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Make up Chart on Flip Chart. Flip Chart - Foundations. Bible Believer. Atheist. Morality - moral code Logic / Reasoning Uniformity in Nature (laws of nature) ------------------------------ ??? Foundation. Morality – moral code Logic / Reasoning Uniformity in Nature (laws of nature)

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  1. Make up Chart on Flip Chart

  2. Flip Chart - Foundations Bible Believer Atheist Morality - moral code Logic / Reasoning Uniformity in Nature (laws of nature) ------------------------------ ??? Foundation • Morality – moral code • Logic / Reasoning • Uniformity in Nature • (laws of nature) • ----------------------------------- • God • Foundation

  3. Thinking Outside the Box . . . . . . . . . Connect the dots above with only 4 straight lines… do not lift your pen from the paper until you are finished

  4. I IIIII There are 6 lines above… add another 7 lines to equal 9

  5. 1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 Concerning them that have died in Christ “fallen asleep” • 13 But I would not have you to be ignorant, brethren, concerning them which are asleep, that ye sorrow not, even as others which have no hope. • 14 For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so them also which sleep in Jesus will God bring with him. • 15 For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we which are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not prevent them which are asleep. • 16 For the Lord himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first: • 17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord. • 18 Wherefore comfort one another with these words.

  6. START • Class 1

  7. Hand Out Questions

  8. 2 Cor 10:3-5 • For though we walk in the flesh, we are not waging war according to the flesh. For the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh but have divine power to destroy strongholds. • We destroy arguments and every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God, and take every thought captive to obey Christ,

  9. Atheist Vs. Bible Believer Debate about “The Existence of God”

  10. Rules for the Debate.. • What are the written or unwritten rules for a debate? • What is Presupposed at the beginning of the debate, by the two opponents???

  11. “The Rules” • Argue for the Truth of the matter • Don’t Lie / Be Honest • Don’t Contradict yourself… • Be Rational – use good Reasoning – (Sound Logic) • Be Polite • Demonstrate how your opponent is Wrong and you are Right • Who’s world view can rationally account for these concepts?

  12. I would submit to you (and smarter people than myself have already figured this out) that the Bible Believer has already won the debate before a very word is spoken, because of the very existence of these concepts. • Even if the Bible Believer “loses the debate” by bad use of his own intellect, he has really won the debate because these conceptsmake perfect sense under his world view and these concepts have no foundation whatsoever in the Atheist's worldview.

  13. Isaiah 1:18 “Come now, and letusreason together, saith the LORD…”

  14. Reasoning in the Bible? Acts 17 •  1 Now when they had passed through Amphipolis and Apollonia, they came to Thessalonica, where was a synagogue of the Jews: •  2 And Paul, as his manner was, went in unto them, and three sabbath days reasoned with them out of the scriptures, • 3 Opening and alleging, that Christ must needs have suffered, and risen again from the dead; and that this Jesus, whom I preach unto you, is Christ. • 4 And some of them were persuaded and joined Paul and Silas, as did a great many of the devout Greeks and many of the leading women. • Paul argues w/ his fellow Jews that Jesus is the Messiah

  15. 2 Cor 10:3-5 3 For though we walk in the flesh, we are not waging war according to the flesh. • 4 For the weapons of our warfare are not of the flesh but have divine power to destroy strongholds. • 5 We destroy arguments and every lofty opinion raised against the knowledge of God, and take every thought captive, to obey Christ ESV

  16. “Strongholds” – Strong's Concordance # 794 • 1) a castle, stronghold, fortress • 2)anything on which one relies • a)of the arguments and reasonings by which a person endeavors to fortify his opinion and defend it against his opponent

  17. Titus 1:9 • 9 He must hold firm to the trustworthy word as taught, so that he may be able to give instruction in sound doctrine and also to rebuke those who contradict it.

