M-σ. M-σ. Predicted in 1998-1999 based on self-regulated BH growth M ~ σ 5 (Silk & Rees) M ~ σ 4 (Fabian). Discovery of M-σ. Ferrarese & Merritt (2000) Gebhardt et al. (2000). Discovery of M-σ. Ferrarese & Merritt (2000) Gebhardt et al. (2000). What about AGNs ?.
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M-L predicts very massive BH in BCGs but sigma values are typical of other large ellipticals