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SYSTEMATIC THEOLOGY. THEOLOGY PROPER. SENIORS… Ponder the following question and discuss with the people in your Tribond: Why do you believe God exists? What do you use as “proof” that there is a God?. SENIORS… Friday start-up

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systematic theology

SYSTEMATIC THEOLOGY

THEOLOGY PROPER

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SENIORS…

Ponder the following question and discuss with the people in your Tribond:

Why do you believe God exists?

What do you use as “proof”

that there is a God?

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Friday start-up

Rock/Paper/Scissors/Lizard/Spock to determine who opens the class in prayer.

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Why do you believe God exists?

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SENIORS…

Share with the people in your Tribond a personal experience that helped solidify your faith in God.

(share youngest to oldest)

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Begin with a positive argument!

Personal experience

God’s world

God’s Word

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SENIORS…

Ponder the following question and discuss with the people in your Tribond:

What are reasons people use to doubt God’s existence?

(try to think of at least 3)

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SENIORS…

Monday start-up

Pray with your Tribond 2-3 minutes– have the person with the longest last name pray first, the person with the shortest last name pray last

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Why do people doubt God’s existence?

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The top two responses…

  • I can’t see/hear/touch God (I only believe in the physical universe)
  • I can’t understand why God could or would allow pain, suffering, and evil
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3 responses…

Jesus

Thomas Aquinas

John Lynch

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SENIORS…

Review with the people in your Tribond the three positive ways to begin a discussion about God’s existence.

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SENIORS…

Tuesday start-up

Two pray Tuesday. In your Tribond have one person pray for the school and another pray for the country

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Begin with a positive argument!

Personal experience

God’s world

God’s Word

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WHAT IS THE EVIDENCE FOR GOD’S EXISTENCE?

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Traditional arguments for the existence of God:

  • Teleological Argument
  • Cosmological Argument
  • Ontological Argument
  • Moral Argument
  • Pascal’s “Wager”
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  • Teleological Argument

Gk. teleos: “end”, “purpose” or “goal”

The design, order and purpose of the universe is due to intelligence rather than chance

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William Paley’s watchmaker illustration

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SENIORS…

Without looking at your notes,

review with the people in your Tribond the Teleological argument for God’s existence.

Discuss whether or not you think this argument works.

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SENIORS…

Wednesday start-up

ePray. Tribond tweet a word of thanksgiving or praise to God.

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What is a syllogism?

A syllogism is a 3 step logical proof, comprised of 2 statements of fact (premises) and a conclusion based upon the two factual statements

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Teleological syllogism

Premise 1: If there is design, there must be a designer

Premise 2: The universe has highly complex design

Conclusion: The universe had a designer

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SENIORS…

Brainstorm with your Tribond other examples of design in the universe that were not shared yesterday- make a list of at least 5.

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SENIORS…

Thursday start-up

In your Tribond pray over the theme in your life.

“Fall into His story.”

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Psalm 19:1–2

The heavens are telling of the glory of God; And their expanse is declaring the work of His hands. Day to day pours forth speech, and night to night reveals knowledge.

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Psalm 19:1–2

The heavens are telling of the glory of God; And their expanse is declaring the work of His hands. Day to day pours forth speech, and night to night reveals knowledge.

The universe is noisy!

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Romans 1:20–21

For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.

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Romans 1:20–21

For since the creation of the world His invisible attributes, His eternal power and divine nature, have been clearly seen, being understood through what has been made, so that they are without excuse.

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SENIORS…

Work in your Tribond to find other Scripture passages that suggest design and order in the universe.

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The universe is either…

Infinite Finite

Eternal Temporal

Uncaused Caused

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  • Cosmological Argument

Gk. cosmos: “world” or “universe”

Every new thing or element of change must have a cause

(cause and effect)

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Kalam Cosmological syllogism

Premise 1: Whatever begins to exist has a cause

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Kalam Cosmological syllogism

Premise 1: Whatever begins to exist has a cause

Premise 2: The universe began to exist

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Kalam Cosmological syllogism

Premise 1: Whatever begins to exist has a cause

Premise 2: The universe began to exist

Conclusion: The universe has a cause

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Since this cause is responsible for bringing space and time into existence, this cause must be an uncaused, changeless, timeless, immaterial being

(sound like anyone you know?)

