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Legal ethics and professional responsibility cml1105g professor adam dodek

Legal Ethics and Professional Responsibility CML1105GProfessor Adam Dodek

Class 3 & 4

The Formation of the

Lawyer-Client Relationship


What are we going to do today this week
What are we going to do today/this week?

  • Defining Features of the Lawyer-Client Relationship

  • Overview of the Lawyer-Client Relationship

    • The Formation of the Lawyer-Client Relationship I:

      • Advertising and Solicitation

      • The Big Decision – Choice of Client and Access to Justice; Competency

  • Sign up for paper topics by end of day Wednesday

Legal Ethics, Feb. 8 & 9, 2011


The three historical cardinal sins of lawyering
The Three Historical Cardinal Sins of Lawyering

  • Maintenance – maintaining, supporting or promoting another person’s lawsuit (i.e. stirring up litigation)

  • Champerty– A specific form of maintenance wherein a lawyer pursues a party’s claim in consideration for receiving part of the judgment

  • Barratry – The offence of frequently exciting or stirring up groundless lawsuits

Legal Ethics, Feb. 8 & 9, 2011


Formation of the lawyer client relationship
Formation of the Lawyer-Client Relationship

  • Advertising, solicitation, choice of clients and accessibility of legal services

  • Professionalism v. Commercialism

  • CJO “Elements of Professionalism”

    • Scholarship, Integrity, honour, leadership, independence, pride, spirit, collegiality, service and balanced commercialism

  • Equality? Diversity? Multiculturalism? Recall Backhouse and Cairns-Way

Legal Ethics, Feb. 8 & 9, 2011


Competing concerns
Competing concerns

  • Idea of obligation to make legal services available

  • Market Norms

  • “Lawyers should make legal services available to the public in an efficient and convenient matter that will command respect and confidence, and by means that are compatible with the integrity, independence and effectiveness of the profession.” (CBA Code, c. XIV)

  • LSUC Rules, Rule 3.01 Making Legal Services Available

Legal Ethics, Feb. 8 & 9, 2011


What is advertising
What is Advertising?

  • “Marketing Legal Services”

  • “Marketing Activity”

  • LSUC Rule 3 Marketing Legal Services

    3.02 (1) In this Rule, "marketing" includes advertisements and other similar communications in various media as well as firm names (including trade names), letterhead, business cards and logos.

Legal Ethics, Feb. 8 & 9, 2011


Different types of advertisements
Different types of advertisements

  • Billboard

  • Yellow Pages

  • Print / newspapers / other publications

  • Websites

  • Lawyer Referral Services (Bar Association / Internet)

  • Radio / Television / YouTube

  • Infomercials – see www.taxamnesty.ca

  • Newsletters/Blogs

  • Lawyer Classified / Craigslist?

Legal Ethics, Feb. 8 & 9, 2011


Advertising
Advertising

  • Clash of paradigms: Promoting access to justice v. selling soap (commodification)

  • Promote consumer choice? Branding?

  • CBA Guiding Principles (GP), c. XIV (Text 130) / LSUC Rule 3

  • GP 8 – response to Jabour

  • How is someone who needs a lawyer going to find one?

  • Which lawyers advertise?

  • Who are the target groups or markets?

  • Clients – corporate, high, middle and low-income

  • Other lawyers – referrals; recruiting (or poaching)

  • Law schools, law students

  • Others?

Legal Ethics, Feb. 8 & 9, 2011


Advertising the good the bad and the ugly
Advertising: The Good, the Bad and the Ugly

  • What are the sources for ethical evaluation of lawyer advertising?

  • Rules – re advertising

  • Other rules – duties to other lawyers, to the profession, non-discrimination

  • LSUC Rule 3.02 (2)A lawyer may market legal services if the marketing

    (a) is demonstrably true, accurate and verifiable,

    (b) is neither misleading, confusing, or deceptive, nor likely to mislead, confuse or deceive, and

    (c) is in the best interests of the public and is consistent with a high standard of professionalism.

Legal Ethics, Feb. 8 & 9, 2011


Lsuc commentary on rule 3 02
LSUC Commentary on Rule 3.02

Examples of marketing that may contravene this rule include:

  • a. stating an amount of money that the lawyer has recovered for a client or referring to the lawyer's degree of success in past cases, unless such statement is accompanied by a further statement that past results are not necessarily indicative of future results and that the amount recovered and other litigation outcomes will vary according to the facts in individual cases;

  • b. suggesting qualitative superiority to other lawyers;

  • c. raising expectations unjustifiably;

  • d. suggesting or implying the lawyer is aggressive;

  • e. disparaging or demeaning other persons, groups, organizations or institutions;

  • f. taking advantage of a vulnerable person or group;

  • g. using testimonials or endorsements which contain emotional appeals.