  18. Acts 26:24-26 (New International Version) •  24 At this point Festus interrupted Paul’s defense. “You are out of your mind, Paul!” he shouted. “Your great learning is driving you insane.” • 25 “I am not insane, most excellent Festus,” Paul replied. “What I am saying is true and reasonable. • 26 The king is familiar with these things, and I can speak freely to him. I am convinced that none of this has escaped his notice, because it was not done in a corner. • What was not done in a corner?

  19. Why do this Study?

  20. Why do this study? This study will sharpen our Scriptural “Argumentation” We will be better able to refute those that contradict the word of God (with the intention of leading them to Christ) • The study of logical fallacies is especially useful when dealing with those that hold to the theory of Evolution, you will be better able to see not just what the Atheists are saying, but how they are saying it, and examine their statements / arguments to see if they make sense or have logical fallacies in them. You will then be able to point out their errors. • We will demonstrate how the Atheist's Worldview cannot rationally account for concepts such as: Absolute Morality, Laws of Logic, and the Uniformity of Nature and how the Christian Worldview does!

  21. Colossians 4:5-6. • Walk in wisdom toward them that are without, redeeming the time. Let your speech be always with grace, seasoned with salt, that ye may know how ye ought to answer every man.

  22. Eph 4:14 • That we henceforth be no more children, tossed to and fro, and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the sleight of men, and cunning craftiness, whereby they lie in wait to deceive.

  23. Logic / Reasoning • Logic is the Study of The Principles of Correct Reasoning (and also incorrect reasoning) • Have your ever asked yourself why a “Standard of Reasoning” would even exist in a Chance Universe? • (in the Atheist's Worldview?)

  24. What Logic is… • Logic It is about the chain of reasoning rather than the specific hard evidences used within the argument. • What conclusions can be reasonably inferred or deduced from accepted facts in an argument. • Example…Someone tells you they found a fossil of a dinosaur, and inside that fossil there was a fossil of a man… • You could conclude: Therefore I believe the Dinosaur ate the man… • Would that be a reasonable conclusion from that data? • Logic would be about examining the actualstatements themselves to see if they make sense or not, not the actual evidence (fossils.) That’s how Logic Works…

  25. Keywords: • Proposition • Argument • Premise (s) • Conclusion • Valid • Sound • Logical Fallacies

  26. Proposition • A Proposition is a group of statements that affirms or denies something and it is either true or false… • The proposition is the meaning of the sentence, not so much how the sentence is stated or written. • Example of Propositions: • The sky is overcast today • All horses are brown • The amount of stars in the universe is an even number

  27. Argument • An Argument is a group of Propositions where the truth of one is claimed to follow from the others. • The word “Argument” is not to be confused with a heated shouting match or fight, Not “Argumentative” –

  28. Not this…

  29. Arguing for the Truth

  30. Example of a Simple Argument • All Mammals have Kidneys <---- Premise #1 • All Dogs are Mammals <---- Premise #2 • Therefore, all Dogs have Kidneys Conclusion

  31. Example of an Error in an Argument • Some Mammals are Cats <---- Premise #1 T • All Dogs are Mammals <---- Premise #2 T • Therefore, some Dogs are Cats Conclusion F • Easy example of an error in the “chain of reasoning” – This is not a flowing argument because the conclusion is not sound.

  32. Valid / Validity • An argument is Valid if the Conclusion does follow from the Premise(s) • An argument is Invalid if the Conclusion does not follow from the Premise(s)

  33. Example of “Valid” • All Mammals are Reptiles < ---- Premise #1 F • All Dogs are Mammals < ---- Premise #2 T • Therefore, all dogs are Reptiles < ---Conclusion • This argument is Valid because it does follow from the Premises • However… • the Conclusion is false & therefore unreliable.The 1st premise is also false

  34. Valid Vs. Sound • Do not Equate “Valid” Arguments with “Sound” Arguments… they are very very different!

  35. Sound or Soundness • An argument is “Sound” ifall the premises are true and the conclusion is true and the conclusion flows from the premises. • If the argument is Unsound, than the conclusion is unreliable!