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SENIORS…

The objector might ask,

“If everything has a cause,

then who or what caused God?” Discuss your answer in your Tribond

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FIRST CAUSE?

FIRRST CAUSE

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SENIORS…

Create a KWL for “The Case of a Creator” DVD. Things you Know about the creator argument, things you Want to know, and a column for things you Learned while watching. Due end of the day Monday.

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Friday start-up

Rock/Paper/Scissors/Lizard/Spock to determine who opens the class in prayer.

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THE CASE FOR A CREATOR

1. How does the negative evidence of Darwinian evolution hinder the theory’s effectiveness in describing the origin of life? Why do you think this evidence is not as widely published as pro-Darwinian evidence?

2. Is it possible to be a scientist and “religious” at the same time? Can a Christian draw scientific conclusions in an unbiased way? Can an atheist? Why or why not?

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3. How does irreducible complexity in a cell potentially pose a problem for Darwinian evolution?

4. If Darwin were alive today, do you think he would continue to support his own theory? Why or why not?

5. If the evidence of science points toward a Creator, where does faith fit in? What is the relationship between faith and science?

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SENIORS…

Create a KWL for “The Case of a Creator” DVD. Things you Know about the creator argument, things you Want to know, and a column for things you Learned while watching. Due end of the day Monday.

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Monday start-up

Pray with your Tribond 2-3 minutes– have the person with the longest last name pray first, the person with the shortest last name pray last

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THE CASE FOR A CREATOR

3. How does irreducible complexity in a cell potentially pose a problem for Darwinian evolution?

4. If Darwin were alive today, do you think he would continue to support his own theory? Why or why not?

5. If the evidence of science points toward a Creator, where does faith fit in? What is the relationship between faith and science?

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The Case for a Creator review…

Discuss with your Tribond

your 3 favorite examples highlighted

in The Case for a Creator DVD that demonstrate the existence of God

(3 examples of design in the universe)

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Tuesday start-up

Two pray Tuesday. In your Tribond have one person pray for the school and another pray for the country

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“Let me tell you a story about a man named Anselm…”

Anselm of Canterbury (1033-1109) wanted to formulate an argument that everyone could comprehend and agree upon- this is what he came up with…

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  • Ontological Argument

Gk. on: “being, existing, essence”

The idea of God, the perfect Being, has always existed in the minds of human beings

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G.C.B.

Greatest

Conceivable

Being

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Syllogism

Premise 1: If it can be conceived, it must exist

WAIT A MINUTE!!!

WHAT ABOUT…

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The objection might be made that people have conceived of many things that do not exist, like a unicorn. The answer to this objection is that all of our conceptions do exist in reality one way or another and are never original.

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A unicorn is the concept of a horse and a horn, both of which exist separately in reality. God is a concept that exists in some capacity within our minds, so He must in some way be connected to reality.

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The point of the ontological argument is that it is impossible to conceive of something that does not exist in reality. People have no concept of non-existent entities. Our very conception of God proves that He exists.

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Ontological Syllogism

Premise 1: If it can be conceived, it must exist

Premise 2: The concept of God is universallyconceived

Conclusion: God must exist

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Romans 1:18-19

For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men who suppress the truth in unrighteousness, because that which is known about God is evident within them; for God made it evident to them.

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SENIORS…

Are there any possible weaknesses within the Ontological argument?

If so, what might they be?

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SENIORS…

Group 1 prepare. Everyone else get out your Bible and preview Psalm 19:1,2 at your desk.

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Wednesday start-up

ePray.

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SENIORS…

Review with the people at your table the three argument for God’s existence we have covered so far in class.

Discuss the pros and cons of each argument.

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Thursday start-up

In your Tribond pray over the theme in your life.

“Fall into His story.”

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Teleological syllogism

Premise 1: If there is design, there must be a designer

Premise 2: The universe has highly complex design

Conclusion: The universe had a designer

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Kalam Cosmological syllogism

Premise 1: Whatever begins to exist has a cause

Premise 2: The universe began to exist

Conclusion: The universe has a cause

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Ontological Syllogism

Premise 1: If it can be conceived, it must exist

Premise 2: The concept of God is universally conceived

Conclusion: God must exist

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In your Tribonds ask:

How do people learn the difference between right and wrong?

