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Phase II Small MS4 General Permit. “What we have learned, where we are going”. Christine Sotelo Municipal Storm Water Unit State Water Resources Control Board 916.322.1400 [email protected] Presentation Overview. Phase II Statistics/Background Info

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Phase II Small MS4

General Permit

“What we have learned, where we are going”

Christine Sotelo

Municipal Storm Water Unit

State Water Resources Control Board

916.322.1400

[email protected]


Presentation overview
Presentation Overview

  • Phase II Statistics/Background Info

  • State Water Board Permitting Approach

  • Challenges

  • Overall Continued Approach

  • Possible New Permit Components


Overview of California

250 entities designated


North Coast Water Board

13 permitted entities


San Francisco Water Board

30 permitted entities


Central Coast Water Board

  • 110 designated entities

  • 102 awaiting

    permit coverage

  • 8 permitted entities


Central Valley Water Board

  • 85 permitted entities

  • 4 awaiting coverage


Lahontan Water Board

4 permitted entities


Colorado River Water Board

6 designated entities

without permit coverage


Overview of California

  • Los Angeles and Santa Ana Water Boards

    • Cities/Counties covered under Phase I

  • San Diego Water Board -

    • 0 designations


Overview of California

250 entities designated


Stakeholder CollaborationWhat is it?

  • Information sharing

  • Meetings

    • Two-party / Multi-party

    • Facilitated / Non-Facilitated


Stakeholder Collaboration“Why”

  • Phase II Issues not monolithic

  • Stakeholders interests vary

  • Prevent petitioned permit

  • Assist in developing preliminary draft


Stakeholder CollaborationMakes Sense

  • Benefits all parties

    • Fosters trust, information sharing and communication

    • Fair structure

    • Offers strategy if permit contested

    • Builds foundation

    • Produces sustainable, stable agreements


Stakeholder CollaborationChallenges

  • Short time schedule

  • Permit expires - April 2008


Stakeholder CollaborationCurrent Details

  • Interviewed Regional Water Boards (ongoing)

  • Two-party meetings

    • CASQA/Water Board Issue Teams

    • NGOs/Water Board

    • Multi-party meetings


Tentative Timeline

Late February Release Preliminary Draft

March Two public workshops to discuss draft

April Release a Draft Permit

May Begin 60 day public comment period

June Two public workshops

July/August Adopt Permit


Draft General Permit Administrative Challenges

  • Report of waste discharge requirements

    • NOI, Fee, new SWMP

  • Staggered designations

    • Recently submitted SWMPs

  • Regional Water Board must review and approve all 250 SWMPs


Draft General PermitOverall Approach

  • Non-prescriptive - allows flexibility

  • Continue six MCMs

  • New permit - no relaxation of programs

  • Continue BMP measurable goals:

    • Allowed achievement within permit term

    • Within 5 years of designation

  • Compliance with TMDLs

  • Clarity language and concepts


Possible New Components

  • Program Management MCM

    • Farmed out staff

    • Budget

    • Consistency (other departments, training)

    • Ensure overall compliance

  • Program effectiveness assessment

    • Current permit - weak language

    • Integrate CASQAs manual


Possible New Components

Possible New Permit Components

  • Integrate Hydromodification/LID principles into MCM

    • Sustainability - Board core value

  • Industrial/Commercial Inspection program into MCM

    • Current permit - “may” include inspection program into MCM

    • Tetra tech audits/inspections

  • Integrate Hydromodification/LID principles into MCM

  • Integrate Industrial/Commercial Inspection Program into MCM

  • Water Quality Monitoring

  • Integrate CASQA Program Effectiveness Guidance manual


Possible New Components

  • Water Quality Assessments

    • Ultimately programs must assess effectiveness of the overall program

    • Difficult and expensive

    • Possibly require answers to “Water Quality Assessment questions”

      • Purpose

      • Type of data needed

      • Appropriate assessment method


Contact Information

Christine Sotelo

Municipal Storm Water Unit

State Water Resources Control Board

916.322.1400

[email protected]


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