  36. Test Time…

  37. Is this Argument Valid – Is this Argument Sound? • All Mammals are Reptiles • All Dogs are Mammals • Therefore, all dogs are Reptiles • Valid? Y Sound? N • Remember Valid is not the same as Sound

  38. Is this Argument Valid – Is this Argument Sound? • All dogs are Cats Premise 1 f Some Cats are Chickens Premise 2 f Therefore, the sky is blue – Conclusion t • Valid? NSound? N • BUT: • The Conclusion by its self is True – • Be careful, even an invalid argument can have a true conclusion. Still the argument as a whole is incorrect.

  39. Is this Argument Valid – Is this Argument Sound? • All dogs are Mammals T • All Cats have Kidneys T • Therefore, the Sky is Blue T • Valid? N … why… bad chain of reasoning… • Sound N • But the all the propositions here are True

  40. Lets look at the Serpent’s Argument towards Eve

  41. NIV Version Gen 3 • 1 Now the serpent was more crafty than any of the wild animals the LORD God had made. He said to the woman, “Did God really say, ‘You must not eat from any tree in the garden’?”   • 2The woman said to the serpent, “We may eat fruit from the trees in the garden, • 3but God did say, ‘You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.’” • 4 “You will not certainly die,” the serpent said to the woman. • 5“For God knows that when you eat from it your eyes will be opened, and you will be like God, knowing good and evil.”

  42. 6And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. • 7And the eyes of them both were opened, and they knew that they were naked; and they sewed fig leaves together, and made themselves aprons.

  43. Serpents Question: Yea, hath God said, Ye shall not eat of every tree of the garden? • Eve’s Answer: 2And the woman said unto the serpent, We may eat of the fruit of the trees of the garden: • 3But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die. • Serpent makes an argument: • Ye shall not surely die < ---- Conclusion came 1st in his argument • For God doth know that in the day ye eat thereof, then shall your eyes be opened< ---- “Premise” #1 • And ye shall be as gods knowing good and evil < --- Premise #2 (not real premises by the way)…

  44. For God knows when you eat of it… • Your eyes will be open - Premise 1 • You will be like God - Premise 2 You will know the difference between Good & Evil - -Premise 3 • Therefore You will not Die - Conclusion • In other words what the Serpent was Arguing to Eve was this… Look Eve, How can you die, if when you eat that fruit, your eyes are open, you become like God – knowing Good from Evil?... You would have to be alive to experience all those things!!! Right?....

  45. Your eyes will be open - Premise 1 • You will be like God - Premise 2 You will know the difference between Good & Evil - Premise 3 • You will not Die - Conclusion • Make believe you are Eve… from her viewpoint: • Were the premises true or false (how could she know, unless she “experimented”) • Was the Serpents Conclusion Valid / Sound? V • Was the Serpents Argument Subtle? • Where is the error in the chain of reasoning?

  46. Eve Bought the Serpent’s Argument and then formed another argument in her mind…! • Saw that the tree was good for food T or F • Was pleasant to the eyes T or F • Tree to be desired to make one wise T or F • She ignored what God had said and decided to go with what the Serpent said and what her own senses were telling her…

  47. Suppose that Eve took a step back from the scenario she was in… and thought from a rational / logical position… • God Said: 17But of the tree of the knowledge of good and evil, thou shalt not eat of it: for in the day that thou eatestthereof thou shalt surely die Eve restates it: 3But of the fruit of the tree which is in the midst of the garden, God hath said, Ye shall not eat of it, neither shall ye touch it, lest ye die • (dying thou shalt die) Will Die • Serpent Said: • “You will not certainly die” Won’t Die

  48. What do we have here? • What is the Logical Term?

  49. “Contradiction” • A combination of statements, ideas, or features of a situation that are directly opposed to one another. • In this case: • God says you will die if you eat the fruit… • Serpent says you won’t die if you eat the fruit… • Definition of Die: “Dying thou shalt die”

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