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What if we educated doctors this way?. John Gardner, PhD, PE Professor of Mechanical & Biomedical Engineering Associate Vice President Boise State University. Faculty Meeting in a Medical School. How can we define the “Ideal Doctor”. Survey people Ask Hospital Administrators

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What if we educated doctors this way

What if we educated doctors this way?

John Gardner, PhD, PE

Professor of Mechanical & Biomedical Engineering

Associate Vice President

Boise State University


Faculty meeting in a medical school

Faculty Meeting in a Medical School


How can we define the ideal doctor

How can we define the “Ideal Doctor”

  • Survey people

  • Ask Hospital Administrators

  • Ask Health Insurance Managers

  • Ask CEO’s of large medical care groups like St. Al’s


Some likely features

Some likely features

  • Good understanding of the bottom line

  • Good employees

  • Understand the big picture

  • Have an understanding of accounting and finance issues


Abet engineering accreditation criteria

ABET Engineering Accreditation Criteria

  • Criterion 2. Program Educational Objectives

  • (a) published educational objectives that are consistent with the mission of the institution and these criteria

  • (b) a process that periodically documents and demonstrates that the objectives are based on the needs of the program's various constituencies


But who are our constituencies

But who are our Constituencies?


What s the fundamental tenet of medical ethics

What’s the fundamental tenet of medical ethics?

  • Primum non nocere

  • First, do no harm


What s the fundamental tentet of engineering ethics

What’s the fundamental tentet of engineering ethics?

  • Hold paramount the safety, health and welfare of the public


Where s the public

Where’s the public?


What does it mean

What does it mean…

  • To hold paramount public safety

    • … while being a good employee ?


Engineering enrollments

Engineering Enrollments

  • (A) Not enough engineers

  • (B) Not enough minorities

  • (C) Not enough women


Same time different profession

Same time, different profession…

  • Source: Association of American Medical Colleges


And from the lawyers

And from the lawyers…


Ap course participation

AP Course Participation

Figure F. Percent of public high school graduates of 2000 who had

taken various mathematics and science courses in high school,

by sex: 2000


What if we educated doctors this way

  • Source: Engineering Trends (www.engtrends.com)


What if

What if…

  • What if we truly embraced our code of ethics?

  • What if we truly “Hold paramount the safety, health and welfare of the public”?

  • What if we designed our curriculum and programs around that central theme?

  • What if we taught engineering students to solve Problems with a capital “P” instead of teaching them to design widgets?


What if we educated engineers that way

What if we educated engineers that way?


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