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The infamous landing obligation. Expected effects on crew and Safety of a Landing Obligation A Dutch Mixed Fisheries Point of View Sectorraad Visserij Symposium IJmuiden 3 October 2013 Pim Visser, chief executive VisNed. Fifteen minutes after sleep information!.

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The infamous landing obligation

The infamous landing obligation

Expectedeffects on crew and

Safety of a Landing Obligation

A Dutch Mixed Fisheries Point of View

Sectorraad Visserij Symposium IJmuiden

3 October 2013

Pim Visser, chief executive VisNed

Sectorraad Safety in Sea Fisheries Symposium, IJmuiden, 3 October 2013


Fifteen minutes after sleep information

Fifteen minutes after sleep information!

My first challenge is topreventyoufromdozing off after a sleep professor!

And get a criticalpositivemessageacross

Sectorraad Safety in Seafisheries Symposium

3 Oktober 2013

Pim Visser, chief executive VisNed

Sectorraad Safety in Sea Fisheries Symposium, IJmuiden, 3 October 2013


What can we learn from these danish and dutch trains

What can we learn from these Danish and Dutch trains?

Sectorraad Safety in Sea Fisheries Symposium, IJmuiden, 3 October 2013


They are supposed to run but they don t

They are supposed to run but they don’t

  • Someclippings:

    • Ambitiouslydesigned

    • Procuredaccordingto the rules

    • Full of non proven techniques

    • Politicsloadedwithhindsightknowledge

    • Opinions of experiencedrailwaypeoplepolitely ‘ignored

    • Hundreds of millions €urosspent

  • Becausethey are not fit for purpose

Sectorraad Safety in Sea Fisheries Symposium, IJmuiden, 3 October 2013


About visned

About VisNed

National Association of Producer Organisations in Dutch DemersalFisheries.

Majority of NL flatfishandbrownshrimp landings

Fishermen with a future

Sectorraad Safety in Sea Fisheries Symposium, IJmuiden, 3 October 2013


Visned s mission

VisNed’s mission

  • Stable Conditions

  • Sustainable Operations

  • PredictableCostsand Returns

    Fishermen with a future

Sectorraad Safety in Sea Fisheries Symposium, IJmuiden, 3 October 2013


Changed circumstances

Changed circumstances

  • Natura 2000 at Sea

  • European Maritime Framework Directive

  • MSC certification

  • Innovativegeardevelopments

  • Labour legislation

    • Participation in Sectorraad

Sectorraad Safety in Sea Fisheries Symposium, IJmuiden, 3 October 2013


Small scale brown shrimp fisheries

Small scale brown shrimp fisheries

Sectorraad Safety in Sea Fisheries Symposium, IJmuiden, 3 October 2013


Traditional beamtrawl with tickler chains

Traditional beamtrawl with tickler chains

Sectorraad Safety in Sea Fisheries Symposium, IJmuiden, 3 October 2013


Low impact beam trawl with pulse gear

Low impact beam trawl with pulse gear

Sectorraad Safety in Sea Fisheries Symposium, IJmuiden, 3 October 2013


Twin rigged otter trawl

Twin rigged otter trawl

Sectorraad Safety in Sea Fisheries Symposium, IJmuiden, 3 October 2013


Scottish seine net or fly shoot

Scottish seine net or fly shoot

Sectorraad Safety in Sea Fisheries Symposium, IJmuiden, 3 October 2013


Traditional fishing areas

Traditional Fishing Areas

Sectorraad Safety in Sea Fisheries Symposium, IJmuiden, 3 October 2013


A lesson from management disaster to co management

A lesson: From Management disaster to co-management

  • Top down approach with Individual Quota

  • Wish from IQ to ITQ repressed by government

    • By pass lead to legalisation

    • Lawlessness got out of hand

    • Grey fish circuit developed into perfection

  • Industry and Government in a complete deadlock

    • Jointly developed co management as answer

    • Successful since 1993

    • Compliance is the norm

Sectorraad Safety in Sea Fisheries Symposium, IJmuiden, 3 October 2013


Cfp has brought us in holland good and bad

CFP has brought us (in Holland)good and bad

  • Good

    • Improved Fisheries Management in joint Sea Basins

    • Internationalisation of fisheries and RAC’s

    • Fleet capacity managed

  • Bad

    • Micro management

      • leading to discards

      • leading to rigor mortis instead of flexibility

    • Broad brush approach is never specific

    • Attitude of Euro conformity of our Member State

Sectorraad Safety in Sea Fisheries Symposium, IJmuiden, 3 October 2013


Fishing pressure has also plumeted with us

Fishing pressure has also plumeted with us

Sectorraad Safety in Sea Fisheries Symposium, IJmuiden, 3 October 2013


Industry back to the level of the mid 60 s

Industry back to the level of the mid 60’s

  • With less than half the vessles

  • With less than half the employment

  • With estimated average age of crew 10 years plus

  • With education levels of crews increased

  • With crew earnings down

    • Lower price

    • Higher vessel costs

    • Higher personal pension and insurance costs

    • Wage difference with shore jobs reduced

    • Other maritime sectors want fishermen as crew

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Call for a discards ban

Call for a discards ban

  • As a way out of micro management creatingdiscards

    • Fisherman do not want tothrowawaymarketablefish

  • Prime attention: bycelebritiesandNGO’swith media propaganda

    • ‘Power to the people’ bypushing the ‘like’ buttons?!?