How might the issue of morality help demonstrate the existence of God?

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  • Murder hurts people
  • Therefore, murder is wrong
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  • Murder hurts people
  • Hurting people is wrong
  • Therefore, murder is wrong

Where do we get

this idea?

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  • Moral Argument

All people have a concept of right and wrong, a concept that must have come from something outside of them, a Moral Absolute

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All people have a conscience that reflects some sense of morality outside of themselves

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Non-theistic counterarguments to Morality:

  • Relativism- right and wrong is decided by the individual or society
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Non-theistic counterarguments to Morality:

  • Evolutionary Ethics- right and wrong is an expression of natural instincts that evolved to promote survival
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Non-theistic counterarguments to Morality:

  • Relativism- right and wrong is decided by the individual or society
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Problems with Relativism…

  • They are confusing truth claims with preference claims
  • No one can really live this way!
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Non-theistic counterarguments to Morality:

  • Evolutionary Ethics- right and wrong is an expression of natural instincts that evolved to promote survival
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Problems with EE…

  • This may describe moral behavior but it doesn’t prescribemoral behavior
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Moral laws do not

describe how we live,

they prescribe how we

should live

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Problems with EE…

  • This may describe moral behavior but it doesn’t prescribemoral behavior
  • This does not account for acts of selflessness (ex: helping an elderly person across the street)
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Romans 2:14–15

For when Gentiles who do not have the Law do instinctively the things of the Law, these, not having the Law, are a law to themselves, in that they show the work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them.

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Romans 2:14–15

For when Gentiles who do not have the Law do instinctively the things of the Law, these, not having the Law, are a law to themselves, in that they show the work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them.

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Romans 2:14–15

For when Gentiles who do not have the Law do instinctively the things of the Law, these, not having the Law, are a law to themselves, in that they show the work of the Law written in their hearts, their conscience bearing witness and their thoughts alternately accusing or else defending them.

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SENIORS…

Without looking it up, write down on a note card or half sheet; what you think Pascal’s Wager will be and place it in the bowl.

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SENIORS…

Friday start-up

Rock/Paper/Scissors/Lizard/Spock to determine who opens the class in prayer.

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  • Pascal’s “Wager”

If you say there is a God and there is not, there are no consequences

If you say there is not a God and there is, there will be drastic consequences

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Pascal’s “Wager”

God exists God does not exist

I believe in God I do not believe in God

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Pascal’s “Wager”

God exists God does not exist

I believe in God I do not believe in God

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Which argument do you find most persuasive?

Why?

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Describe a situation or type of person in which each argument would be most effective…

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Is something “good” because God commanded it

or

Does God command something because it is “good”?

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Syllogism (C.S. Lewis)

Premise 1: There must be a universal moral law, or else:

(a) all moral disagreements/criticisms would make no sense

(The Nazis were wrong)

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Syllogism (C.S. Lewis)

Premise 1: There must be a universal moral law, or else:

(b) it would be unnecessary to keep promises or treaties

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Syllogism (C.S. Lewis)

Premise 1: There must be a universal moral law, or else:

(c) mankind would not make excuses for breaking moral law

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Syllogism (C.S. Lewis)

Premise 2: A universal moral law requires a universal “Moral law-giver” who is interested in our moral behavior

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Syllogism (C.S. Lewis)

Premise 3: This universal “Moral law-giver” must be absolutely good, otherwise all moral effort would be futile since we would be sacrificing our lives for what is not ultimately right

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Syllogism (C.S. Lewis)

Conclusion: There must be an absolutely good “Moral law-giver”

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Jay Richards:

What is “fundamental reality”? What is that thing from which everything else derives? That is a worldview question- what is the thing that itself doesn’t need a cause for its existence?

Whatever is the “fundamental reality”, it must be something that has always existed!

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Jay Richards:

When discussing design, inquiring about the designer is just an attempt to change the subject- we can see design even if we cannot completely demonstrate where the designer came from.

