95/week £9.1m 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 2006 2010

  16. 26th 27 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 Wrong Direction The Problem 19 20 21 22 23 24 25 2627 28 29 30 31 32 33 34 35 36 37 38 39 40 41 42 43 Giving to Parish Share £5.94/week £5.6m +3% in 6 years £5.77/week 57% 30% Lower 39th £5.94/week £5.6m 47% 40 41 42 43 2006 2012

  17. Wrong Direction Analysis Profit and Loss Regular Giving per Donor in 2012 National Average £7.02 p/w If replicated in Gloucester £6.6m • Newcastle (26th ranked) £6.82 p/w • If replicated in Gloucester £6.4m Gloucester (39th ranked) £5.94 p/w Gloucester donations £5.6m Plus other income £0.4m Total income £6.0m Less costs - £7.1m Deficit in 2012 £1.1m Deficit in 2010: £750,000 Deficit in 2011: £800,000

  18. Analysis Parish Share 2012: £5.6m If giving to Parish Share had increased as much as the total income to PCCs it would have been: £6.9m (Total costs £7.1m)

  19. 3. What can we do? i) Increase Income ii) Reduce Costs iii) Increase Membership iii) Increase Membership 4. Do Something Different

  20. i) Increase Income • 5 Year Plan (2010 – 2015) • Reduce dependence on Mutual Share • 5 Year Plan

  21. 5 Year Plan i) Increase Income • 5 Year Plan(2010 – 2015) • Reduce dependence on Mutual Share Inflation fixed at 3% for 5 yrs Set target per benefice for 5 yrs (‘Future’ Page of spreadsheet) For those benefices then paying >90% Make up to 100% over 3 years For those benefices then paying <90% Halve dependence on Mutual Support over 5 years* * Will need 30 Benefices to do this to achieve the desired effect • 5 Year Plan (2010 – 2015) • Reduce dependence on Mutual Share

  22. Parish Giving Scheme

  23. Parish Giving Scheme • Pay by Direct Debit to the diocese • The diocese collects Gift Aid from HMRC • Total paid to the parish within 10 days • Donors asked to include an annual automatic inflation increase • Donors asked to confirm before it’s applied, so they’re always in control • Many parishes report up to 30% increase

  24. Spread the Word Prepared by the Diocesan Communications Office The contents of this document may not be reproduced in whole or in part without the written permission of Gloucester DBF, Church House, College Green, Gloucester, GL1 2LY

  25. ii) Reduce CostsRe-organise & Loose Posts 89% of Parish Share goes in ministry costs Centre Parishes 2013 6 1 2014 8 4 2015 10 7

  26. If Parish Share doesn’t increase 89% of Parish Share goes in ministry costs Centre Parishes 2013 6 1 6 5 2014 8 4 8 12 2015 10 7 10 16

  27. iii) Increase Membership Journeying Together

  28. Sharing Christian Faith & Values Worships Together Provides a Visible Presence in Every Parish Serves the Wider World

  29. Applying it to the Parish Journeying Together Implementation Severn Vale Deanery

  30. Applying it to the Parish

  31. Providing a Visible Presence in Every Community & Parish • Every parish to be represented in the Local Ministry Team • Identify lay contact for each parish (Focus Minister) • Ensure all activities are effectively publicised to the wider community • Sharing our Christian Faith and Values • Promote personal discipleship through an appropriate learning programme • Make use of ‘Experience Church’ and ‘Experience Eucharist’ to engage members of the local community • Worshiping Together • As a united Benefice as well as in each parish • Promote ‘9 parish’ services more widely (5th Sunday) • Explore the provision of transport to all united services • Serving the Wider World • Explore a link with a church in an overseas link diocese • Develop a ‘Care Response’ programme for the Benefice Leadon Vale Parishes

  32. Fundraising Through Socials

  33. 4. Something Different EMEP

  34. EMEP – A Focus Leader in Every Parish Someone known in the parish and committed to working in a team • Who? • Priest (Full or part-time) • Reader • Local Ministry Team Member • Someone ‘Called out’ by the congregation

  35. Seed Change in Society We’ve Got We Need Changing Sundays • Church at different days/times Changing relationships • Church for different networks Changing cultures • Church in different styles Less faith knowledge • Church for beginners Religion to spirituality • Church for disconnected explorers

  36. New Scenario regular attendees (at least monthly) 10% non-churched 40% fringe (less than monthly) 10% open de-churched 20% closed de-churched 20%

  37. come ‘Attraction Model’

  38. go and then stay Emerging Model and see what arises (What’s God already doing there?) Bishop Graham Cray

  39. What is a Fresh Expression? Doing Something Different –A ‘Fresh Expression’ • A different form of church for our changing culture established primarily for the benefit of people who aren’t yet members of any church • It will come into being through principles of listening, service, outreach and the making of disciples • It will help us to grow existing congregations…. and to plant new ones

  40. Some Examples Messy Church – Everywhere!

  41. Some Examples Nightstop – Hereford

  42. Some Examples Sunday 4:6 – Rural Devon (Traditional Format)

  43. Some Examples Mind The Gap – Cell Church

  44. Some Examples Somewhere Else - Liverpool

  45. !!! Is Available Help Mission-Shaped Ministry • A national course available in Gloucester • Pioneer Ministers

  46. Summary 1. How we got here • Medieval lords built churches and retained priests • Led to the creation of a fund to subsidise poorer parishes, now administered by the Church Commissioners • For a time they gave us all a heavy subsidy towards the cost of running our church…. but no longer • ‘Parish Share’ only based on the number of priests we have • ‘Mutual Support’ allows for unexpected costs, enabling us to re-assess our part of the Share each year but…. • The Benefice overall still needs to pay the full cost

  47. Summary 2. Where we are? • Historic fund no longer enough to subsidise pensions and working priests, so… • Parish Share is not an option after our own costs, it’s now the only way to pay our priest’s stipend but…. • We’re currently not paying enough • Modern law means we can’t put priests into poverty so…. • Some priests are now being made redundant • We can expect this to lead to amalgamation of parishes or benefices

  48. Summary 3. What can we do? • Increase our income • Reduce our dependence on Mutual Share • Adopt the Parish Giving Scheme • Don’t just rely on members for income but use events like fundraising socials to build our fellowship and get income from others outside our regular congregation

  49. Summary 4. Do something different • ‘Journey Together’ to help each other • A Focus Leader in every parish to give ‘Effective Ministry’ • Investigate a ‘Fresh Expression’ to build our present congregation and/or plant a new one(s)

  50. Over to You and your PCC Any thoughts or ideas?

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