    • Simplification of slogans withdangerouspopulism

      • Lobby fundedbywealthy US well doers

      • Blanket approach: cosy, warm andsimple

      • Looking at problemsfroman ‘aviatorsperspective’

      • Like a bad Heineken: Muchfroth far less content

      • EP influence on decisionprocessenormous

  • Will the baby flush out with the bath water afterimplmenting?

    • A micro manageddiscards ban is looming over the horizon

    • Fishermen are scaredthiswillmean the end of theirfleet

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Discards ban from tool to purpose in it self

Discards ban from tool to purpose in it self

  • At NSRAC Vigo 2008 we proposed a landing obiligation for cod

    • Member states were opposed (too far out of the box)

    • Commission considered it ‘daring’ but backed off

    • NGO’s did not comprehend

    • Colleagues were against because of practicalities

  • We thougt it could be a useful tool

    • But so is a knife

      • both in the hands of a surgeon and of a murderer

  • In the public publicity domain

    • Simplified slogans seemingly not interested in practicalities

    • Industry proposals politely sabotaged

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Reasons for returning our by catch to the sea

Reasons for returning our by-catch to the sea

  • Rules

    • Catch composiiton

    • Quota distribution

  • Solving these self created probems will reduce unwanted catches

  • Mixed fisheries techniques

    • Paper vs Cardboard

      • Sole allows a maximum mesh size of 80 mm

      • Plaice and others require a minimum mesh size of 120 mm

  • Solving this equasion will reduce unwanted by catches!

    • Slectivity and survivability are the unknowns

Sectorraad Safety in Sea Fisheries Symposium, IJmuiden, 3 October 2013


Quota aspects

Quota aspects

  • Dutch Senior Government official:

    • This measure shall not reduce fleet’s possibilities to fish

  • How do we get from landing to catch quota

    • TAC must therefore be = Removals

  • Increase according to relative stability based on landing quota

    • High discards fisheries have a disadvantage

  • TAC setting depends on EU Norway negotiations

  • Associated species are returned because of too low TAC

    • Unavoidable catch, ‘the things happen to swim’

    • Low value fish will become Choke species

      • Required Dab landing quota six-fold of today’s

Sectorraad Safety in Sea Fisheries Symposium, IJmuiden, 3 October 2013


Logistics and costs

Logistics and costs

  • Size of fishhold becomes limiting factor

    • Over filling is a safety hazard

  • Will modern efficient handling(mincing and pumping)be allowed?

  • Extra foreign (non EU) crews

    • No cabin space, shared cabins/bunks

    • At least 30% increase in crewing> dilluting share wages

    • Expensive quota must now be used to land no value fish

  • Who secures investments in portside buffer storage?

  • Don’t ‘bring good money to evil causes’

  • Net cost Dutch demersal fleet > € 15.000.000 per annum

  • Viability of the industry is at stake

Sectorraad Safety in Sea Fisheries Symposium, IJmuiden, 3 October 2013


Compliance and control

Compliance and control

  • Poor people are less likely to comply

    • Low wages fertilize corruption

    • Crews do not want their wages diluted

    • Owners can not bear extra costs without benefits

    • Expensive quota will be insufficient, choke species will occur

  • CCTV control is technically impossible

    • Technical problems and checking of images

    • Full time observers are not available and far too expensive

  • Success builds upon Joint responsibility and Self Control

    • Acceptance is condition sine qua non

    • Do not rely on repressive ‘Istanbulian solutions’

    • Rather offer a carrot instead of a stick

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The infamous landing obligation

What nextAnd now

Carry onTurn away

Make impossibilities possible

Don’t cryBe courageous

Throw the problems over the fence

Throw them back

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So what is next on our landing obligation to do list

So what is next on our landing obligation to do list

  • Avoid, MinimiseIncentivise

  • Get practical fishermen on board

    • Notonly the skippers

  • Select andrewardearly adapters

    • Alter fishingpatternstoreducediscards

    • Increaseselectivity of 80 mm fishery

    • Incentivise for resultsbased approach

  • Do not (threatento) make a repression plan yet

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We require policy makers and working parties to

We require policy makers and working parties to

  • Steerawayfrom the icon function(pleasecome back toreality)

  • Steerawayfrom a goal in itself(keep yourpurpose in mind)

  • Useyourimaginationtogive small fish a chance

    • Steertowardsincreasedselectivtyand survival rates

    • Steertowards maximum sustainablemethods

    • Fish belongs in the sea or on a plate

Sectorraad Safety in Sea Fisheries Symposium, IJmuiden, 3 October 2013


Increase selectivity and survival rates

Increase selectivity and survival rates

  • Out of the box program to increase selectivity

    • No detailed technical measure restrictions

    • Full steam ahead

    • Involved fishermen are highly motivated

  • Any catch with (a degree) of survivability may return to sea

    • Same as in Norway

    • Our tests are complex but we are motivated

    • Must be proven and do we have enough time?

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Resulting in a dream or a self fulfilling prohecy

Resulting in a dream or a self fulfilling prohecy

  • Huge leep forward in sustainability

    • Improved selectivity

    • Improved survival

  • Will keep us in the forefront of compliance

  • Increased societal acceptance

  • Proud fishermen

  • Proud politicians

  • Satisfied civil servants

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A long and winding road ahead

A long and winding road ahead

Using common sense at implementationwill lead to happy workersandincreasedsafety!

My Dutch Mixed FisheriesConviction!

Sectorraad Visserij Symposium IJmuiden

3 October 2013

Pim Visser, chief executive VisNed

Sectorraad Safety in Sea Fisheries Symposium, IJmuiden, 3 October 2013


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