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SENIORS…

Review with the people at your table the 5 arguments for God’s existence (teleological, cosmological, ontological, moral and Pascal’s wager)

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Monday start-up

Pray with your Tribond 2-3 minutes– have the person with the longest last name pray first, the person with the shortest last name pray last

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3 REASONS WE DON’T NEED SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD
  • Historical evidences strongly verify the existence, the teachings, and the miracles performed by Jesus.
  • Christian’s have been personal witnesses to the transforming power of trusting in Christ
  • Every semi-coherent ethical doctrine attempted apart from Christ uses His teachings
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3 REASONS WE DON’T NEED SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD

“Many people try to put off personal commitment to Christ by voicing the assumption that if you cannot prove something scientifically, it is not true or worthy of acceptance. Since one cannot prove scientifically the Deity of Jesus or the resurrection, the twentieth-century individual should know better than to accept Christ as savior or believe in the resurrection…” - Josh McDowell

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3 REASONS WE DON’T NEED SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD

Scientific Proof-

  • Controlled environment
  • Observations can be made
  • Data can be drawn
  • Hypothesis can be verified

Legal-historical proof-

  • Oral testimony
  • Written testimony
  • exhibts
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3 REASONS WE DON’T NEED SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD

…”that a few simple men should in one generation have invented so powerful and appealing a personality, so lofty an ethic, and so inspiring a vision of human brotherhood, would be a miracle far more incredible than any recorded in the Gospels. After two centuries of Higher Criticism the outlines of the life, character and teaching of Christ remain reasonably clear, and constitute fascinating feature in the history of Western Man.” - Will Durant

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3 REASONS WE DON’T NEED SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD

“There exists no document from the ancient world witnessed by so excellent a set of textual and historical testimonies, and offering so superb an array of historical data on which an intelligent decision may be made. An honest person cannot dismiss a source of this kind. Skepticism regarding historical credentials of Christianity is based upon an irrational bias.”

-Dr. Charles H. Pinnock

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3 REASONS WE DON’T NEED SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD

Christianity isn’t a To-Do List. We can’t manufacture our own transformation.

Our new identities have new desires. These desires are proclaimed in Scripture such as Romans 12:9-21. We only read them as commands when we can’t feel the desires. We can’t feel the desire when…

1.) Our flesh desires are too loud

2. )We have no new identity

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3 REASONS WE DON’T NEED SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD

“You shall love the Lord your God with all your heart and with all your soul and with all your mind. This is the greatest and first commandments. A second is like it, “You shall love your neighbor as yourself. On these two commandments depends all the Law and the Prophets.” - Jesus (Mt 22:37-40)

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3 REASONS WE DON’T NEED SCIENTIFIC PROOF OF GOD

“Given that Christ established the foundation of all attempts at godless ethic Himself 2000 years ago, given His philosophical conception of an unthinkable, unimaginable system by which to consult and lean on God through the Holy Spirit, given the continued experience of one of the most incredibly historically accurate testaments to His teachings and how to follow that ethic and given the witnessing that many people still are and continue to be miraculously transformed by Christ- trusting in Him, and who this simple carpenter of Nazareth claimed to be is not too difficult of a leap to make without scientific “proof” of the existence of God”. – Craig Chamberlain

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SENIORS…

Put all your gear in the front away from your Tribond. It’s a MVQ day!

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Wednesday start-up

ePray.

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Share with the people at your table an opportunity you had to defend or explain Christianity-

If you had to do it over again, what would you do differently?

What would you do the same?

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Thursday start-up

In your Tribond pray over the theme in your life.

“Fall into His story.”

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  • Thursday “pop-quiz”!
  • (everybody groan in unison)
  • (then realize it’s only worth a participation grade)
  • Define the teleological argument
  • 2. Define the cosmological argument
  • 3. Define the ontological argument
  • 4. Define the moral argument
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5. Romans 1:20 provides a biblical description of which argument?

6. Romans 2:14-15 provides a biblical description of which argument?

7. Romans 1:19 provides a biblical description of which argument?

8. Psalm 19:1-2 provides a biblical description of which argument?

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Put all your gear in the front away from your Tribond. It’s a Quiz day!

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Friday start-up

Rock/Paper/Scissors/Lizard/Spock to determine who opens the class in prayer.

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