Legal Ethics, Feb. 8 & 9, 2011


The evolution of advertising
The evolution (?) of Advertising . . .

  • Donald Jabour (1982)  Rocket (1990)

  • USA: Bates v. State Bar of Arizona (1977)

  • Jacoby & Meyers

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eQbsPH3jt3Q

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=88rsHIJ9J00&feature=related

    • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5bFyWAgY1w

Legal Ethics, Feb. 8 & 9, 2011


Lawyer idol round i personal injury
Lawyer Idol: Round I - Personal Injury

  • Toronto Slip and Fall (Bergel)

    http://www.bergellaw.com/slip-fall-personal-injury-claim.htm

  • Neinstein

  • http://www.neinstein.com/expertise/slip-and-fall

  • Personal Injury Lawyer Rap?

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBEWHy6khZw

  • Lowell “The Hammer” Stanley

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=62xreSr25uI&NR=1

Legal Ethics, Feb. 8 & 9, 2011


More personal injury
More Personal Injury

  • “For the People” http://www.forthepeople.com/settlements_auto_accidents.htm

  • The Bully Lawyer http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AlarMN5SCs4&NR=1

  • Recall Donald Jabour

Legal Ethics, Feb. 8 & 9, 2011


Round 2 north south battle
Round 2 – North-South Battle

  • Barrister Sonia Virk, Surrey, BC

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohNDq72kloo

  • “I Fix Problems”

  • http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=An0xB6pomp0&feature=related

  • “The choice of a lawyer is an important decision and should not be based solely upon advertisements. Gross amounts referenced are before fees and expenses. Past results afford no guarantees of future results. Every case is different and must be judged on its own merits. Co-counsel may be utilized depending upon the nature of the inquiry and jurisdiction.”

  • “Lock and Load” http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XOajzfDQbKU&NR=1

Legal Ethics, Feb. 8 & 9, 2011


Life is short get a divorce
Life is Short, Get a Divorce (?) (!!!)

  • Life is Short, Get a Divorce (Billboards) http://www.lifeshortgetadivorce.com/

  • http://www.fgalawfirm.com/index.html

  • Explanation http://www.fgalawfirm.com/articles/press.PDF

  • Interview http://video.msn.com/video.aspx/?mkt=en-us&brand=msnbc&fg=email&vid=61c06760-67a4-49a2-904b-c103e97491dc&from=00

  • SWAG - http://www.lifeshortgetadivorce.com/products.html

  • Recall Maintenance, Champetry & Barratry…

Legal Ethics, Feb. 8 & 9, 2011


Family law
Family Law . . .

  • Don’t Be a Weekend Parent

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BDRBH-GQ_fg&feature=related

  • Arguably the best lawyer in Toronto? http://www.irvingsolnik.com/?gclid=COGB7ZaF0JgCFQZinAod-wqzzw

  • DivorceEZ - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JXiJQVyLelM

  • Chopsticks?

    http://www.advertolog.com/divorce-lawyer/print-outdoor/chopsticks-11963705/

  • Business Card????

    http://www.advertolog.com/divorce-lawyer/print-outdoor/business-card-11089355/

Legal Ethics, Feb. 8 & 9, 2011


Classified and print ads
Classified and Print Ads

  • WAS HIShttp://2.bp.blogspot.com/_2oq2bSN-S9o/RjZ681OGbOI/AAAAAAAAACc/QxDvh9oH7rc/s1600-h/washis.jpg

  • Roar! https://mail.uottawa.ca/OWA/redir.aspx?C=c3a22be6f9304534b9f7800b709bae9d&URL=http%3a%2f%2fcdnlawyerinhouse.clbmedia.dgtlpub.com%2f2011%2f2011-02-28%2fhome.php%3fpage_view%3d8

  • Peter “P’Ta Mon” John, “The Thugs Lawyer”http://lawyerist.com/a-study-in-marketing-peter-pta-mon-john-the-thugs-lawyer/

Legal Ethics, Feb. 8 & 9, 2011



Criminal
Criminal

  • Yellow Pages

  • “Friends don’t let friends plead guilty”

    http://www.topgundui.com/video/player/41786-introduction

  • Top 10 Reasons

  • http://www.privatedefender4u.com/Do_You_Need_a_Lawyer.html

  • Canadian entrepreneurship

Legal Ethics, Feb. 8 & 9, 2011


Lawyer referral networks
Lawyer Referral Networks . . .

  • Hurt 911 - http://www.hurt911.org/

  • Lawyershop.ca http://www.lawyershop.ca/

  • Find a Lawyer http://www.findlawyerattorney.com/

  • Lawyerahead.ca - ? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bc0mnMbVL2Q&NR=1

  • LSUC Lawyer Referral Service http://www.lsuc.on.ca/public/a/faqs---lawyer-referral-service/

Legal Ethics, Feb. 8 & 9, 2011


What about law firm ads aimed at students public
What about Law Firm Ads aimed at students / public?

  • Osler Lawyer on a motorcycle?

  • Is it ethical for law firms to use models in their advertisements?

  • Faux diversity . . .? Misleading?

  • What are law firms trying to convey to you?

Legal Ethics, Feb. 8 & 9, 2011


Modern forms of advertising
Modern Forms of Advertising

  • Blogs / wikis / Facebook / YouTube / Other?

  • Should law societies be concerned about these?

  • Where are we going in the future of lawyer advertising?

Legal Ethics, Feb. 8 & 9, 2011


Solicitation
Solicitation

  • Specific form of advertising

  • Maintenance/Barratry

  • Competing concerns:

    • Making people aware of their rights who might not otherwise act upon them v. taking advantage of vulnerable

    • Frivolous litigation v. social change (NAACP)

  • LSS v. Merchant (135-146)

  • Compare penalty to Jabour

  • Notes and Questions pp. 146-47

Legal Ethics, Feb. 8 & 9, 2011


Different forms of solicitation
Different Forms of Solicitation

  • In-person (“The Ambulance Chaser”)

  • Letter

  • Direct e-mail (spam?)

  • Pop-ups

Legal Ethics, Feb. 8 & 9, 2011


Self promotion
Self-Promotion

  • Lawyers in the Media / Talking Heads etc.

  • Competing considerations

Legal Ethics, Feb. 8 & 9, 2011


The lawyer client relationship
The Lawyer Client Relationship

  • Formation of the Lawyer-Client Relationship

    • Advertising

    • Solicitation

    • Choice of Client

    • Accessibility of Legal Services

  • Competency – Are you up for the job?

Legal Ethics, Feb. 8 & 9, 2011


Moral non accountability or taking it personally
Moral Non-Accountability or “Taking it Personally”?

  • Thank You for Smoking

  • What are the parallels between a lobbyist for big tobacco and lawyers?

  • “Moral flexibility” – idea that to be a lawyer you need to subordinate your morals / your everyday morality in order to advance the interests of a client?

Legal Ethics, Feb. 8 & 9, 2011


Ethical crossroads in your career
Ethical Crossroads in your Career

  • Choice of Client . . .

  • What to do when a client wants you do something that may not be illegal or improper but makes you uneasy or you think is unethical or immoral?

  • What do when a partner asks you do something . . .?

  • Choice of job is the single most important ethical decision you will make in your career

  • What field are you going to work in?

  • What firm/organization/etc are you going to work for?

  • Everyone is entitled to a lawyer…but no one is entitled to you as a lawyer.

  • What sort of lawyer are you going to be?

Legal Ethics, Feb. 8 & 9, 2011


Choice of client
Choice of Client

  • Moral non-accountability v. taking it personally

  • Moral non-accountability - emphasizes structure/procedure

  • Lawyer as the guide through the maze of the justice system

  • Lawyer is the advocate not the judge

  • Social good that promotes the fair administration of justice

  • Moral Accountability / Taking it Personally

  • Law is an instrument of power

  • Costs and benefits to choices made in legal practice

  • Lawyers need to take responsibility for their choice of clients and for the strategies they deploy

Legal Ethics, Feb. 8 & 9, 2011


Moral non accountability
Moral (non-) Accountability

  • Edward Greenspan, Greenspan: The Case for the Defence (non-accountability)

  • Allan Hutchinson / Trevor Farrow (accountability)

  • Michel Proulx & David Layton (text 165)

    • Some discretion

    • Severe personal distaste

  • Hutchinson’s version of “the Talk” (166)

  • Group Discussion: Hutchinson v. Proulx & Layton

  • Discussion: Notes and Questions 167

Legal Ethics, Feb. 8 & 9, 2011


Client selection discrimination
Client selection / discrimination

  • Discussion question – Text 168

  • Permissible v. Prohibited Discrimination (Discrimination v. discrimination)

  • “source of income”

  • Lawyers advertising – what sorts of client selection / discrimination do you think they employ?

  • Question 1 – page 169 – what is the effect of chapter 20?

  • Group work: Scenarios 1-2, 3-4, 5-6

Legal Ethics, Feb. 8 & 9, 2011


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